Meyer is getting screwed

[Scapegoat]

I think Urban Meyer is one of the biggest pricks out there. He's condescending as hell and just an all around asshole imho. He makes Nick Saban look like a SNL character with a lot of personality. Zach Smith is a pos. Everyone can agree on that.


With all that said, Meyer's job isn't marriage counseling. He's not a detective. He's not a district attorney. He's paid to win games and hopefully mentor young bucks (no pun intended) into men.

Not sure how many of you guys have real friends, if you are in faux outrage mode about Urban. Meyer and this guy have been boys for a good while. Urban has heard about this from his coach/buddies point of view. If you don't have a friend that your wife doesn't like, then you don't have any buddies, you have associates.

This gal, Courtney Smith, has no problem with drinking to much and endangering a large group of people she doesn't know, but has a problem with leaving a guy who is a piece of shit. Doesn't make sense.

Yes Urban should just be quiet and quit contradicting his own lies, but this bullshit about him not handling "he said, she said" stuff is embarrassing to the American public. Firing people over faux outrage is ignorant and if I keep typing, this will end up in the PF.

 

[osubuckeye89]

Yeah this is looking a lot more like its about peoples personal opinions on OSU or Urban Meyers now. Until the investigation is over and we have actual facts. Not a story that was fabricated and edited later. Its just gossip now. The only real question is. If Meyers is cleared and it turns out the reporter misled everyone. Is he held accountable?Or do we just move on to the next coach/Program next year.......

He should be, but I doubt it.

He's technically not employed anywhere at the moment (from my understanding?) so it's not like he can be fired. Hopefully outlets have the peace of mind never to hire this guy in the future. This clearly isnt a case of an "honest mistake" this is outright fabrication and misleading. McMurphy took a he said/she said incident and presented it as fact with only one side of the story and no real actual evidence against Meyer himself (Other than some texts to his wife) He damn well knew how easily that would get the social justice faux outrage crowd going and get his name back in the ring after ESPN canned him. Anyone who thinks this is about "Jusitce for victims" is kidding themselves, this was all about McMurphy looking for the biggest break to further his own career.....he and most of these faux outrage people could care less about Courtney Smith.

 

[TheRobotDevil]

He should be, but I doubt it.

He's technically not employed anywhere at the moment (from my understanding?) so it's not like he can be fired. Hopefully outlets have the peace of mind never to hire this guy in the future. This clearly isnt a case of an "honest mistake" this is outright fabrication and misleading. McMurphy took a he said/she said incident and presented it as fact with only one side of the story and no real actual evidence against Meyer himself (Other than some texts to his wife) He damn well knew how easily that would get the social justice faux outrage crowd going and get his name back in the ring after ESPN canned him. Anyone who thinks this is about "Jusitce for victims" is kidding themselves, this was all about McMurphy looking for the biggest break to further his own career.....he and most of these faux outrage people could care less about Courtney Smith.

I agree if McMurphy is not held accountable it sets a precedent and opens a nasty pattern. Any out of work or social media "reporter". Can now buy a story. Spin it in a way that draws in the bigger name or institution for a pay day. Say what ever he wants in order to gain the social media outrage to give the story legs. And completely change his story after the facts start to emerge. By not holding McMurphy accountable. Its just going to be the next program...Multiple stories....And basically a free for all with no rules or structure in regards to social media etc....I think if Meyers is cleared he should be entitled to legal recourse against McMurphy

 

[WizardHawk]

McMurphy killed Kennedy. He changed his story about what he had for breakfast that day. We must not let him get away with it.

 

[TheRobotDevil]

Now that you're a staff member will I get in trouble if I talk shit about USC?

No but I'll trade ya Clay Aiken for Urban Meyers. SC went through something similar last year. Urban is the devil en sech because an unemployed reporter on social media said so....I did tell people to wait for actual facts.Reporters story is already changing as actual details are released.

 

[osubuckeye89]

I agree if McMurphy is not held accountable it sets a precedent and opens a nasty pattern. Any out of work or social media "reporter". Can now buy a story. Spin it in a way that draws in the bigger name or institution for a pay day. Say what ever he wants in order to gain the social media outrage to give the story legs. And completely change his story after the facts start to emerge. By not holding McMurphy accountable. Its just going to be the next program...Multiple stories....And basically a free for all with no rules or structure in regards to social media etc....I think if Meyers is cleared he should be entitled to legal recourse against McMurphy

The problem is as someone who's not under employment anywhere. How do you hold him accountable?

You'd hope media outlets would take that into their own hands and nobody would ever higher the guy.

I guess a lawsuit by Meyer himself or the University could come into play. That would force some sort of accountability.

You're totally right though. Someone needs to do something to stop this from becoming the norm.

Problem again is that the public outrage mob does not care about facts. Even if McMurphy came out and flat out said that he fabricated his story, the initial claim for Meyers head was enough to get said public outrage to make a predetermined verdict of guilty (based of nothing but feelings of course) and nothing said is going to change their minds.

 

[Wamu]

No but I'll trade ya Clay Aiken for Urban Meyers. SC went through something similar last year. Urban is the devil en sech because an unemployed reporter on social media said so....I did tell people to wait for actual facts.Reporters story is already changing as actual details are released.

Clay Aiken would lose his tan & freeze in Columbus. He's too much of a warm weather pretty-boy to coach anywhere it gets cold.

 

[WizardHawk]

Just hang him in a public setting to discourage other reporters from making errors in their reports.

Problem solved.

 

[TheRobotDevil]

Clay Aiken would lose his tan & freeze in Columbus. He's too much of a warm weather pretty-boy to coach anywhere it gets cold.

Would work out great for SC. Meyers may be their biggest competition in their recruiting pipeline. Hell I would send the "reporter" a thank you card. For releasing the misinformation. Everyone wants to base this on.

 

[TheRobotDevil]

The problem is as someone who's not under employment anywhere. How do you hold him accountable?

You'd hope media outlets would take that into their own hands and nobody would ever higher the guy.

I guess a lawsuit by Meyer himself or the University could come into play. That would force some sort of accountability.

You're totally right though. Someone needs to do something to stop this from becoming the norm.

Problem again is that the public outrage mob does not care about facts. Even if McMurphy came out and flat out said that he fabricated his story, the initial claim for Meyers head was enough to get said public outrage to make a predetermined verdict of guilty (based of nothing but feelings of course) and nothing said is going to change their minds.

I completely agree. And thats the worst part of social media being viewed as legitimate news. It thrives on public outrage. All you have to do is target someone or a university. Thats in the spotlight,that people don't like, that opposing fan bases will jump on. And its a quick payday whie using social media as a weapon.

You see it pretty clearly now. People are so consumed with wanting to crucify Meyers. They're making excuses for a reporter that did the same thing. They are most upset for Meyers over. IMO Meyers should be entitled to a monetary settlement at the least. Once the "reporter" received money for a story he's changed directions on repeatedly now. The entire dynamic changed.

 

[osubuckeye89]

I completely agree. And thats the worst part of social media being viewed as legitimate news. It thrives on public outrage. All you have to do is target someone or a university. Thats in the spotlight,that people don't like, that opposing fan bases will jump on. And its a quick payday whie using social media as a weapon.

You see it pretty clearly now. People are so consumed with wanting to crucify Meyers. They're making excuses for a reporter that did the same thing. They are most upset for Meyers over. IMO Meyers should be entitled to a monetary settlement at the least. Once the "reporter" received money for a story he's changed directions on repeatedly now. The entire dynamic changed.

Exactly. If people would start standing up to the social media outrage mobs, this shit would not happen anymore. The main problem is the mob generally gets its way once it starts in on someone. Companies (or universities in this case) don't want the negative publicity so they ll in most cases can whoever it may be, even if baseless, to get the mob off their back.

Especially in a incident where "domestic abuse" or "sexual assault" are thrown into the ring. People are real quick to act on feelings and assumptions alone and could care less about actual facts and evidence.

In this case it's basically been spun to the point, where if you lived under a rock and didnt know better, you'd swear Meyer himself had smacked Courtney Smith around personally every day the past 9 years.

 

[TheRobotDevil]

Exactly. If people would start standing up to the social media outrage mobs, this shit would not happen anymore. The main problem is the mob generally gets its way once it starts in on someone. Companies (or universities in this case) don't want the negative publicity so they ll in most cases can whoever it may be, even if baseless, to get the mob off their back.

Especially in a incident where "domestic abuse" or "sexual assault" are thrown into the ring. People are real quick to act on feelings and assumptions alone and could care less about actual facts and evidence.

In this case it's basically been spun to the point, where if you lived under a rock and didnt know better, you'd swear Meyer himself had smacked Courtney Smith around personally every day the past 9 years.

I was weay from the start. If people don't start taking Twitter for what its worth. And start holding "reporters" like McMurphy. Who appears to have bought a story. Ran an edited video and threw out a loaded tweet. Without even using a time stamp. Utilizing the way social media works to gain traction. Without anyone questioning it. Thats a problem. When he's literally changing his story including his biggest claims. Going from an arrest to an investigation.. And is ignoring everyone asking why he changed his story. Because he claimed his information came from the police...And people are in such a frenzy they are resorting to bringing up Meyers past. When this was supposed to be about the Smiths. Or they base an opinion on their interpretations rather than facts. We have an issue with the "media". If people continue to enable guys like McMurphy to exploit social media. You'll have 10 more McMurphys within a month etc....If he's being paid and acting as press. He should be held accountable point blank.

 

[osubuckeye89]

I was weay from the start. If people don't start taking Twitter for what its worth. And start holding "reporters" like McMurphy. Who appears to have bought a story. Ran an edited video and threw out a loaded tweet. Without even using a time stamp. Utilizing the way social media works to gain traction. Without anyone questioning it. Thats a problem. When he's literally changing his story including his biggest claims. Going from an arrest to an investigation.. And is ignoring everyone asking why he changed his story. Because he claimed his information came from the police...And people are in such a frenzy they are resorting to bringing up Meyers past. When this was supposed to be about the Smiths. Or they base an opinion on their interpretations rather than facts. We have an issue with the "media". If people continue to enable guys like McMurphy to exploit social media. You'll have 10 more McMurphys within a month etc....If he's being paid and acting as press. He should be held accountable point blank.

Twitter carries a lot more power than some people think. You still have the "it's just Twitter" crowd, they are the mistaken ones. Hell you could legitimately argue that Twitter/Facebook pretty much dictated the 2016 Presidential Election. It's pretty much past the point of no return, it's only gonna get worse unless Twitter happens to go belly up, even then the next social media craze would pop up.

It's not about the Smith's nor "justice for victims" it's about getting the head of the highest up personal possible, in nearly every case like this. McMurphy damn well knew what he was doing, the crowd he targeted this story toward immediately ate it up and ran with it without asking any questions. Those people are to blame in a way but McMurphy calculatedly started the shit storm. If this happened at Wake Forest or Rutgers, nobody would give a shit. People hear "top program/top coach" and want that blood on the social justice alter.

 

[WizardHawk]

I completely agree. And thats the worst part of social media being viewed as legitimate news. It thrives on public outrage. All you have to do is target someone or a university. Thats in the spotlight,that people don't like, that opposing fan bases will jump on. And its a quick payday whie using social media as a weapon.

You see it pretty clearly now. People are so consumed with wanting to crucify Meyers. They're making excuses for a reporter that did the same thing. They are most upset for Meyers over. IMO Meyers should be entitled to a monetary settlement at the least. Once the "reporter" received money for a story he's changed directions on repeatedly now. The entire dynamic changed.

First of all his name is Urban Meyer. There is no s at the end of it. If you want to sound like you have relevant input at least get his fucking name right.

And McMurphy technically doesn't work for anyone. He's paid to not work really. He was under contract when laid off by ESPN so he gets to collect his paycheck to do nothing.

He also already has a job lined up for when that contract to sit home runs out.

How ESPN Ended Up Paying Brett McMurphy To Post The Year's Biggest College Football Story On Facebook

He had a couple of long time friends help him get the story out that are pros in the business. So it was not him sitting alone in a room trying to find a way to make a fast buck after randomly picking Meyer (no s ffs).

I do find it ironic that several of you are basically accusing this reporter of fraud, lying, fabricating evidence, etc without any actual evidence of such, while at the same time desperately defending Meyer (no s) also without the facts being complete yet.

Let the story unfold and do with it as you see fit once ALL of the information is out there.

 

[WizardHawk]

I mean you are doing the exact same thing you are accusing him of. Making blanket slanderous statements with accusations that have no proof on a public forum to stir up doubt over Meyer's (yes, that's how you ad an S to his name) guilt in any part of this story.

 

[TheRobotDevil]

Twitter carries a lot more power than some people think. You still have the "it's just Twitter" crowd, they are the mistaken ones. Hell you could legitimately argue that Twitter/Facebook pretty much dictated the 2016 Presidential Election. It's pretty much past the point of no return, it's only gonna get worse unless Twitter happens to go belly up, even then the next social media craze would pop up.

It's not about the Smith's nor "justice for victims" it's about getting the head of the highest up personal possible, in nearly every case like this. McMurphy damn well knew what he was doing, the crowd he targeted this story toward immediately ate it up and ran with it without asking any questions. Those people are to blame in a way but McMurphy calculatedly started the shit storm. If this happened at Wake Forest or Rutgers, nobody would give a shit. People hear "top program/top coach" and want that blood on the social justice alter.

Some people may never truly understand that. twitter holds a massive amount of power. It can be an amazing tool. When it comes to advertising and information. But it can just as easily become an extremely destructive weapon. When used the wrong way.Which is where the majority that do not understand how it actually functions can tend to get a little lost.

All it takes for a story to get legs on twitter is a big name and a source of outrage. Then it just dominoes from there. Unfortunately most people don't question things on twitter. A reporter puts up what looks like a text. They assume its legit. Regardless of theres nothing in that text to confirm it. Ie a simple time stamp.By the standard McMurphy is using. A reporter can claim someone was arrested. And he obtained the information from police sources. And change his story later. Because there was never an actual arrest. Just a lot of allegedly and other blankets etc..

Then you get that gossip mentality. Where people assume the reporter is correct. Will make excuses for the reporter because they want to believe.And disregard that there is an actual professional investigation taking place. I prefer real evidence not the unreliable twitter court shit storm.I'm actually hoping Meyers is cleared. It brings focus to responsibility for social media reporters. And people learn from this

 

[WizardHawk]

He reported it on Facebook, not twitter.
It's URBAN MEYER (no s).
And not one person has said believe anything/everything any reporter says. Everyone is waiting for the results of the investigation. Well, that is everyone that hasn't already accused and convicted a reporter before those facts are complete.

 

[TheRobotDevil]

He reported it on Facebook, not twitter.
It's URBAN MEYER (no s).
And not one person has said believe anything/everything any reporter says. Everyone is waiting for the results of the investigation. Well, that is everyone that hasn't already accused and convicted a reporter before those facts are complete.

He's using both which is actually amusing. Because is editing his story on Facebook. While you cant edit on twitter Then I told you to get back to me when you understand the significance of a time stamp. When using social media as a media outlet. Or the difference between an arrest and an investigation. But you keep replying anyway.... Glad you're not a lawyer,reporter or working with tech tho. In the meantime sit back and learn how social media works. Why you need to question social media reports. And the dangers of Twitter court......But its all Urbans Fault....Youre welcome

 

[WizardHawk]

He's using both which is actually amusing. Because is editing his story on Facebook. While you cant edit on twitter Then I told you to get back to me when you understand the significance of a time stamp. When using social media as a media outlet. Or the difference between an arrest and an investigation. But you keep replying anyway.... Glad you're not a lawyer,reporter or working with tech tho. In the meantime sit back and learn how social media works. Why you need to question social media reports. And the dangers of Twitter court......Youre welcome

And I'll keep telling you what a twat waffle you are. Get his name right, wait for ALL of the evidence before throwing someone reporting on the story under the bus to blindly defend someone else involved in the story.

As long as you keep that total hypocrisy up I'll keep pointing it out.

 

[osubuckeye89]

Some people may never truly understand that. twitter holds a massive amount of power. It can be an amazing tool. When it comes to advertising and information. But it can just as easily become an extremely destructive weapon. When used the wrong way.Which is where the majority that do not understand how it actually functions can tend to get a little lost.

All it takes for a story to get legs on twitter is a big name and a source of outrage. Then it just dominoes from there. Unfortunately most people don't question things on twitter. A reporter puts up what looks like a text. They assume its legit. Regardless of theres nothing in that text to confirm it. Ie a simple time stamp.By the standard McMurphy is using. A reporter can claim someone was arrested. And he obtained the information from police sources. And change his story later. Because there was never an actual arrest. Just a lot of allegedly and other blankets etc..

Then you get that gossip mentality. Where people assume the reporter is correct. Will make excuses for the reporter because they want to believe.And disregard that there is an actual professional investigation taking place. I prefer real evidence not the unreliable twitter court shit storm.I'm actually hoping Meyers is cleared. It brings focus to responsibility for social media reporters. And people learn from this

The people defending Murphy are just as bad as Murphy. The logic seems to be that an attack on him is an "attack on the free press"

OK.....so we should allow the "free press" to freely go around throwing wild accusations and stirring up outrage without anything near an concrete evidence to support said accusations? With zero repercussions?

In this case indeed he weaponized social media, mostly for prospective personal gain. Basically he was allowed to do this, because he is held to no actual journalistic standards considering he is not currently employed by any reputable organization. His only downfall may be a lawsuit at the hands of Meyer or the University itself. Which im guessing is likely not to happen. So he basically gets his 15 minutes of fame and very little negative recourse. Which is total bs.

McMurphy is a prime example as to why people are questioning the for profit media more than ever. He's in the worst of the worst block of shady zero ethics "reporting"