Meyer is getting screwed

[socaljim242]

This is where I think you are confused. It also shows how much of an effect social media has on what in reality is opinion and not fact. Take Urban Meyers name out of the equation. You have a reporter that used insert random names. Making reporting an arrest he confirmed through the police. We have a text message with absolutely no confirmation. When a time stamp is tech 101.Said reporter has been paid a large amount of money. And acquired a job with Watch Sports. As a result of what wound up being misinformation. The reporter edited and changed his story. To what now is an investigation. Which is completely different. Arrest garners a lot more attention.

When one utilizes the format of social media. Outrage etc..In order to profit. And Its clear as day he used misinformation to do so. That becomes a major issue. And social media outlets need to be held responsible for their actions. The same way an actual reporter would be. And we wonder why McMurphy was fired from ESPN......

Did Smith get fired? Was he on probation? Don't you think he was a piece of shit?
Now you want to skip all that and fixate on the reporter saying he got arrested? That's what you want argue about?
This is where you go off the rails.

 

[osubuckeye89]

It drives me NUTS when people think people should be fired from their jobs/lives ruined because they don't subscribe to their own personal brand of "morals" or whatever the hell you want to call it.

Urban committed no crimes and appears to have followed to required protocol.

Of course that's not enough for the faux outrage moral police though.

Good thing their opinion really means nothing in the end.

 

[socaljim242]

Doesnt matter if Zach Smith is clean. It appears all parties involved (Urban/AD) followed proper protocol when it comes to reporting such incident.

Urban did everything he was supposed to under his contract/university requirements.

Anything else is just personal feels and whining on your behalf. Which of course means nothing in the grand scheme.

If that were true why did Urban lie? Why was Smith fired not when according to you everyone new but years later when they got word someone was looking into it? If it's a fire able offense now why wasn't it in 2015? Wouldn't they have these documents or e mails ready to show they all did what they were supposed to?

 

[TheRobotDevil]

Did Smith get fired? Was he on probation? Don't you think he was a piece of shit?
Now you want to skip all that and fixate on the reporter saying he got arrested? That's what you want argue about?
This is where you go off the rails.

Its about the reporter using false information all along. People making predetermined decisions based on false reports on social media. Rather than going by an actual investigation. Are you ok with someone reporting false information via social media. In order to profit. Without repercussions to the damages they cause? Or is this just about Urban and OSU?

 

[osubuckeye89]

If that were true why did Urban lie? Why was Smith fired not when according to you everyone new but years later when they got word someone was looking into it? If it's a fire able offense now why wasn't it in 2015? Wouldn't they have these documents or e mails ready to show they all did what they were supposed to?

you clearly do not follow along very well. You're in that group that has automatically pre determined guilt and no amount of facts that come out will change your mind. Because you dont care about facts, only what applies to your personal feelings and assumptions.

 

[socaljim242]

It drives me NUTS when people think people should be fired from their jobs/lives ruined because they don't subscribe to their own personal brand of "morals" or whatever the hell you want to call it.

Urban committed no crimes and appears to have followed to required protocol.

Of course that's not enough for the faux outrage moral police though.

Good thing their opinion really means nothing in the end.

So smith shoudln't have been fired for abusing his wife? Urban shouldn't be questioned why he was fired now but not then? Our "personal morals". I didn't know beating your wife was debatable as something you shouldn't do.

 

[TheRobotDevil]

If that were true why did Urban lie?

I believe thats called an event now. Thats for the investigators to ask

 

[osubuckeye89]

So smith shoudln't have been fired for abusing his wife? Urban shouldn't be questioned why he was fired now but not then? Our "personal morals". I didn't know beating your wife was debatable as something you shouldn't do.

The police we involved in 2015 and did nothing.

You want to fire people based on accusations and not actual facts of anything. If the police did nothing, why should Urban/Ohio State be obligated to fire anyone?

Of course I'm assuming you are in the anti-due process camp where a man accused of anything by a woman should be automatically deemed guilty.

 

[socaljim242]

Its about the reporter using false information all along. People making predetermined decisions based on false reports on social media. Rather than going by an actual investigation. Are you ok with someone reporting false information via social media. In order to profit. Without repercussions to the damages they cause? Or is this just about Urban and OSU?

This is all about Smith . Was he fired? If so for what? Do you disagree on his being fired?
Urbans in trouble because he kept the guy after knowing about his history. Just like if you managed a bank and you kept someone who you knew had thefts in their background. Now he might be in less trouble if he did report it to the AD but he's still in trouble for how much he covered for the guy.Yes, I know but the reporter.

 

[socaljim242]

The police we involved in 2015 and did nothing.

You want to fire people based on accusations and not actual facts of anything. If the police did nothing, why should Urban/Ohio State be obligated to fire anyone?

Of course I'm assuming you are in the anti-due process camp where a man accused of anything by a woman should be automatically deemed guilty.

Ok.Smith got fired now. And he wasn't arrested and never has actually been arrested. Explain that if it's not able to be done.

 

[osubuckeye89]

This is all about Smith . Was he fired? If so for what? Do you disagree on his being fired?
Urbans in trouble because he kept the guy after knowing about his history. Just like if you managed a bank and you kept someone who you knew had thefts in their background. Now he might be in less trouble if he did report it to the AD but he's still in trouble for how much he covered for the guy.Yes, I know but the reporter.

You don't realize that does not matter, thats your problem here.

The only question that matters is Did Urban follow proper protocol by contract/university standards when it came to reporting any knowings of such incident.

The question of should Zach Smith should have been fired in 2015 or not literally has nothing to do with Urban's continued employment with the university

 

[TheRobotDevil]

This is all about Smith . Was he fired? If so for what? Do you disagree on his being fired?
Urbans in trouble because he kept the guy after knowing about his history. Just like if you managed a bank and you kept someone who you knew had thefts in their background. Now he might be in less trouble if he did report it to the AD but he's still in trouble for how much he covered for the guy.Yes, I know but the reporter.

You keep going back to do you disagree Smith should have been fired? I already answered that. And you already know my reply is yes. But you're completely ignoring the topic. Take the Smiths and Urban out of the equation as well. Do you think a reporter on social media should be held accountable for his actions. When he profited off of misinformation and false reports. Knowing full well the dangers of social media?

 

[socaljim242]

You don't realize that does not matter, thats your problem here.

The only question that matters is Did Urban follow proper protocol by contract/university standards when it came to reporting any knowings of such incident.

The question of should Zach Smith should have been fired in 2015 or not literally has nothing to do with Urban's continued employment with the university

When he's his boss it does.

 

[osubuckeye89]

Ok.Smith got fired now. And he wasn't arrested and never has actually been arrested. Explain that if it's not able to be done.

He's actually been charged in 2018 with criminal trespass involving his ex-wife.

Literally nothing came of the 2015 incident.

Learn your facts and stop being a member of the faux outrage mob based on your own personal knee jerk feelings.

 

[trojanfan12]

Urban committed no crimes and appears to have followed to required protocol.

I guess, for me, the question is What did he do in 2015?

If he reported it as he was supposed to and the higher ups decided that Smith shouldn't be fired...then Meyer shouldn't be fired, but scrutiny should then fall on those above him who made the decision.

However, if it is what it appears to be and Smith was fired because the 2015 incident went public...then Meyer should be fired and so should anyone above him who knew about it in 2015.

 

[socaljim242]

You keep going back to do you disagree Smith should have been fired? I already answered that. And you already know my reply is yes. But you're completely ignoring the topic. Take the Smiths and Urban out of the equation as well. Do you think a reporter on social media should be held accountable for his actions. When he profited off of misinformation and false reports. Knowing full well the dangers of social media?

If a reporter gets a bad reputation he wont have a job long. Since smith got fired and Urbans on leave I'd say this reporter has done well for himself.

 

[osubuckeye89]

When he's his boss it does.

Nope. That's nothing but a personal opinion/feeling on your behalf. Learn the difference between feels and facts.

 

[TheRobotDevil]

You don't realize that does not matter, thats your problem here.

The only question that matters is Did Urban follow proper protocol by contract/university standards when it came to reporting any knowings of such incident.

The question of should Zach Smith should have been fired in 2015 or not literally has nothing to do with Urban's continued employment with the university

Which no one knows because they are following the false information. Of a reporter that has changed his story repeatedly. This is starting to look a lot more like its about peoples opinion on Urban and or OSU. Than the actual situation.Funny how Urban catches hell. But a reporter acting n the same manner people are up in arms about. Is excused because it serves an agenda. This is why they need to get these kangaroo courts and social media reporters in check. At least now you know if someone says Urban lied. You can write it off as an event

 

[socaljim242]

He's actually been charged in 2018 with criminal trespass involving his ex-wife.

Literally nothing came of the 2015 incident.

Learn your facts and stop being a member of the faux outrage mob based on your own personal knee jerk feelings.

You act like nothing happened in between.

Nov. 9-12, 2015: Powell police investigate a claim by Courtney Smith of menacing by stalking by Zach Smith. No charges are filed, but Zach Smith is issued a restraining order on Nov. 10. Courtney Smith files for divorce two days later.

Dec. 19, 2017: Zach Smith is given criminal trespass warning after reportedly making "harassment/threats" at 1:30 a.m. on Dec. 17. McMurphy reported he tried to enter Courtney Smith's residence. No files were charged.

May 12, 2018: Powell police cite Zach Smith with misdemeanor criminal trespass after a dispute with his wife. The two argued over where Zach Smith should have dropped off his son. McMurphy reported Smith's driving into the driveway of his ex-wife's apartment violated the 2015 warning.


July 18, 2018: Zach Smith appears in Delaware County Municipal Court for a pretrial hearing related to the May trespass charge. Court records show Smith pleaded not guilty to the charge on June 5.

July 20, 2018: Courtney Smith is granted an order of protection against her ex-husband that prohibits him from getting within 500 feet of her. The protective order was filed in Delaware County after she claimed she feared for her safety.

 

[osubuckeye89]

Which no one knows because they are following the false information. Of a reporter that has changed his story repeatedly. This is starting to look a lot more like its about peoples opinion on Urban and or OSU. Than the actual situation.Funny how Urban catches hell. But a reporter acting n the same manner people are up in arms about. Is excused because it serves an agenda. This is why they need to get these kangaroo courts and social media reporters in check. At least now you know if someone says Urban lied. You can write it off as an event

They literally want Ohio State nuked because they didn't fire a guy in 2015 when even the police did nothing about the manner.

And i've said it before, it seems like they actually believe Smith being fired would somehow magically stop him from ever beating his wife. Another ridiculous emotional assumption.