NBA Finals: Cleveland Cavs VS Golden State Warriors

[Shanemansj13]

Come on?
Greatest performance ever?
Great comeback and he was awesome but they were down 1-3 and won in the last minute with him not making the shot.

It is in the discussion lol and it isn't crazy either.

 

[Rockinkuwait]

Start a poll with great performances?
Not sure what you want from me.

And, stats are nice, but James padded his late in some games and especially game 4.
Right?

Really??? The 4th was get the ball to Lebron and Kyrie in that game and try to keep in the game. Kyrie went 1-9 there taking the most 4th quarter shots. Bron took it to the rim and made some shots. Should he have passed on getting to the rim for easy scores and maybe tried tougher things instead? Lebron never battled a board from anyone except on the offensive end.

I guess if I was going to say "Lebron padded his stats late in games of the finals", I wouldn't choose the finals where he spent the most time of any of them on the bench late in games as the one to try and say that.

 

[WiggyRuss]

It is in the discussion lol and it isn't crazy either.

down 3-1 against the defending NBA Champions. A team with the 2 time defending MVP. A team that just won the most games in NBA history during the regular season. A team that lost only 2 games at home all year during the regular season.

To have to win 3 in a row- against a team that had not lost 3 in a row in 2 years- and do it by winning 2 of those games on the road is totally and completely ridiculous.

For LeBron to do it in the fashion he did....his Game 5 was insane....his Game 6 was better...and the leadership and triple double and the play of his CAREER in Game 7 sealed it. Of course that is one of the very best Finals performances of all time. Its not even a question.

Not only that- but the pressure LeBron was under was immense. 52 years of suffering of Cleveland fans. The own pressure he put on himself to deliver to his hometown team. Al the drama that had led up to it. The fact that if he lost he would definitely no longer be considered the best in the game.

Unbelievable historical performance among the best ever. And thats before even getting into the insane statistical evidence which just confirms what all our eyes saw.

 

[gordontrue]

LeBron led BOTH teams in Points, Rebounds, Assists, Steals, & Blocks in a 7-game Finals.

That's all you need to know that OF COURSE it is in the discussion for greatest Finals performance of all-time.

Some may disagree that it is the greatest but to act like it is a ridiculous notion is.... well, ridiculous.

Jordan in 93 and Magic in 87 would be a couple of candidates in addition to Wade in 06.

 

[SJ76]

While I will agree that it was a helluva comeback and Lebron was pretty solid in game 6 & 7, let us not forget there was what... 1 FG in the last 4:30 of game 7?

It was the Finals, but it was a bit of a pillow fight. It certainly wasn't 2 heavyweights trading blows down the stretch.

 

[SJ76]

And just because GS broke the regular season record doesn't even put them in the conversation of the best teams ever. They didn't win the title.

Hell San Antonio almost broke the record too - shows you how watered down the NBA is.

 

[Across The Field]

And just because GS broke the regular season record doesn't even put them in the conversation of the best teams ever. They didn't win the title.

Hell San Antonio almost broke the record too - shows you how watered down the NBA is.

Not in the conversation? Seriously?

 

[SJ76]

Imagine that.. No argument from Ferry bandwagon boy sticking up for his GSW, while switching to the Knicks so suddenly.

Just rainbows

 

[SJ76]

 

[SJ76]

Not in the conversation? Seriously?

You are gonna put this Golden St team over the Celtics, Bulls, Lakers teams that actually won a ring? Even the Spurs teams that won multiple titles. No GSW don't even belong in the conversation with the other heavyweights that won more than 1 title. GSW are bunch of jump shooters man. They got lucky to win one in a watered down league. Ever wonder why the NBA today rarely has quality Centers that the NBA had pre-90's?

at the NBA regular season these days.. And the quality of the NBA top to bottom. You think it was a coincidence that San Antonio almost broke the record too?

 

[SJ76]

at one of the "best teams of all-time" losing 3 in a row in the Finals and getting blown out in the playoffs 6-7 times.

 

[WiggyRuss]

You are gonna put this Golden St team over the Celtics, Bulls, Lakers teams that actually won a ring? Even the Spurs teams that won multiple titles. No GSW don't even belong in the conversation with the other heavyweights that won more than 1 title. GSW are bunch of jump shooters man. They got lucky to win one in a watered down league. Ever wonder why the NBA today rarely has quality Centers that the NBA had pre-90's?

at the NBA regular season these days.. And the quality of the NBA top to bottom. You think it was a coincidence that San Antonio almost broke the record too?

this watered down league notion is the dumbest shit i have ever heard.

in the 90's their was maybe 2-3 foreign guys in the whole league. With international scouting their are now over 100 foreign players that add a ton to the league.

20 years ago scouting and college programs were no where near as sophistacted and prevalent as today. You can get good coaching in the A-10 now. The vast institution that is the college basketball circuit is 1000% times more efficient at identifying, training and coaching players than 20 years ago.

Not only that- but injuries and guys taken care of their bodies. 20 years ago the league would lose guys from injuries that now they can fix. The technology of food science and advanced workout techniques have guys better trained, and healthier than they have ever been.

No time in the history of the league has their been NEAR the amount of talent that is in the NBA as their is right now. Its not even close.

 

[SJ76]

this watered down league notion is the dumbest shit i have ever heard.

in the 90's their was maybe 2-3 foreign guys in the whole league. With international scouting their are now over 100 foreign players that add a ton to the league.

20 years ago scouting and college programs were no where near as sophistacted and prevalent as today. You can get good coaching in the A-10 now. The vast institution that is the college basketball circuit is 1000% times more efficient at identifying, training and coaching players than 20 years ago.

Not only that- but injuries and guys taken care of their bodies. 20 years ago the league would lose guys from injuries that now they can fix. The technology of food science and advanced workout techniques have guys better trained, and healthier than they have ever been.

No time in the history of the league has their been NEAR the amount of talent that is in the NBA as their is right now. Its not even close.

Oh I get it now... Golden St best team ever + Cleveland beat GS = Cleveland best team ever.


1 FG in the last 4:30 in Game 7!! That's some crazy talent!

 

[WiggyRuss]

Oh I get it now... Golden St best team ever + Cleveland beat GS = Cleveland best team ever.


1 FG in the last 4:30 in Game 7!! That's some crazy talent!



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did i say that?

i just said that the fallacy that the league is watered down is complete bullshit.

the league has never had more talent in it and its not even close.

 

[DJ Fieri]

ESPN is stupid. They said no player has scored 40 points in back to back games in the Finals.

MJ scored 31 in game 1, 42 in game 2, 44 in game 3, 55 in game 4, and 41 in game 5 waaaaaaaaaay back when.

 

[SJ76]

Golden St beats all time record. San Antonio almost breaks 20 year old record as well

=


NBA is by far much better than the teams in the 80s/90s

 

[Shanemansj13]

at one of the "best teams of all-time" losing 3 in a row in the Finals and getting blown out in the playoffs 6-7 times.

Well if Lebron wouldn't have blocked that shot or Kyrie does make that dagger 3 over baby Curry you know what everyone is talking about? GS being one of the greatest teams ever? They didn't win it all, but bc of 1 or 2 plays that doesn't change the fact they had a great season, they just faced a 2 headed monster that was unbelieveable.

 

[gordontrue]

Lebron was pretty solid in game 6 & 7

 

[SJ76]

Well if Lebron wouldn't have blocked that shot or Kyrie does make that dagger 3 over baby Curry you know what everyone is talking about? GS being one of the greatest teams ever? They didn't win it all, but bc of 1 or 2 plays that doesn't change the fact they had a great season, they just faced a 2 headed monster that was unbelieveable.

You mean Kyrie's FG to ice it? The ONLY FG in the last 4:30 of game 7?


Please guys. Cleveland won, Lebron was a beast. I'll give credit where credit is due, but if you think a jump shooting team is one of the best teams of all time.. that got blown out 6-7 times in the playoffs and lost 3 in a row in the Finals. Won 1 title over a gimped up Cavs squad last year...


It was way more of choke job.


And yes the NBA is watered down. You don't have 2 teams almost break a 20 year old record because the NBA is stout. And then the team that did got smoked 6-7 times in the playoffs.

1996 Bulls lost 1 playoff game going into the Finals. In OT. Then they went up 3-0 on Seattle and Shaun Kemp, Gary Payton, Sam Perkins and co. Best teams of all time dominate, they don't get their ass kicked like the Golden St Jumpshooters did.

Please

 

[Across The Field]

ESPN is stupid. They said no player has scored 40 points in back to back games in the Finals.

MJ scored 31 in game 1, 42 in game 2, 44 in game 3, 55 in game 4, and 41 in game 5 waaaaaaaaaay back when.

When did they say that? I honestly missed that one.