Joe Mixon About To Get The Ray Rice Treatment

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Stephen A loves woman beaters though... Been huggin on Mayweather's nuts for years.

Mayweather is one of the few Michigan products I am ashamed of. With that said, a lot of boxers have had domestic issues, this includes Sugar Ray Robinson, Lamotta and Monzon.

 

[WizardHawk]

You're really getting into a grey area here. What's the cut off for being able to physically confront another human being. Is it ok for me to hit ronda rousey back because she can knock me out? Can I even hit her first since she will likely turn around and beat the shit out of me? I don't know anything about mixon, but it took something major for him to lose his shit and hit his girl in a crowded room. Some people are VERY good an inflicting mental abuse on others and maybe he'd just had enough. Now, you can probably argue that he should have just severed all contact with her and avoided this altogether, but I don't know the whole story either.

Again, you can create all sorts of what ifs and I already clearly said I have helped put together evidence to defend men who have hit women in casinos I worked with. I can't be more clear. I've literally seen dozens of these kinds of cases in my career and know well where those lines are in the eyes of law enforcement and the courts.

This particular case comes nowhere near justifiable for the contact returned. Her contact, while being the first physical contact made in the footage released (no idea what happened outside before this video) was quite weak. There is no one that can say a college football running back that takes hard physical contact on a daily basis felt threatened in any way or he's the biggest fucking pussy in the history of football.

 

[romeo212000]

You're really getting into a grey area here. What's the cut off for being able to physically confront another human being. Is it ok for me to hit ronda rousey back because she can knock me out? Can I even hit her first since she will likely turn around and beat the shit out of me? I don't know anything about mixon, but it took something major for him to lose his shit and hit his girl in a crowded room. Some people are VERY good an inflicting mental abuse on others and maybe he'd just had enough. Now, you can probably argue that he should have just severed all contact with her and avoided this altogether, but I don't know the whole story either.

Both parties made poor and life altering decisions that night. Both parties deserved consequences for their actions. I hope both learned from their poor decisions and are better people as they move forward into adulthood. Neither party's poor decisions should deny them a second chance imo provides they both do exactly that.

 

[romeo212000]

Again, you can create all sorts of what ifs and I already clearly said I have helped put together evidence to defend men who have hit women in casinos I worked with. I can't be more clear. I've literally seen dozens of these kinds of cases in my career and know well where those lines are in the eyes of law enforcement and the courts.

This particular case comes nowhere near justifiable for the contact returned. Her contact, while being the first physical contact made in the footage released (no idea what happened outside before this video) was quite weak. There is no one that can say a college football running back that takes hard physical contact on a daily basis felt threatened in any way or he's the biggest fucking pussy in the history of football.

Don't believe anyone has said the contact was justifiable. That's why he rightly received the punishment he did.

 

[MarkOU]

@MarkOU won't answer. I dare him @MarkOU to pull a "Nathan Jessep" and say "Your Damn Right it was self Defense"

If someone pushes you and then strikes you in the face and you retailate yes, that's self defense. Not my fault you're conforming to the stereotype of women being unequal to men.

If She was a man this would be a non issue but here we are in 2016 women are equal but they're not? Make up your damn mind.

 

[WizardHawk]

Most of the cases of justifiable contact by a man to a woman that I was a part of more or less involved either weaker/smaller males or otherwise very aggressive or dangerous women. Those encounters do exist. I admit to laughing at a few of them, particularly one dude that got knocked out when he tried to get all chest to chest with a chick that was bad ass.

I'm not a tree hugging libtard that believe no contact with a woman is ever justifiable, and neither does the law. But you can't be a world class athlete and probably ever find anything that resembles justification.

 

[romeo212000]

If someone pushes you and then strikes you in the face and you retailate yes, that's self defense. Not my fault you're conforming to the stereotype of women being unequal to men.

He did react in self defense. That's the very definition. The question then becomes whether the amount of force used was appropriate. It wasn't and he had to answer for that.

 

[WizardHawk]

If someone pushes you and then strikes you in the face and you retailate yes, that's self defense. Not my fault you're conforming to the stereotype of women being unequal to men.

If She was a man this would be a non issue but here we are in 2016 women are equal but they're not? Make up your damn mind.

This is not such a case. He's a world class athlete. There is no self defense for a weak push and weak slap near the neck/cheek area.

He's a running back. He sees more danger in practice every day from his own teammates than anything she could have brought with anything less than a gun.

I get he's your boy, but this was wrong and nothing can change that.

But, he paid his price and everyone should let it go and leave him alone if he doesn't do anything like this again.

 

[romeo212000]

This is not such a case. He's a world class athlete. There is no self defense for a weak push and weak slap near the neck/cheek area.

He's a running back. He sees more danger in practice every day from his own teammates than anything she could have brought with anything less than a gun.

I get he's your boy, but this was wrong and nothing can change that.

But, he paid his price and everyone should let it go and leave him alone if he doesn't do anything like this again.

That's all I've been saying. The rest of these bitches can fuck off. He doesn't owe the media or anyone else a pound of flesh.

 

[gpm1976]

Again, you can create all sorts of what ifs and I already clearly said I have helped put together evidence to defend men who have hit women in casinos I worked with. I can't be more clear. I've literally seen dozens of these kinds of cases in my career and know well where those lines are in the eyes of law enforcement and the courts.

This particular case comes nowhere near justifiable for the contact returned. Her contact, while being the first physical contact made in the footage released (no idea what happened outside before this video) was quite weak. There is no one that can say a college football running back that takes hard physical contact on a daily basis felt threatened in any way or he's the biggest fucking pussy in the history of football.

I wasn't trying to gloss over the fact that you've defended men in cases like this. But we're trying to base an opinion off of 38 seconds of video. I need to know more before making any sort of decision. That said, I"m not a violent person, so if I were on the jury, I'd more than likely side w/the girl in this case.

 

[gpm1976]

Both parties made poor and life altering decisions that night. Both parties deserved consequences for their actions. I hope both learned from their poor decisions and are better people as they move forward into adulthood. Neither party's poor decisions should deny them a second chance imo provides they both do exactly that.

Right, they definitely made poor decisions. The one thing I can't tell from the video was how hard mixon actually hit her. Was it more of a slap and the table did most of the damage? Anyways, I guess it doesn't matter. He made a VERY, VERY bad decision when he hit her.

 

[WizardHawk]

That's all I've been saying. The rest of these bitches can fuck off. He doesn't owe the media or anyone else a pound of flesh.

I admit to being behind in following whatever part of that story happened. I know he faced and is facing some legal/civil case(s) over it and rightfully so.

I only come at this from someone that studied these types of videos for a living and what the law/courts in this state think about just that part of it. I have no dog in this fight.

IMO he doesn't deserve to lose his football career over this very wrong momentary lapse of judgement as long as this is the only example of it. I have no problem with him playing in his bowl game and hope this doesn't impact his draft day status. The NFL has to stop overreacting to these as well. Let him do some community activism for awareness bullshit and let that be that.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

I figured out why she wasn't charged. His use of homophobic slurs according to a Supreme Court ruling, constitutes an immediate breach of peace -- gave her the right to react as she did.

That is why she wasn't charged with anything. I'm guessing with multiple witnesses for the cops to talk to, this is why he was charged and she wasn't. I also bet this is why he went to the race card and said she spit on him.

Still trying to figure out why he said he felt threatened. Must be tough to play college football if you feel threatened by a 5' woman.

 

[WizardHawk]

I wasn't trying to gloss over the fact that you've defended men in cases like this. But we're trying to base an opinion off of 38 seconds of video. I need to know more before making any sort of decision. That said, I"m not a violent person, so if I were on the jury, I'd more than likely side w/the girl in this case.

Well that's exactly what I did for a living. I didn't get context on the video that I gathered and at times testified over. I didn't get who said what or what happened off camera that might have impact on the case. I specifically had just whatever video was there and broke down in legal terms only what that video showed.

In that context some of what has been claimed up here is just wrong. I make no claims about what lead up to that moment. I'm sure there is more to the full story. I can only say at that time of contact the return contact on his part was entirely and completely 100% wrong without exception. There is zero justification for that contact at that time in this case.

 

[WizardHawk]

I figured out why she wasn't charged. His use of homophobic slurs according to a Supreme Court ruling, constitutes an immediate breach of peace -- gave her the right to react as she did.

That is why she wasn't charged with anything. I'm guessing with multiple witnesses for the cops to talk to, this is why he was charged and she wasn't. I also bet this is why he went to the race card and said she spit on him.

Still trying to figure out why he said he felt threatened. Must be tough to play college football if you feel threatened by a 5' woman.

If he had given that weak of a push he wouldn't have been charged either. And that slap would never in any court in america face charges. Doesn't matter who it's against. It was physical contact, but not violent contact. There is a distinction and it's very easy to see in this case.

 

[romeo212000]

Right, they definitely made poor decisions. The one thing I can't tell from the video was how hard mixon actually hit her. Was it more of a slap and the table did most of the damage? Anyways, I guess it doesn't matter. He made a VERY, VERY bad decision when he hit her.

Hard to tell. The media tried to make it sound like he coiled up like Mike Tyson and threw a big overhand right. I train in martial arts, and he most definitely did not do that. That was an extremely reflexive swing, and frankly, if she hadn't bounced her face off the table probably wouldn't have suffered the facial injuries she did. That doesn't make it okay, just the fact of the matter. Mixon has enough fast twitch fibers to launch her off her feet. That definitely was not anything close to a haymaker.

 

[romeo212000]

I figured out why she wasn't charged. His use of homophobic slurs according to a Supreme Court ruling, constitutes an immediate breach of peace -- gave her the right to react as she did.

That is why she wasn't charged with anything. I'm guessing with multiple witnesses for the cops to talk to, this is why he was charged and she wasn't. I also bet this is why he went to the race card and said she spit on him.

Still trying to figure out why he said he felt threatened. Must be tough to play college football if you feel threatened by a 5' woman.

Again, so you'll take her parties word that he used a homophobic slur, but not his that she called him a racial one? Gtfo with your weak ass shit.

 

[Bamabino]

Mixon is a pussy.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

Again, so you'll take her parties word that he used a homophobic slur, but not his that she called him a racial one? Gtfo with your weak ass shit.

I'm going out on a limb and saying the cops interviewed the witnesses. Just a stab in the dark

 

[romeo212000]

Mixon is a pussy.

Not as big a pussy as you though.