Lebron admits he has never given it his all

[Shanemansj13]

Because his FTA have declined and he has not 'improved' his FT%, he has lost 1 point per game , ceteris paribus. (2012 vs 2010) This has been offset due to the fact that he has improved his 2pt and 3pt %'s. However, there is a point of diminishing returns, given his attempt numbers, how much does he need to improve his 2pt or 3pt % to compensate that 'lost point' . -- 2 pointer up to 63.6 % -- 3 pointer up to ~50.5% . Now I think we will all agree that options is not feasible. I believe he might could move up to 63.6% on 2pts, but not without defenders starting to foul him a lot more-- which would then bring us back to the FT issue, to begin with.

The one pt irrelevant. The rest of his game is almost as good as it can get, that is why he is gonna work on FTs now. You really think he would work on FTs before FG pct and post game which obviously more important and shows, with his best shooting season of his career.

He shot more the years before even if shooting a lower percentage and shot more FTs. Hence the one pt difference. Except for 3 pointers which he doesn't attempt a bunch anyway.

 

[LeaderOCola]

The one pt irrelevant. The rest of his game is almost as good as it can get, that is why he is gonna work on FTs now. You really think he would work on FTs before FG pct and post game which obviously more important and shows, with his best shooting season of his career.

He shot more the years before even if shooting a lower percentage and shot more FTs. Hence the one pt difference. Except for 3 pointers which he doesn't attempt a bunch anyway.

Averages per game, how do they work? Obviously points, rebounds, etc vary per game. Think of it instead as 82 points over the season.

PS

6/2/2011
2-4 FT
(L) 95-93

6/5/2011
4-4 FT
(W) 88-86

6/7/2011
2-4 FT
(L) 86-83 {ok, I concede you'd still be down 1, but who knows what happens}


Imagine what could have been different in that series if he had 'fixed the problem' earlier in his career?

 

[Shanemansj13]

There are also a million different things they could do in those games. He also could of made one more shot, with his FG pct being lower then. FTs are just one of the things that help win games, but NOT the most important

 

[Sman2011]

Sure he could go 50/40/90.....However, he'd rather have career stats of 49 fg pct, 33.7 3pt, and 74.7 ft pct. It's more fun to shoot airballs from the ft line during the finals against S.A then to be clutch....

Here's the problem LeRoids doesn't get. Steroids makes you run faster and jump higher. However roids can't fix, Lebron's UGLY shot....

That's what's so great about Kobe he's managed to be the best player in basketball all these years without roids.

Peace!!!

 

[bksballer89]

Averages per game, how do they work? Obviously points, rebounds, etc vary per game. Think of it instead as 82 points over the season.

PS

6/2/2011
2-4 FT
(L) 95-93

6/5/2011
4-4 FT
(W) 88-86

6/7/2011
2-4 FT
(L) 86-83 {ok, I concede you'd still be down 1, but who knows what happens}


Imagine what could have been different in that series if he had 'fixed the problem' earlier in his career?

None of games which they lost was because of free throw shooting. We choked game 2 away and in game 4 we just didn't execute in the final 2 minutes. In every close game you can look at the stats and blame someone for missing 2 fts and say you would have won the game with their 2 fts because it is rare for any team in the league to shoot 100% from the line.

In G2 of the 2011 finals the Heat missed 8 fts but yeah let's just point out LBJ missed fts even though Wade missed 4 fts while Chalmers missed 2 also. In G4 Bosh missed 2 fts and Wade missed 3 but yeah let's just once again point out LBJ missed fts and act like he was the only one on the team missing fts.

 

[LeaderOCola]

In G2 of the 2011 finals the Heat missed 8 fts but yeah let's just point out LBJ missed fts even though Wade missed 4 fts while Chalmers missed 2 also. In G4 Bosh missed 2 fts and Wade missed 3 but yeah let's just once again point out LBJ missed fts and act like he was the only one on the team missing fts.

here's the thing. none of the other guys you mentioned (or the TV networks marketing them) are believing / proclaiming themselves to be the GOAT.

 

[Black Adam]

here's the thing. none of the other guys you mentioned (or the TV networks marketing them) are believing / proclaiming themselves to be the GOAT.

 

[Lakers+USC=#1]

Free throws are the least important part of his game in terms of what he needed to improve. If he shot as bad as DeAndre or Dwight then I would get your point about him needing to work on it sooner. He is not a bad ft shooter. LBJ did the right thing by addressing his mid range shot, 3 pt shot, and post game before his fts. He wouldn't be as great as he is now if he focused on fts first instead of those aspects of his game. LBJ biggest struggles from the line came between 06-08 when he shot 73%, 69%, and 71%. In the years since 08 he shot 78%, 77%,76%, 77%, and 75% so there has been improvement since those 3 years when he struggled to shoot 70% as in 3 of his last 5 seasons he's been really close to 80%.

Here is the truth of the matter. If LBJ worked on ft shooting instead of the more important things as you suggested he would then he would still be ringless because we don't beat OKC if LBJ post game and mid range shot never improved. You can get around shooting once you're not bad enough where they're intentionally hacking you like they do with DeAndre, Evans, and Howard.

You dont think he had enough time to add ft shooting for 10 years? For a player that always have the ball in his hand at the end of the game, ft's are very important. Why you think Kobe was the closer and not shaq?

 

[Lakers+USC=#1]

here's the thing. none of the other guys you mentioned (or the TV networks marketing them) are believing / proclaiming themselves to be the GOAT.

What I have learned from lebron fans, they dont understand this.

 

[bksballer89]

You dont think he had enough time to add ft shooting for 10 years? For a player that always have the ball in his hand at the end of the game, ft's are very important. Why you think Kobe was the closer and not shaq?

And once again IF LBJ was a poor shooter as Shaq was you would have a point. LBJ is a 75% ft shooter. Is it great? No but are teams are going to hack some one who's been shooting close to 80 % in his last 5 seasons? No

Attempting to compare LBJ ft shooting to Shaq is poor judgement on your part.

 

[True Lakers Fan]

Shat basically did the same thing before he left the Lakers when he fired his free throw coach and said he didn't need to work on free throws because he was good enough as he was

 

[Shanemansj13]

here's the thing. none of the other guys you mentioned (or the TV networks marketing them) are believing / proclaiming themselves to be the GOAT.

The facts are those 2 FTs don't determine 48 games and this is true for any player. LBJ haters will bitch no matter what.

Not as good defender, bitch. Improves defense, can guard 1-5.

Not as good shooter, bitch. Improves 3 pt and 2 pt fg pct.

Has no post game, bitch. Improves post game to an unstoppable level.

Has a flawless year other than FTs, bitch. He will just use as motivation and improve that also.

Hate to it, but nobody is perfect and with media thinking he is...he isn't. What is next to bitch about??? Winning too many MVP awards and being too much of a team player<---around been bitched about.

 

[LeaderOCola]

And once again IF LBJ was a poor shooter as Shaq was you would have a point. LBJ is a 75% ft shooter. Is it great? No but are teams are going to hack some one who's been shooting close to 80 % in his last 5 seasons? No

Attempting to compare LBJ ft shooting to Shaq is poor judgement on your part.

Since his conversion rate inside 2 feet is higher than 80%, they certainly should. Simple math.

 

[LeaderOCola]

Shat basically did the same thing before he left the Lakers when he fired his free throw coach and said he didn't need to work on free throws because he was good enough as he was

 

[True Lakers Fan]

For me it's a no brainer because if you haven't developed good free throw shooting skills after being in the NBA for as long as Shaq Onea(who was one of them), Dwight Howard(who was another guilty party) and Lebron James - then you are one lazy asshole

 

[Lakers+USC=#1]

And once again IF LBJ was a poor shooter as Shaq was you would have a point. LBJ is a 75% ft shooter. Is it great? No but are teams are going to hack some one who's been shooting close to 80 % in his last 5 seasons? No

Attempting to compare LBJ ft shooting to Shaq is poor judgement on your part.

Bk, why do you always take things out of context? My point was, Kobe had to be a good ft shooter because he was the closer and for Lebron being the closer, he had to get better at the ft line.

 

[Shanemansj13]

For me it's a no brainer because if you haven't developed good free throw shooting skills after being in the NBA for as long as Shaq Onea(who was one of them), Dwight Howard(who was another guilty party) and Lebron James - then you are one lazy asshole

I wouldn't say 75% to 80% is not developong good free throw skills. He is just not GREAT at that like he is everything else. Can't be great at everything, but he does develop it, he will.

 

[LeaderOCola]

I wouldn't say 75% to 80% is not developong good free throw skills. He is just not GREAT at that like he is everything else. Can't be great at everything, but he does develop it, he will.

so 'league average' is 'good' ?

 

[True Lakers Fan]

I wouldn't say 75% to 80% is not developong good free throw skills. He is just not GREAT at that like he is everything else. Can't be great at everything, but he does develop it, he will.

I would - you are standing at the the line and you have two free throws with no pressure at all from the opponents and you are given plenty of time. 75-80 in high school barely a C average with 80-90 being B for good and 90-100 is A - for excellent,

 

[piss-tons]

Since his conversion rate inside 2 feet is higher than 80%, they certainly should. Simple math.

Nice stat, but its hard to foul someone as strong as Lebron that close without it being an and-1 unless you give a hard foul, and if the refs call flagrant its certainly not worth it. Where did you get the stat though? I tried to find shooting splits for historical players but I only see them go back only to 1996.