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I see 3 main candidates I want at 4. ramsey,bosa and bruckner. bruckner would look good at RE and so would bosa. we also need a replacement for the weak link Hayden
 

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Of course. Are we talking player? Or are we talking $'s? Can't do one without the other. Mincey plays a role and is the Ying to Gregory's Yang. And Cap rules all in FA...


better player comes first
 

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Dont need to talk to any CB. I understand football.
In your world, no corner is elite. It is just due to pass rush. That is rediculous. Does a pass rush help, of course it does, but it does not get an elite corner in a position to make a play. His talent does even with no pass rush.


no it is not. a good or better CB benefits from the pressure the DL puts on the QB. some here seem to think that it isa one aspect game but it is combination of all. and there are elite CB's in my world but i think they get even better when they have the help of a good DL. i assume from your comments that you think they do it all on their own
 

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Dont need to talk to any CB. I understand football.
In your world, no corner is elite. It is just due to pass rush. That is rediculous. Does a pass rush help, of course it does, but it does not get an elite corner in a position to make a play. His talent does even with no pass rush.


here are the season stats for 4 NFL teams by league ranking:

Team 1: sacks 1st, int's 13th
Team 2: sacks 6th, int's 1st
Team 3: sacks 3rd, int's 8th
Team 4: sacks 25th, int's 31st

2 of these 4 are playing tomorrow
 

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here are the season stats for 4 NFL teams by league ranking:

Team 1: sacks 1st, int's 13th
Team 2: sacks 6th, int's 1st
Team 3: sacks 3rd, int's 8th
Team 4: sacks 25th, int's 31st

2 of these 4 are playing tomorrow

Where was team 4 in overall defensive rankings?
 

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here are the season stats for 4 NFL teams by league ranking:

Team 1: sacks 1st, int's 13th
Team 2: sacks 6th, int's 1st
Team 3: sacks 3rd, int's 8th
Team 4: sacks 25th, int's 31st

2 of these 4 are playing tomorrow
Did all 4 teams play 4 QBs this year? Or are we playing with numbers...
 

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I have HIGH hopes for Green... but he is too green (no pun intended ) to start right now... gotta keep Free for that reason.
 

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okay i give up. y'all are correct all we need is a shutdown corner who needs a pass-rush

That's not what I'm saying, what I'm saying is we need more than just DLmen and we cannot afford the multiple FA's suggested.
 

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okay i give up. y'all are correct all we need is a shutdown corner who needs a pass-rush
Here is the problem. You are not listening to a word anyone says. We are all listening to you and trying to say why we wouldn't go to that extreme. NO ONE has ever said we don't need to prove the pass rush. And the pass rush does help the coverage for sure...just like the coverage helps the pass rush...team game
 

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The game is won in the trenches by the "fat guys" so they say

Give me a choice of Bosa, Jacks, Reed, Spence, Smith, vs Ramsey or Hargraves
I'm picking a DL or a LB all day does not mean that the CB position does not need attention but I build from the Line back don't mean its right just the way I would do it

I can see the other side that the elite CB gives the DL 1 extra step to get there with coverage

If the Boys don't take a QB at 4 give me Miles Jack and I smile all season long

other opinions will vary and that's what keeps a message board running
 

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The game is won in the trenches by the "fat guys" so they say

Give me a choice of Bosa, Jacks, Reed, Spence, Smith, vs Ramsey or Hargraves
I'm picking a DL or a LB all day does not mean that the CB position does not need attention but I build from the Line back don't mean its right just the way I would do it

I can see the other side that the elite CB gives the DL 1 extra step to get there with coverage

If the Boys don't take a QB at 4 give me Miles Jack and I smile all season long

other opinions will vary and that's what keeps a message board running

For some reason I can't get in on the Miles Jack isea, and honestly I don't know why. I'm just ehhhh about him.
 

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Here is the problem. You are not listening to a word anyone says. We are all listening to you and trying to say why we wouldn't go to that extreme. NO ONE has ever said we don't need to prove the pass rush. And the pass rush does help the coverage for sure...just like the coverage helps the pass rush...team game


you are right of course it is a team game where all aspects of the defense make the individual parts better. all i was trying to do was discuss one portion or aspect that i feel needs some major improvement. i also believe that we need to improve the corner position and the 1st part of that is cutting Carr lose and thru the draft and free agency bringing in some one like Hargreaves thru the draft and perhaps some one like Janoris Jenkins thru free agency. with Orlando Scandrick, Terrance Mitchell & Deji Olatoye that would be a major upgrade at the CB position. and i would move Byron Jones to FS.
 

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For some reason I can't get in on the Miles Jack isea, and honestly I don't know why. I'm just ehhhh about him.

Well I can understand not a lot of film on him this year due to the injury.

lucky for us we are not scouts right .
 
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