LBJ Will Forgo Money for Rings

[Black Adam]

These people are pathetic. But other guys are accused of r*pe and are adored, yet a guy made one bad "decision" and he is hated or maybe it's bc he is the best. Makes so much sense.

lol, you guys act like this is the ONLY thing he did wrong. the guy's arrogance is flat-out sickening. and you wonder why i'd hate the day he ever donned Lakers colors(IF that ever happened, and i'm hoping it DOESN'T)...

let the Heat keep the self-serving s.o.b. we don't need him. or wherever he lands THEY can deal with it...

 

[LogicMan]

Rule, Kold,

yeah, I guess I did not explain myself. Riley will take the sign and trade deal in a second over just watching LBJ go. Looks like some other posters understood my point.

Lebron has the leverage......but in some ways Riley has some too, and he would prefer to get back picks and lets say Deandre Jordan vs watch LBJ walk away. There are not many GM's that just let a free agent of that caliber get away w/o assets.

 

[Jims_Doors]

Most simplest?!?

thefreedictionary.com/simplest‎

Not involved or complicated; easy: a simple task.

you're welcome

 

[Shoveyjoe]

lol, you guys act like this is the ONLY thing he did wrong. the guy's arrogance is flat-out sickening. and you wonder why i'd hate the day he ever donned Lakers colors(IF that ever happened, and i'm hoping it DOESN'T)...

let the Heat keep the self-serving s.o.b. we don't need him. or wherever he lands THEY can deal with it...

Yea because Kobe is the model of humility. Lol

 

[Shoveyjoe]

a SAINT you say...?:rollseyes:

wow...

Drugs ... Nope
Alcohol. Nope
Hitting women ... Nope
Gambling... Nope
Baby momma.... Nope
DUI... Nope
Raping women... nope

 

[Jims_Doors]

I knew you was a fuckin fag boy.

Almost 24hrs later and this personal attack against BOT is still up.

I call someone a bandwagoner and it gets deleted.

 

[LogicMan]

Cmon guys, get some perspective here. LBJ is self centered, but on the good vs bad scale of what other nba stars have in their closet he might actually be on the good side.

Logic and perspective. Quit the name calling. Talk strategy

 

[Shoveyjoe]

Cmon guys, get some perspective here. LBJ is self centered, but on the good vs bad scale of what other nba stars have in their closet he might actually be on the good side.

Logic and perspective. Quit the name calling. Talk strategy

Logic and perspective are not welcome here.

 

[lakersrule]

Rule, Kold,

yeah, I guess I did not explain myself. Riley will take the sign and trade deal in a second over just watching LBJ go. Looks like some other posters understood my point.

Lebron has the leverage......but in some ways Riley has some too, and he would prefer to get back picks and lets say Deandre Jordan vs watch LBJ walk away. There are not many GM's that just let a free agent of that caliber get away w/o assets.

And you completely misunderstand mine. I agree that Riley would likely rather sign and trade Lebron for Jordan/picks than lose him for nothing. However, Bot seems to think that Riley would actually trade Lebron to the Clippers for nothing. His scenario has Lebron running with a "young solid center, explosive PF and sick PG". That's crazy talk. What else do the Clippers have that Riley would trade for?

In addition, this would be a different scenario than what happened with Miami. Miami had the cap room to sign Lebron straight up. There was no need to sign and trade. The Clippers aren't in that same position. The only way the Clippers can get Lebron is through a sign and trade unless he signed a very cheap contract.

This get backs to Riley not going to trade Lebron for nothing. Riley would have the leverage when dealing with the Clippers. Lebron can't say to Riley "trade me to the Clippers or I'll opt out and sign straight up with them." The Clippers don't have the cap space to be able to afford him unless he took a major pay cut.

 

[lakersrule]

Logic and perspective are not welcome here.

They most certainly are. Not every poster gets into the Lebron name-calling.

 

[gordontrue]

And you completely misunderstand mine. I agree that Riley would likely rather sign and trade Lebron for Jordan/picks than lose him for nothing. However, Bot seems to think that Riley would actually trade Lebron to the Clippers for nothing. His scenario has Lebron running with a "young solid center, explosive PF and sick PG". That's crazy talk. What else do the Clippers have that Riley would trade for?

In addition, this would be a different scenario than what happened with Miami. Miami had the cap room to sign Lebron straight up. There was no need to sign and trade. The Clippers aren't in that same position. The only way the Clippers can get Lebron is through a sign and trade unless he signed a very cheap contract.

This get backs to Riley not going to trade Lebron for nothing. Riley would have the leverage when dealing with the Clippers. Lebron can't say to Riley "trade me to the Clippers or I'll opt out and sign straight up with them." The Clippers don't have the cap space to be able to afford him unless he took a major pay cut.

By definition, you cannot sign and trade for "nothing", so obviously the scenario presented here is not signing and trading for nothing.

 

[lakersrule]

By definition, you cannot sign and trade for "nothing", so obviously the scenario presented here is not signing and trading for nothing.

By nothing I mean shitty players. Not hard to figure that out. You really think Riley would trade Lebron to the Clippers for Jared Dudley and Matt Barnes?

 

[lakersrule]

It is fun to speculate on trades and such, but do it with some level of rationality.

 

[Jims_Doors]

I just find it hard to believe that everything that Riley's done, LeBron would straight up opt out and leave Miami high and dry. I just don't see it happening.

His legit reasons for leaving Cleveland far outnumber the ones he could give if he left Miami.

 

[gordontrue]

It is fun to speculate on trades and such, but do it with some level of rationality.

But the level of rationality is inversely proportional to the level of fun

 

[lakersrule]

But the level of rationality is inversely proportional to the level of fun

true.

 

[lakersrule]

I just find it hard to believe that everything that Riley's done, LeBron would straight up opt out and leave Miami high and dry. I just don't see it happening.

I agree. I also find it hard to believe that Riley would trade Lebron to another team without getting something back of real significance.

 

[LogicMan]

Pat Riley will do what is necessary . If Lebron wants to move on, Riley will want something out of it. No decent GM (including Danny) should let a star move on and end up with nothing.

There are many options ahead. Each entity has some leverage. Not new news

 

[lakersrule]

Pat Riley will do what is necessary . If Lebron wants to move on, Riley will want something out of it. No decent GM (including Danny) should let a star move on and end up with nothing.

There are many options ahead. Each entity has some leverage. Not new news

The leverage is dependent on the other team involved. Lebron doesn't have the leverage with regards to the Clippers. He can't just sign there because they don't have the cap space. No decent GM is trading Lebron without getting something of real significance back. That's my point. Riley isn't trading Lebron to the Clippers unless Jordan, Blake, or CP3 are part of that trade.

 

[LogicMan]

Which is why I suggested Jordan. It's better than nothing , and if Lbj wants to help out both teams, and get next to Paul and Blake, it's a better outcome for Miami than getting nothing