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[trojanfan12]

Rodgers sat for his first 3 years so he's really like 34 instead of 37.....LOL.

lol

No quite how it works, but I get your point.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

3 years with Rodgers is better than the next 10 years with Mayfield.

Disagree

It's possible time may prove me wrong but I'd rather the Browns take the risk on Baker.

The other side to it is the ESPN proposal had a big cache of picks attached to the trade also. Big LOL.

 

[DJ Fieri]

lol

No quite how it works, but I get your point.

He didn't get hit much those first 3 years.....

 

[DJ Fieri]

These Russell Stover sugar free chocolate caramels are the shit!!!

 

[Stakesarehigh]

I'd trade Carr and some picks in a nano second for Rodgers and Carr had a better season than Mayfield but a worse defense (reason they finished 8-8 and Browns didn't).

Carr, 67.3%, 256.4ypg, 7.9ypa, 27 TD's, 9 INT's, 101.4 PR

Mayfeidl, 62.8%, 222.7ypg, 7.3ypa, 26 TD's, 8 INT's, 95.9 PR

The difference in defenses was negligible. The Browns had a better run game and kept opposing teams off the field.

If Baker was 30 like Carr is this would be an appropriate comparison. But he isnt.

 

[DJ Fieri]

The difference in defenses was negligible. The Browns had a better run game and kept opposing teams off the field.

If Baker was 30 like Carr is this would be an appropriate comparison. But he isnt.

No, it's not. LOL. The Browns had a better defense.

Carr has several good seasons under his belt.....Mayfield broke out this past season but can certainly regress.....

 

[DJ Fieri]

30 is hardly over the hill....LOL.

 

[trojanfan12]

He didn't get hit much those first 3 years.....

Agree. But you lose a certain amount of athleticism, stamina, recovery, etc. as you age, regardless of how many times you've been hit.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

30 is hardly over the hill....LOL.

7 nfl seasons to 3 is the point.

 

[DJ Fieri]

7 nfl seasons to 3 is the point.

And the point is Mayfied had 1 good season where he broke out.....he can still regress.....last season could have been an aberration. Carr has proven over 7 years to be a top 10-12 QB.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

And the point is Mayfied had 1 good season where he broke out.....he can still regress.....last season could have been an aberration. Carr has proven over 7 years to be a top 10-12 QB.

Baker had 1 good season? He set the record for rookie TD passes lol

 

[DJ Fieri]

Baker had 1 good season? He set the record for rookie TD passes lol

Under a 2-1 TD to INT ratio, not good. Um......and a 6-7 record. under .500, not good.

He had his best season this past one.

 

[DJ Fieri]

Baker had 1 good season? He set the record for rookie TD passes lol

We can agree to disagree.....you're good people.

 

[Wamu]

And the point is Mayfied had 1 good season where he broke out.....he can still regress.....last season could have been an aberration. Carr has proven over 7 years to be a top 10-12 QB.

Since you're picking on my team. Here are some of Carr's numbers.

47-63 as a starter. One winning season ('16). One .500 season (2020). 5 losing seasons. Good TD to int ratio (170-71) but has 63 fumbles (led the league 2x) '20 & '18.

 

[DJ Fieri]

Since you're picking on my team. Here are some of Carr's numbers.

47-63 as a starter. One winning season ('16). One .500 season (2020). 5 losing seasons. Good TD to int ratio (170-71) but has 63 fumbles (led the league 2x) '20 & '18.

Defense. Or lack thereof.....end of discussion.

 

[dtgold88]

Rodgers shows no signs of slowing down. TB shows QB's nowadays (with the QB friendly rules) can play into their 40's.

Mayfield can regress, he had a good season, but based on his history it's no lock he's turned the corner.

OK....but even at his best AR only has 1 title. His D gave him excellent field position 4 times in the NFCCG needing a score and he couldn't get it done. No lock he gets another chance and could certainly retire in 2-3 years.

Baker regressed once in his life that I know of and it was with arguably the worst coach ever in the NFL. Kid was the #1 QB in entire league 2nd half of last season per PFF. Possible he regresses? Sure. But I'll take 10-15 years of him vs. 2-3 of AR.

 

[dtgold88]

However, you also have Baker who is just about to get his first big extension and hasn't really proven to be championship caliber yet vs Rodgers coming off an MVP season with at least a few more left at his prime. Do you take the a few years of the sure thing over a player that could just be Andy Dalton level if he doesn't continue to improve? That roster is pretty well primed; an MVP QB season could put them right there with the Chiefs.

Tough call, and it really depends on the level of confidence in Mayfield (and if ARod is even interested in Cleveland). As a Bills fan I really like Josh, but could they pass up the opportunity to get Rodgers?

a few more left at his prime? At 37? Stopped reading after that.

 

[dtgold88]

Would you have said the same thing when Brady was 37, without knowing his future?

So because Brady and Brees did it (who didn't really use their legs) it must mean Rodgers can play well into his 40s (and Rodgers is at best when he can use his legs some)?

And, no, I would not have said same of Brady. Also would have thought LBJ would slow down more than he had by now. Doesn't mean others will do the same as they age.

 

[Wamu]

Defense. Or lack thereof.....end of discussion.

So the defense is why he fumbled all those time. Makes sense. My bad for questioning.

 

[dtgold88]

Rivers retired
Ben a year away
Eli retired
Peyton retired at 39

39 is the real breaking point for everyone not named TB

And Brees...but I agree with your point. And, hell, even he started breaking some with injuries last couple seasons.