Which is why I learned not to believe any kind of hype, especially when it's involving someone that signs on with these guys. Just another bit of that trademark False Hope that they are famous for providing.
I know we've often talked boycotting until we got better results from the front office...Now I was half asleep about an hour ago watching Servais post game BS blabbering ... but I am nearly positive I heard him say:
" its a long season and we have a lot to learn about this team"
Whiskey Tangy Foxtrot OVER !!
No mention of 3 sloppy inexcusable errors ? Or the countless other problems why they are losing 75% of their games the past few weeks.
I guess on the bright side ( insert sarcasm ) the Ms team batting avg rose .001 to a still MLB worse .198
Very likely this will be the 1st season since 1989 I do not attend 1 single game in person
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Bra-fucking-vo! That's what needed to be said all along!Gotta love Ryan Divish. Was reading his Mariners mailbag and this really stood out to me about ownership responsibility to improve the team:
These would all be legitimate reasons for Mariners ownership to make significant investments in the 2022 team.
But how about this reason:
Professional responsibility.
For the past three seasons, the Mariners have asked fans and corporate sponsors to accept a rebuilding plan that, while necessary and logical, has also cultivated an on-field product that was substandard by every measure.
Mariners chairman John Stanton and general manager Jerry Dipoto asked for patience, admitting that they weren’t putting a team on the field that was going to stop a postseason drought that dates back to 2001. They continually highlighted a plan for future success featuring talented young prospects and future spending to supplement that core group of talent in an effort to draw attention from an MLB team that has been abhorrent to watch.
And during that time, the Mariners continued to let average ticket and concession prices rise on basic yearly inflation while knowingly offering an inferior product than past seasons. They asked people to pay MLB-level prices to often watch retreads, castoffs, waiver claims, never-will-be’s with a few young players and one or two established veterans sprinkled in.
That fans still continue to pay for these prices speaks to their true love of live baseball and loyalty to an organization that hasn’t often reciprocated the event aspect of a game at T-Mobile Park, particularly on warm summer evenings, and the renewed desire to see live sporting events of any sort after a 2020 season without fans.
I’ve said often that this franchise has been doomed by a fear to commit. The Mariners refused to truly commit to a rebuilding process in past years when it was obvious that the MLB roster needed a reset and the farm system was thin in talent. (Remember a losing season and bad teams don’t always equate to rebuilding.) They’ve also refused to commit to doing what it takes to win in terms of acquiring free agents or in midseason trades out of fear of payroll.
Spending the most money on payroll doesn’t guarantee success. Plenty of teams, including the Mariners, have committed to large payrolls and failed to win. But past failures shouldn’t be an impediment to future decisions.
Yes, the A’s and Rays have managed to have consistent success with some of the lowest payrolls in baseball. They’ve done so out of necessity. They would happily operate with a higher budget.
Instead, the Mariners have been wishy-washy. After giving $240 million to Robinson Cano in 2014 and $58 million to Nelson Cruz the next offseason, they decided they had done enough and refused to add legitimate finishing pieces to rosters that were playoff viable largely out of payroll concerns.
How is it justifiable to get close enough to the known goal and not do everything it takes to reach it? Reasons be damned.
To quote William “Bill the Butcher” Cutting from “Gangs of New York”: “I know your works. You are neither cold nor hot. So because you are lukewarm I will spew you out of my mouth. You can build your filthy world without me.”
The Mariners have been lukewarm when it comes to doing what it takes to win in the context of one season or over the span of multiple seasons.
The “step-back” rebuild represented a slight change from that irresolute thinking. But now, three years into it, regardless of the challenges presented by the COVID pandemic, the Mariners can’t become spineless or cautious.
It isn’t about what ownership needs to see this season that should provide the impetus to invest in the team this offseason. It’s what they’ve already seen the past few seasons — a substandard product on the field — and what they’ve seen every October for the past 19 seasons — an MLB postseason without them.
They don’t need to invest because it’s something they have to do. They need to invest in making the team better because that’s what they are supposed to do.
Mailbag: Discussing the Mariners’ responsibility to improve, early results from Jarred Kelenic and Logan Gilbert, and more
What will it take for the Mariners to make significant investments in the 2022 team? And what are Ryan Divish's thoughts on the call-ups of Jarred Kelenic and Logan Gilbert? He answers those and more in his latest mailbag.
Yep, that is soooooo Servais. I am getting so tired of hearing my friends laughing about my continued support of this franchise. I don't even discuss the M's anymore because there's no way I can justify the entusiasm anymore. It's just so pathetic, year after year. Dipoto has Stanton disillustioned. They give him a contract extension with big buck, and he in turn, gives Servais an extension. Most of the coachinng staff are a incompetent and pathetic as Servais. I hold Stanton & co. responsible for Dipoto, and Dipoto is responsible for Servais as well as all the inept coaching staff. Anyone with the slightest knowledge of baseball can see what is going on here. Most fans have no idea the depth of how messed up ownership and management continues to be. All fans want is for a baseball team in Seattle that wins games and a baseball team that they can be proud of. Instead, they are manippulated, deceived, and end up with incompetence, bobbleheads, expensive seats and overcharged prices for food and beverages, a losing team, and all the empty promises things will get better, soon......year after year.
I SURE MISS LOU AND THE WINNING TIMES
Seems to me the extension given to Servais is the result of the "extensions" that Stanton and Dipoto get just for associating with him.Yep, that is soooooo Servais. I am getting so tired of hearing my friends laughing about my continued support of this franchise. I don't even discuss the M's anymore because there's no way I can justify the entusiasm anymore. It's just so pathetic, year after year. Dipoto has Stanton disillustioned. They give him a contract extension with big buck, and he in turn, gives Servais an extension. Most of the coachinng staff are a incompetent and pathetic as Servais. I hold Stanton & co. responsible for Dipoto, and Dipoto is responsible for Servais as well as all the inept coaching staff. Anyone with the slightest knowledge of baseball can see what is going on here. Most fans have no idea the depth of how messed up ownership and management continues to be. All fans want is for a baseball team in Seattle that wins games and a baseball team that they can be proud of. Instead, they are manippulated, deceived, and end up with incompetence, bobbleheads, expensive seats and overcharged prices for food and beverages, a losing team, and all the empty promises things will get better, soon......year after year.
