Kyrie Irving is now a...

[CodeBreaker]

Bla bla bla.

Call me when Kyrie wins an MVP award, let alone 2.

Kyrie is a great player, considering his age, but let's not forget how alien-like Curry can be.

 

[trojanfan12]

I get that everyone like to compares LeBron and Jordan. That makes sense.

Actually, comparing him to Magic makes more sense.

 

[trojanfan12]

I notice that you don't dispute that Curry is better than Irving. It's why we end up talking about something pointless like Irving's stats and accomplishments at a certain age.

You'll find that the vast majority of his posts are pointless.

 

[trojanfan12]

Curry only had a team that was ranked 1 in defense and offense...how could he manage

Good thing too...since he had nothing to do with either of those rankings.

 

[trojanfan12]

It's always irrelevant to me accomplishments achieved at certain ages. I think the fairest judge of talent is the players at their peak. I don't think we've seen peak Irving yet, but what he's accomplished so far is impressive.

The reason I disregard accomplishments at certain ages is because the peak is what matters, and how long they've sustained that excellence. For example, take a look at these two players:

Age 22
Player A: 20.6 ppg, 11.9 reb, 2.7 blks, 1.4 assts, 1.2 steals
Player B: 20.7 ppg, 14,2 reb, 2.1 blks, 1.4 assts, 0.9 steals

From those numbers who would end up to be the superior player?

Player A is Hakeem Olajuwon
Player B is Dwight Howard

Kyrie Irving is better than both of those guys. - Wiggy and lebron23james

 

[lebron23james]

Good thing too...since he had nothing to do with either of those rankings.

Def not on the defensive side that's for sure lol

 

[trojanfan12]

Def not on the defensive side that's for sure lol

And yet he's still a better defender than Kyrie.

 

[lebron23james]

And yet he's still a better defender than Kyrie.

Kyrie lit him up in the finals

 

[trojanfan12]

Kyrie lit him up in the finals

Which has nothing to do with whether or not Curry is a better defender. There's literally no debate about that.

 

[Bulletz]

Kyrie lit him up in the finals

He had a nice finals man, but Jeeeeesus it's not the only sample we have of Curry and Irving.

 

[lebron23james]

He had a nice finals man, but Jeeeeesus it's not the only sample we have of Curry and Irving.

Agreed, looking at their overall playoffs stats

Irving shoots a better fg%, 3pt% has a higher PER, a higher win share and turns the ball over at half the rate and1 curry does...turnovers is one of the worst traits of a pg imo...

 

[Bulletz]

Agreed, looking at their overall playoffs stats

Irving shoots a better fg%, 3pt% has a higher PER, a higher win share and turns the ball over at half the rate and1 curry does...turnovers is one of the worst traits of a pg imo...

I mean Curry averages more pts, rebounds, assists and steals in the playoffs that Kyrie, but that's neither here nor there. Curry is a better defender.

 

[lebron23james]

I mean Curry averages more pts, rebounds, assists and steals in the playoffs that Kyrie, but that's neither here nor there. Curry is a better defender.

Curry defensive win share last playoffs was 0.7 and kyrie was 0.8

(both pretty bad but Kyrie was better)

Stats don't lie

 

[Bulletz]

Curry defensive win share last playoffs was 0.7 and kyrie was 0.8

(both pretty bad but Kyrie was better)

Stats don't lie

Are you only concerning yourself with the playoffs here?

 

[lebron23james]

Are you only concerning yourself with the playoffs here?

Yea

 

[Bulletz]

Yea

Oh. Well Curry is a better defender based on averages from playoffs combined with those pesky other 82 games played prior to the playoffs each year.

 

[Bulletz]

It's closer than a lot of people think though, I'm sure.

 

[Hambombs]

NBA Champion
Olympic Gold Medalist
FIBA Champion
FIBA MVP
3x All Star
All Star Game MVP
All-NBA 3rd Team
3 Point Champion
Rookie of the Year
All-Rookie First Team
Rising Stars Challenge MVP
2x Eastern Conference Champion
Highest scoring 2nd option in Nba finals history

He's 24.

Thats the coolest fucking story i ever heard in my life, thats insane. Can i hear it again? Do you have time? (Seth from superbad)

 

[Hambombs]

Curry defensive win share last playoffs was 0.7 and kyrie was 0.8

(both pretty bad but Kyrie was better)

Stats don't lie

Curry has been way better over the last 2 seasons. Youre only
Comparing a guy who was literally playing on one leg

 

[Hambombs]

Agreed, looking at their overall playoffs stats

Irving shoots a better fg%, 3pt% has a higher PER, a higher win share and turns the ball over at half the rate and1 curry does...turnovers is one of the worst traits of a pg imo...

Dude curry has shot way better in his 1st 2 years in the league than irving has as his best FG%. So no youre completely wrong. Also what season has irving averaged 30+ points with a 50% FG% 45% and 90% Free throw%. Im still waiting..