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[wildturkey]

Man, the wrestling world has been nuts the last month or so.

Two items today:

Ric Flair was granted his release from WWE.




Adam Cole's contract expires after Summerslam

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Adam Cole is going to become a free agent this month. Cole had been rumored to have his contract expire in 2024, but Wrestling Inc.…

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[Duffman]

Man, the wrestling world has been nuts the last month or so.

Two items today:

Ric Flair was granted his release from WWE.




Adam Cole's contract expires after Summerslam

Exclusive: Top WWE NXT Star Becoming A Free Agent Soon

Adam Cole is going to become a free agent this month. Cole had been rumored to have his contract expire in 2024, but Wrestling Inc.…

www.wrestlinginc.com

The release of Flair isn't that big of a deal but Adam Cole leaving would be. I saw this today and this could explain why that guy was fired if he was this bad at keeping people in the company up to date on Superstars contracts;

PWInsider.com can also confirm that the timing of the company learning of the Cole contract issue very much lines up with the timing of the departure of Canyon Ceman.

 

[wildturkey]

The release of Flair isn't that big of a deal but Adam Cole leaving would be. I saw this today and this could explain why that guy was fired if he was this bad at keeping people in the company up to date on Superstars contracts;

PWInsider.com can also confirm that the timing of the company learning of the Cole contract issue very much lines up with the timing of the departure of Canyon Ceman.

Long term, Flair isn't a big deal. But its a nice name to have if he were to go to AEW (which seems obvious) in the short term. They do a great job with their old talent pairing them up with younger guys and obviously, they've got the 4 Horsemen reunion deal they could work with him, Arn, and Tully.

Cole would definitely be the bigger deal if he were to leave. It sounds like he may (wisely) be using this situation for leverage since his contract expired weeks ago but agreed to work thru Summerslam. He was arguably the biggest star on the indys prior to going to WWE and would instantly be a star if he went to AEW. He's done all there is to do in NXT. Might be using this as a chance to get a bigger payday and some more concrete guarantees for how he'll be used on the main roster in WWE.

Also about the Cemen (giggity) stuff, he also had that hiccup of not updating Black's non-compete from 30 to 90 days. So yeah, not looking like that guy was doing a good job, lol

 

[UVA_Guy81]

Long term, Flair isn't a big deal. But its a nice name to have if he were to go to AEW (which seems obvious) in the short term. They do a great job with their old talent pairing them up with younger guys and obviously, they've got the 4 Horsemen reunion deal they could work with him, Arn, and Tully.

Cole would definitely be the bigger deal if he were to leave. It sounds like he may (wisely) be using this situation for leverage since his contract expired weeks ago but agreed to work thru Summerslam. He was arguably the biggest star on the indys prior to going to WWE and would instantly be a star if he went to AEW. He's done all there is to do in NXT. Might be using this as a chance to get a bigger payday and some more concrete guarantees for how he'll be used on the main roster in WWE.

Also about the Cemen (giggity) stuff, he also had that hiccup of not updating Black's non-compete from 30 to 90 days. So yeah, not looking like that guy was doing a good job, lol

For the Horsemen, they could always bring back JJ for an appearance and Sting was with the Horsemen for a short time. So if Flair came in, it could easily be done.
No doubt Cole has plenty of leverage right now. On one side, he has his girlfriend and his old buddies from New Japan/ROH. On the other side, he gets to work with Shawn and Hunter, which were childhood icons to him. I’d be very shocked if he moved to the main roster (if he was re-signed) and was used to the best of his abilities. I feel like he would be happier in AEW long term and have a much easier schedule.

 

[Duffman]

Long term, Flair isn't a big deal. But its a nice name to have if he were to go to AEW (which seems obvious) in the short term. They do a great job with their old talent pairing them up with younger guys and obviously, they've got the 4 Horsemen reunion deal they could work with him, Arn, and Tully.

Cole would definitely be the bigger deal if he were to leave. It sounds like he may (wisely) be using this situation for leverage since his contract expired weeks ago but agreed to work thru Summerslam. He was arguably the biggest star on the indys prior to going to WWE and would instantly be a star if he went to AEW. He's done all there is to do in NXT. Might be using this as a chance to get a bigger payday and some more concrete guarantees for how he'll be used on the main roster in WWE.

Also about the Cemen (giggity) stuff, he also had that hiccup of not updating Black's non-compete from 30 to 90 days. So yeah, not looking like that guy was doing a good job, lol

If we don’t hear anything on Cole re-signing before SS his match with O’Reiley is gonna be interesting. If he loses the speculation is gonna be huge on if he put him over before leaving because if WWE knows he’s leaving I don’t see them booking him to go over.

 

[wazzu31]

Long term, Flair isn't a big deal. But its a nice name to have if he were to go to AEW (which seems obvious) in the short term. They do a great job with their old talent pairing them up with younger guys and obviously, they've got the 4 Horsemen reunion deal they could work with him, Arn, and Tully.

Cole would definitely be the bigger deal if he were to leave. It sounds like he may (wisely) be using this situation for leverage since his contract expired weeks ago but agreed to work thru Summerslam. He was arguably the biggest star on the indys prior to going to WWE and would instantly be a star if he went to AEW. He's done all there is to do in NXT. Might be using this as a chance to get a bigger payday and some more concrete guarantees for how he'll be used on the main roster in WWE.

Also about the Cemen (giggity) stuff, he also had that hiccup of not updating Black's non-compete from 30 to 90 days. So yeah, not looking like that guy was doing a good job, lol

Problem with Cole is realistically he should only go to the main roster sporadically. NXT is WWE’s AEW. But with AEW aren’t they started to collect enough releases from the WWE that their roster is going the WCW route where isn’t enough spots.

 

[UVA_Guy81]

Problem with Cole is realistically he should only go to the main roster sporadically. NXT is WWE’s AEW. But with AEW aren’t they started to collect enough releases from the WWE that their roster is going the WCW route where isn’t enough spots.

No question the AEW roster is starting to get a bit bloated. They can easily cut people like Joey Janela, Sonny Kiss, TH2, Marko Stunt, Big Swole and some of the Japanese women that are rarely around to start out. Doubt any of them would probably be missed.

 

[futballiscool]

Problem with Cole is realistically he should only go to the main roster sporadically. NXT is WWE’s AEW. But with AEW aren’t they started to collect enough releases from the WWE that their roster is going the WCW route where isn’t enough spots.

I hear this comparison often but the WWF attitude era roster was made up almost entirely of ex WCW/NWA talent too (Steve Austin, Taker, HHH, Jericho, Big Show, Pillman, Benoit, Mick Foley)

I have no problem with signing talent from a competitor as long as the creative is better and different and its not at the expense of their homegrown stars.

 

[wazzu31]

I hear this comparison often but the WWF attitude era roster was made up almost entirely of ex WCW/NWA talent too (Steve Austin, Taker, HHH, Jericho, Big Show, Pillman, Benoit, Mick Foley)

I have no problem with signing talent from a competitor as long as the creative is better and different and its not at the expense of their homegrown stars.

But you can’t exactly compare the WCW to attitude era to right now Adam Cole. All those other guys outside of Benoit and Jericho were too small and only Benoit was being semi pushed. Cole is too small to be legitimate on the main roster and is NXT. It would be a lot better for him to go to AEW rather than using it to negotiate being on the main WWE roster.

The only comparison I was making with WCW is WCW collected a whole bunch of former WWE stars and then the roster got too big. In the attitude era the WWE talent roster wasn’t as big as it appears AEW is getting.

 

[futballiscool]

But you can’t exactly compare the WCW to attitude era to right now Adam Cole. All those other guys outside of Benoit and Jericho were too small and only Benoit was being semi pushed. Cole is too small to be legitimate on the main roster and is NXT. It would be a lot better for him to go to AEW rather than using it to negotiate being on the main WWE roster.

The only comparison I was making with WCW is WCW collected a whole bunch of former WWE stars and then the roster got too big. In the attitude era the WWE talent roster wasn’t as big as it appears AEW is getting.

I agree with most of this.

I think what happened is they were signing almost anyone with star power from WWE because there were so few options and now there are too many options because of the mass releases.

Cole's an obvious signing if available because of his connection with Baker, the Elite and his role in NXT but otherwise it should only be a major star who moves the needle or an underutilized talent they can sign at the right price.

 

[Judge Fudge]

Flair was asked and granted. He was upset by creative.

Cole leaving would be ginormous. I have never understood why they didn't call him up.

 

[wazzu31]

I agree with most of this.

I think what happened is they were signing almost anyone with star power from WWE because there were so few options and now there are too many options because of the mass releases.

Cole's an obvious signing if available because of his connection with Baker, the Elite and his role in NXT but otherwise it should only be a major star who moves the needle or an underutilized talent they can sign at the right price.

Without question. I was just saying I think it is foolish for Cole to bargain his contract for the main roster. AEW is honestly better suited for him because NXT will never be anything more than a third brand….but how will that go over with AEW fans that Punk, Cole and Bryan are pushing everyone else down.

 

[The Q]

Without question. I was just saying I think it is foolish for Cole to bargain his contract for the main roster. AEW is honestly better suited for him because NXT will never be anything more than a third brand….but how will that go over with AEW fans that Punk, Cole and Bryan are pushing everyone else down.

cole is an in athletic midget

compare him to the smaller guys aew already has. They’re better

I hope he just goes back to RoH

 

[wazzu31]

cole is an in athletic midget

compare him to the smaller guys aew already has. They’re better

I hope he just goes back to RoH

A company that featured Orange Cassidy can’t be throwing stones at a midget. A midget would kick his ass.

 

[The Q]

A company that featured Orange Cassidy can’t be throwing stones at a midget. A midget would kick his ass.

when they haven’t figured out how to use guys like pac and the lucha bros, downgrading to Cole seems silly

 

[wazzu31]

when they haven’t figured out how to use guys like pac and the lucha bros, downgrading to Cole seems silly

Cole >>>>>>Pac

 

[The Q]

Cole >>>>>>Pac

no chance

One is athletic and cut

the other is a flabby unathletic long haired pretty boy

 

[wazzu31]

no chance

One is athletic and cut

the other is a flabby unathletic long haired pretty boy

Chris Jericho says hi

 

[UVA_Guy81]

A company that featured Orange Cassidy can’t be throwing stones at a midget. A midget would kick his ass.

Or better yet, Marko Stunt.

Cole >>>>>>Pac

Agree to disagree here.

 

[wazzu31]

Or better yet, Marko Stunt.



Agree to disagree here.

You really thing a single promoter would choose Pac over Cole? I’ll admit I have fast forward every time he has come on my tv so I may have a bias.