Make Starting Lineup Of Six Best Players Of Each Team's History

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Probably like this...

G - Tugnutt
D - Coffey
D - J. Schultz
F - Nugent-Hopkins
F - Messier
F - Hall

lol...

/Where the heck is Esa Tikkanen?

 

[sbb122]

Can't disagree with that since you have the LW and RW but scary to think the Centers behind Lemiuex in Francis, Crosby and Malkin.

Anyway I would rather have either Randy Carlyle or Murphy (shown earlier) on D.

I was down to Carlyle or Burrows, Murphy is my most hated Penguin of all time so i could not bring myself to slot him in.

 

[elocomotive]

lol...

/Where the heck is Esa Tikkanen?

Oh man... I missed an empty net by forgetting that one.

 

[Swamp Dragon]

Mike Gartner can't catch a goddamn break in this room, I swear

I was doing centermen Yeah Gartner should probably be ahead of Bondra

 

[Otis B. Driftwood]

Probably like this...

G - Tugnutt
D - Coffey
D - J. Schultz
F - Nugent-Hopkins
F - Messier
F - Hall

 

[Swamp Dragon]

I think the Oilers could have a pretty good team also.

Habs too

The Habs fourth and fifth teams are probably better than the Canucks first team

 

[juliansteed]

G:Tom Barasso
D:Paul Coffey
D: Larry Murphy
F:Mario Lemieux
F: Jaromir Jagr
F:Sidney Crosby

Thats gotta be hard to top

Not even going to rick kehoe, kevin stevens, joe mullen, pierre larouche, ron francis, Ulf Samuelson, Mark Recchi

If you're going to include honorable mentions, I think Geno needs to be listed as well. When Luc Robitaille can't even crack your all-time top 5 forwards, that's pretty damn impressive!

 

[DragonfromTO]

I think Barasso is near the bottom of the barrel for best franchise goalies.

Here's a great argument against your case. From 1990-1992, these Pen all-time greats played together - Murphy, Coffey, and Barasso all on the back end for the Pens.

In 1990-1991, they ranked 4th to last in goals allowed. In 1991-1992, they ranked 3rd to last in goals allowed. Barasso was ranked 10th and 19th in save percentage in those seasons. If those players stack up comparably against the other great defensive combos of all-time, how come they can't even stack up favorably against the players in their day?

Those teams were carried by offense. Scary good offense. Lemieux was off the charts, Stevens was ridiculous, Jagr was on the team, Joe Mullen, and they had lots of role players. Goals galore.

Paul Coffey was legit. Barrasso and Murphy on the back end scares nobody.

Off the top of my head I'd say he's probably better than Anaheim, Arizona, Calgary, Carolina, Columbus, probably Florida, Minnesota, Nashville, San Jose, St. Louis, Tampa, Washington, Winnipeg. That puts him closer to the middle than the bottom.

 

[esls79]

For the Minnesota North Stars, I'd go with the following:

LW - JP Parise
RW - Dino Ciccarelli
C - Neal Broten
D - Curt Giles
D - Lou Nanne
G - Jon Casey

It pained me to leave off stalwarts like Willi Plett, Basil McRae, Enrico Ciccone, Shane Churla, etc. Those teams of the mid to late 80's were an absolute shit show. I would include Modano, but he had his best years in Dallas.

And Fuck Norm Green.

 

[juliansteed]

Irbe
Hannan
Rathje
Thornton
Marleau
Nolan

 

[DragonfromTO]

I was doing centermen Yeah Gartner should probably be ahead of Bondra

Yeah I assumed that since the OP listed only 3 "forward" spots that people were doing it that way, but I'm glad that most seem to be using proper positions.

 

[elocomotive]

Off the top of my head I'd say he's probably better than Anaheim, Arizona, Calgary, Carolina, Columbus, probably Florida, Minnesota, Nashville, San Jose, St. Louis, Tampa, Washington, Winnipeg. That puts him closer to the middle than the bottom.

I'd have better goalies from about half those franchises - Anaheim, Florida, Nashville, St. Louis, and Washington just off the bat.

Sounds like a new thread - top 30 best franchise goalies ranked.

 

[juliansteed]

Off the top of my head I'd say he's probably better than Anaheim, Arizona, Calgary, Carolina, Columbus, probably Florida, Minnesota, Nashville, San Jose, St. Louis, Tampa, Washington, Winnipeg. That puts him closer to the middle than the bottom.

I don't entirely disagree with the point you are making but I'd probably dispute the ones in bold.

 

[juliansteed]

I'd have better goalies from about half those franchises - Anaheim, Florida, Nashville, St. Louis, and Washington just off the bat.

Sounds like a new thread - top 30 best franchise goalies ranked.

IMO Calgary is the most obvious one with both Kipper and Vernon to choose from. But hey, at least we both picked St. Louis.

 

[esls79]

JS Giguere > Barasso

 

[Cobiemonster]

Kings:

G: Jonathan Quick
D: Drew Doughty
D: Rob Blake
F: Anze Kopitar
F: Luc Robitaille
F: Wayne Gretzky

 

[esls79]

Kings:

G: Jonathan Quick
D: Drew Doughty
D: Rob Blake
F: Anze Kopitar
F: Luc Robitaille
F: Wayne Gretzky

You forgot Marcel Dionne

 

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You forgot Marcel Dionne

You beat me to it esls...

 

[elocomotive]

IMO Calgary is the most obvious one with both Kipper and Vernon to choose from. But hey, at least we both picked St. Louis.

I gave it a quick glance. Vernon - yes. 5-time all-star.

Agree with esls on Giguere.

Kolzig, CuJo, Niemi, the Beezer, Rinne all better in my opinion. Close call on a few of them and tough to compare goalies of different eras.

That's why I think all-star teams are really a good comparison tool. Barasso only had two. And I'm not Pen hating here either, I'd put Kolzig near the bottom of the list as well.

 

[Voltaire26]

G - Terry Sawchuck
D - Red Kelly
D - Nicholas Lindstrom
LW - Henrik Zetterberg
C - Stevie Yzerman
RW - Gordie Howe


When you look at the back up pretty impressive as well. Not Montreal Good, but better than anyone else.