Judge Recommends Suspension of 6 Games for Deshaun Watson

[Cincyfan78]

Ben was accused of actual r*pe. Watson was accused of agreesively soliciting sexual favors. We don't know the exact nature of all 26 incidents.

Again, what punishment do you recommend for a player with no prior history of misconduct where no criminal charges were filed

The whole "no prior" thing goes out the window when, at least, 26 women come forward. Stop using a strawman argument. Girl #1 is the 1st time, 2-26 are all incidents after the prior. The fact that people failed to find out about this disgusting behavior until after the fact is absolutely irrelevant. It absolutely points to a repeated, offending, pattern.

Like I said - I would have likely suspended him for the year. I believe at that point the statute of limitations would have run out - and the NFL can move forward knowing that none of the prior issues can continue to aggravate the process.

FWIW - I thought Ben got off too light as well, and that was like 20 years ago...considering all that has changed - at some point players need to start being held accountable for their actions. We are talking about a league where guys are suspended for years for marijuana or 1 parlay bet, and yet can beat on their wives, girlfriends, women, without fear of repercussion. Something is completely off.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

Unserious timeline we live in

 

[jarntt]

I think the NFL appeals and Goodell ups it to 8 or doesn't appeal at all. It isn't a good look to have an independent judge rule 6 games and increase it on your own all the way to a year or to indefinite. It makes a mockery of the process that we all already know is a mockery but the NFL is pretending isn't.

 

[jarntt]

Unserious timeline we live in

"Judge Sue L. Robinson’s decision also says Deshaun Watson must get all his massage therapy from club therapists, per source"

Who's next ?

 

[jarntt]

 

[molsaniceman]

"Judge Sue L. Robinson’s decision also says Deshaun Watson must get all his massage therapy from club therapists, per source"

Who's next ?

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she can rub me down anytime

 

[molsaniceman]

weed is bad dept

 

[futballiscool]

The whole "no prior" thing goes out the window when, at least, 26 women come forward. Stop using a strawman argument. Girl #1 is the 1st time, 2-26 are all incidents after the prior. The fact that people failed to find out about this disgusting behavior until after the fact is absolutely irrelevant. It absolutely points to a repeated, offending, pattern.

Like I said - I would have likely suspended him for the year. I believe at that point the statute of limitations would have run out - and the NFL can move forward knowing that none of the prior issues can continue to aggravate the process.

FWIW - I thought Ben got off too light as well, and that was like 20 years ago...considering all that has changed - at some point players need to start being held accountable for their actions. We are talking about a league where guys are suspended for years for marijuana or 1 parlay bet, and yet can beat on their wives, girlfriends, women, without fear of repercussion. Something is completely off.

It's not a strawman. I bring that up because if he had some type of history and had been given some type of a warning I would view it differently. The 20 plus accusations does establish a pattern but without criminal charges or hearing each individual case it's hard to determine what the pattern is.
I think the suspension is fair.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

 

[fastforward]

I was hoping he'd get 1 night of rehabilitation.

 

[molsaniceman]

I was hoping he'd get 1 night of rehabilitation.

he will soon
Pelissero also reported Robinson's decision requires Watson not have massages other than ones directed by club personnel.

 

[Used 2 B Hu]

Dang, all Brady did was let the air out of some balls and he got four games

 

[Cincyfan78]

It's not a strawman. I bring that up because if he had some type of history and had been given some type of a warning I would view it differently. The 20 plus accusations does establish a pattern but without criminal charges or hearing each individual case it's hard to determine what the pattern is.
I think the suspension is fair.

Again - There is absolutely history when it's 60 massages over a near 2 year period in which at least 26 women had an adverse encounter. Just because someone didn't catch him with woman #1 or #2 doesn't mean there isn't some type of history. His history is exactly what transpired: 26 accusations. They didn't all happen at once. It happened over a span of time. That's history. Trying to present it any other way is 100% strawman.

And again - criminal charges have absolutely zero bearing on the NFL CBA or outcomes of their hearings. Agree, disagree, that's fine - but you do not have to be charged to be suspended.

Conversely, you can argue, based on your own approach of needing some type of "conviction", that him settling with nearly every single accuser is more than enough evidence to not only establish history, but a wrongful pattern that deserves punishment from the NFL, which is free to do so with/without any kind of criminal conviction as his actions clearly violated women, and clearly violated the CBA/personal conduct, and Clearly have put the NFL in an untenable situation. I mean, people without history or pattern simply do not go around carrying NDA's for massages and then only threaten the women afterwards with them when they don't acquiesce to the actions he performed....I mean....come on...

 

[fastforward]

Browns likely out of the Garoppolo sweepstakes.

 

[Used 2 B Hu]

I was hoping he'd get 1 night of rehabilitation.

"That doesn't sound so bad!"

 

[Superbelt]

Unserious timeline we live in

Considering the Texans complicity in what he was doing in Houston, and Cleveland's not caring about any of that to the tune of $46 million dollars a year....

 

[Fountain City Blues]

Considering the Texans complicity in what he was doing in Houston, and Cleveland's not caring about any of that to the tune of $46 million dollars a year....

About half the NFL wanted to sign up for the Watson circus as well.

 

[dtgold88]

What I said from the start. Won’t be an appeal from either side. That’s a good deal for Watson

In the sense it could have been a lot worse, sure.

 

[seattlefan75]

Those girls were asking for it the way they were rubbing him down with lotion.....

*takes his dick out in front of the massage therapists

Well it wasn't violent

-Judge

 

[Superbelt]

Judge Sue to Deshaun: