NBA OFF TOPIC THREAD

[dtgold88]

Both Browns teams are real. One is the original, the other is New Coke, lol.

Say what ya will but have to love the fact the city of Cleveland was promised a team before the old one even left.

 

[Shanemansj13]

My agenda: women get screwed by our system when it comes to them getting recompense and justice when they’re the victim of a sexual assault.

Sure they do but they also have lied in many cases. It goes both ways. If no evidence of physical harm you can jump to conclusions all you want. Your right.

 

[shopson67]

Say what ya will but have to love the fact the city of Cleveland was promised a team before the old one even left.

Art Modell pulled a crap move and he knew it.

 

[dtgold88]

Art Modell pulled a crap move and he knew it.

Luckily the NFL did too.

 

[Wamu]

Did Art Modell buy the Cleveland Browns organization?
Did he move that franchise to the city of Baltimore?
**Did the NFL grant a brand new expansion franchise to the city of Cleveland allowing them to retain rights to the name Cleveland Browns?

I'll try explaining this to you again.

If the Ravens are really the Browns then Jim Brown would be the teams all time leading rusher. He's not. Jamal Lewis is. And if the Ravens are really the Browns, which they aren't, then Paul Brown (158-48-8 record with the Browns) would be the teams winningest coach and not John Harbaugh (137-88).

** = Yes when the Browns returned in '99 all of their original records stayed in Cleveland. The city retained the right to keep the entire Browns history in Cleveland. It didn't go to Baltimore.

I know you said you're now on an anti-Cleveland crusade. But you're being very foolish repeatedly insisting the Ravens are are the Browns. The Ravens are their own team.

One more thing. When the Colts moved from Baltimore to Indy all of the teams records went with them. When the Oilers moved to Tennessee all of their team records went to Nashville.

The Browns are the only team in league history to have the franchise move to another city but got to keep all of the original franchise history.

 

[Wamu]

Art Modell pulled a crap move and he knew it.

What's Modell most famous for?

Firing two of the greatest HC's in league history. P. Brown & BB. And BB even called P. Brown the greatest HC in league history.

BB's own words.

"He's the greatest coach in the history of professional football, clear and simple. Everything I do today, Paul Brown did."

 

[Shanemansj13]

No my agenda isn’t anti Watson. It’s anti-Cleveland. I’m all worked up over a sports community that never wins. It’s the stuff of visceral irrational hatred.

That doesn't make any sense. Nobody is anti-Cleveland except for some Cleveland fans. It's a sad day if you are anti-Cleveland.

 

[Shanemansj13]

Trevor Bauer

Blame Goodell. Everyone should blame him. If he didn't fuck up with the owners so bad and then agree with the NFLPA to appoint a judge than maybe this a year or so but it's perfect timing for Watson and the Browns. If he punished the owners then he could have held a player, even with no evidence, to a greater punishment.

 

[fightinfunbags]

That doesn't make any sense. Nobody is anti-Cleveland except for some Cleveland fans. It's a sad day if you are anti-Cleveland.

Check your sarcasm meter. I think it’s on the fritz. Dtgold has said multiple times that I and others have an anti-Cleveland agenda so now I’m just embracing it. Later today I’m starting my crusade against popcorn balls and Pierogies.

 

[dtgold88]

Check your sarcasm meter. I think it’s on the fritz. Dtgold has said multiple times that I and others have an anti-Cleveland agenda so now I’m just embracing it. Later today I’m starting my crusade against popcorn balls and Pierogies.

I said you have an agenda in the Watson case because you do. Glad you are embracing it....finally.

are we famous for popcorn balls here?

 

[thunderc]

Blame Goodell. Everyone should blame him. If he didn't fuck up with the owners so bad and then agree with the NFLPA to appoint a judge than maybe this a year or so but it's perfect timing for Watson and the Browns. If he punished the owners then he could have held a player, even with no evidence, to a greater punishment.

I think everyone knows the owners are on a much different playing field than the players that sign agreements. It’s silly to even think otherwise.

 

[bksballer89]

Y'all just been fighting in here all day since morning?

 

[WiggyRuss]

I read the Judge's decision.

Some parts are just crazy.

Basically- the NFL gets to define what bad conduct was and I cant disagree with them even though what they decide is bad conduct is giant in its scope and they try and change the parameters after the fact.

its a wild decison......basically says Watson was scummy- but the NFL is incompetent and trying to shove an uprecedented penalty down watsons throat for unviolent ocnduct.

 

[WiggyRuss]

That doesn't make any sense. Nobody is anti-Cleveland except for some Cleveland fans. It's a sad day if you are anti-Cleveland.

@Wamu is both a cleveland fan and anti cleveland fan since he is a traitor like Benedict Arnold.

 

[dtgold88]

Y'all just been fighting in here all day since morning?

why should this day be like any other

 

[thunderc]

Padres got Hader from the Brewers

 

[bksballer89]

Padres got Hader from the Brewers

I'm confused why the Brewers dealt him. Are they not trying to win the WS as well?

 

[thunderc]

I'm confused why the Brewers dealt him. Are they not trying to win the WS as well?

He is going to get a record contract for a closer and it wasn’t going to be from them I guess.

 

[Wamu]

@Wamu is both a cleveland fan and anti cleveland fan since he is a traitor like Benedict Arnold.

You know what's really weird? How you never had an issue with me being a Celtics fan until five minutes after LeBron broke your heart for a second time and went to Los Angeles. It's rather funny.

And speaking of traitors let's see here. LeBron's the best player that will ever play for the Cavs. And you...

-swung on his nuts for seven years

-then hated him for four years

-the swung on his nuts for four more years

-only to turn around and hate him again when he had the massive cojones to piss you off and became a Laker

I've always been a fan of LeBron's. Unlike you.

Then there's stupid crap from you like the prime of his career passed him by the moment he went to Los Angeles. Or how about how you said his legacy was ruined for not getting an injured Lakers squad to the playoffs his first year.

Don't be pissed at LeBron for leaving twice. Be pissed at Gilbert for allowing that to happen. Especially his first stint in Cleveland. Who was the teams 2nd best player those 7 years? Not really anyone.

How many Browns games have you been to over the years, none right? I went to my first game when Sipe was the QB. How about Cavs games? My first game Chuck Daly was the coach. Spare me your Benedict Arnold nonsense.

 

[shopson67]

Blame Goodell. Everyone should blame him. If he didn't fuck up with the owners so bad and then agree with the NFLPA to appoint a judge than maybe this a year or so but it's perfect timing for Watson and the Browns. If he punished the owners then he could have held a player, even with no evidence, to a greater punishment.

You have my position flipped. Trevor Bauer should not have received another 2 year ban.