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But, I think the Browns could have their best teams ever (in the SB era) with Watson.....not sure if it results in hoisting a trophy but they have the PLAYER they need at QB.

Separating the player and person for a minute.
His last full season was like 4-12 or something.
 

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Actually, I did not. You’re conflating your characterization of Watson’s transgressions as a Browns fan and Watson apologist and placing those words in my mouth. What I have said is that sexual assault is sexual assault. It’s all bad. You’ve already lost when you have to manipulate what I’ve said to make your point.
That's cool as you try to manipulate what you hope Watson did to what he really did (which you don't know). Those goal posts are heavy so if you have a bad back like me I'd get help moving them.
 

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That's cool as you try to manipulate what you hope Watson did to what he really did (which you don't know). Those goal posts are heavy so if you have a bad back like me I'd get help moving them.
Wait…you’re still questioning as to whether or not Watson committed sexual assault? Yikes.
 

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His last full season was like 4-12 or something.
The defense was horrible and he no longer had Hopkins. Nor no running game.

Yet, he completed 70% of his passes for over 300ypg, 8.9ypa, 33 TD's to just 7 picks and a 112 Passer Rating.
 

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Cool.....by those who did this. I didn't and not sure what the other 2-3 in this discussion said about Big Ben at the time.
I didn’t mention specific posters. I mentioned a fanbase in its aggregate. You have a horrible habit of putting words in poster’s mouth to make it easier for you to make an argument. My comment was about the fanbase. I didn’t mention any specific posters here.
 

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But because the Browns have lived in the shadow of a more successful geographic rival they were involved more than most in throwing those stones. And now karma has come back around. Next stop on this train is the realization that they’ve sold their soul in contracting a shit heel of a mercenary and they won’t have any hardware 10 years from now anyway when the Watson experience ultimately fails.
That's cool and all but you should probably be talking to any of those fans who you have an issue with if you think they were hypocritical.

Never mind your argument is also based on what you hope will happen and don't know.
 

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I didn’t mention specific posters. I mentioned a fanbase in its aggregate. You have a horrible habit of putting words in poster’s mouth to make it easier for you to make an argument. My comment was about the fanbase. I didn’t mention any specific posters here.
what words did I put in your mouth? I said you are talking about an entire fan base and what some may have said as opposed to what the people in this forum have said and trying to stay focused on that as opposed to moving the goal posts.
 

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That's cool and all but you should probably be talking to any of those fans who you have an issue with if you think they were hypocritical.

Never mind your argument is also based on what you hope will happen and don't know.
The Browns failing isn’t exactly walking out on a precarious limb. You’re 56-0 betting the field to make the Super Bowl over the Browns over the last 56 seasons.
 

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what words did I put in your mouth? I said you are talking about an entire fan base and what some may have said as opposed to what the people in this forum have said and trying to stay focused on that as opposed to moving the goal posts.
Actually, I made the first comment about the fan base. You’re the guy trying to move the goalposts. This is exactly what I mean. From the jump, I didn’t mention any specific posters. Now you want to change that conversation and you’re framing it as me changing the goal posts. I’m starting to think you’re the guy behind the Browns weekly defensive game plans.
 

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Actually, I made the first comment about the fan base. You’re the guy trying to move the goalposts. This is exactly what I mean. From the jump, I didn’t mention any specific posters. Now you want to change that conversation and you’re framing it as me changing the goal posts. I’m starting to think you’re the guy behind the Browns weekly defensive game plans.
Good luck to the Eagles tonight...
 

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Good luck to the Eagles tonight...
Looking for back to back perfect 3-0 weekends.
Last week: Phils won 2 and Eagles won 1. This week: Phils won their 2 now we need the Eagles to take care of business tonight.
 

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That's fair, but I'd say McClanahan, Glasnow and Cole are on another level fro m many.

Either way, hats off to Philly and the Padres for getting to the NLCS.

Glasnow has an era of 5 plus in the playoffs and has 20 career wins and is coming off Tommy John.

Not exactly 90s Greg Maddux
 

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The Browns failing isn’t exactly walking out on a precarious limb. You’re 56-0 betting the field to make the Super Bowl over the Browns over the last 56 seasons.
Yep....also never would have thought the Cavs would win a title nor seen the Tribe even make the playoffs let alone a WS at one time. Wasn't easy to imagine a team who had never won a SB getting there and winning over an all time great team without what was once an MVP caliber QB either....but they did. Only 55-1 taking the field against them, though now.
 

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Actually, I made the first comment about the fan base. You’re the guy trying to move the goalposts. This is exactly what I mean. From the jump, I didn’t mention any specific posters. Now you want to change that conversation and you’re framing it as me changing the goal posts. I’m starting to think you’re the guy behind the Browns weekly defensive game plans.
so, basically your argument now is I know you are but what am I (and it's not even accurate)?

Also moved the goal posts again to rip the Browns defense (which I'd rip right along with you....but I might blame some players and not just the coach)
 

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Yep....also never would have thought the Cavs would win a title nor seen the Tribe even make the playoffs let alone a WS at one time. Wasn't easy to imagine a team who had never won a SB getting there and winning over an all time great team without what was once an MVP caliber QB either....but they did. Only 55-1 taking the field against them, though now.
Eagles have been to three Super Bowls.
 

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Looking for back to back perfect 3-0 weekends.
Last week: Phils won 2 and Eagles won 1. This week: Phils won their 2 now we need the Eagles to take care of business tonight.
I am hoping for a perfect weekend too. Browns ruined it last weekend (shock). This week need to beat Cole and Browns not to screw up so not holding my breath.
 

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so, basically your argument now is I know you are but what am I (and it's not even accurate)?

Also moved the goal posts again to rip the Browns defense (which I'd rip right along with you....but I might blame some players and not just the coach)
I really wasn’t making an argument there. I was criticizing your go to move and then pointed out the irony of you claiming I was moving the goalposts when in the end that was what you were doing.
 
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