ITT: Discuss Bama's weak schedule.

[Neilcar]

LOL.


How fitting that retards like @The Oldtimer @CJH9972 @Neilcar @AlaskaGoober have flocked to @UCFucktard's thread

Couple of minor points

You seemed to have flocked to the same thread
At the present time you have no date to state anyone is incorrect.

 

[Deep Creek]

They are never going to be equal. The only way the playing field is equal is in your mind. You could count on 1 hand the number of players/coaches who would choose a G5 program over a P5 program. Sure, there are individual players that slip through the cracks to the G5 level and excel...but there are 11 players on the field at a time.

No way things will ever be toally equal...even among the P5s...much less between G5 and P5.

Even if they share tier 1 (or any other tier) TV revenue 100% equally, it still won't be totally equal. No way Baylor, TCU and Tech will ever generate the revenue Texas and Oklahoma do. Not a chance.

What gets me is a very limited revenue team like UNLV can beat a team like Vandy who benefits from the rich revenue provided to them by being an SEC member. UNLV is dead last in the MWC West division! Dead last! How does such happen?

Talk about not getting your money's worth out of Vandy's share...at least as far as football results go.

 

[fishinabarrel]

Competition is about determining a winner. Not the best team participating in the competition. Placing and advancing one team over another because it is better as a matter of opinion is an absurd idea.

Well unless you want to make a 120 team playoff then we are going to have to have ranked teams, and those teams are going to have to be ranked with some logic behind them. Logic says Bama would pound the best of the G5s into dust despite SOS, opponent record, or whatever else you can find that may or may not be similar.

 

[fishinabarrel]

Also, Bama has earned the right to be considered good until proven otherwise, not the other way around. Going to the playoffs every year of their existence and winning a natty pretty much every other year for the past decade will do that. I'd say Clemson is pretty much on the same boat (some may say UNC proved Clemson is a little down this year)

 

[NU_FTW]

Couple of minor points

You seemed to have flocked to the same thread
At the present time you have no date to state anyone is incorrect.

You've been proven a retard as have the others i have listed. I came here with a bag of popcorn in one hand and a baby seal club in the other. Carry on moron

 

[Deep Creek]

Also, Bama has earned the right to be considered good until proven otherwise, not the other way around. Going to the playoffs every year of their existence and winning a natty pretty much every other year for the past decade will do that. I'd say Clemson is pretty much on the same boat (some may say UNC proved Clemson is a little down this year)

I guess I'm more forgiving than many CFB "purists". I give every team a pass on one game. I guess it comes from years in dealing with young people...many of which you can't predict what they'll do next because they don't know what they'll do next! We were the same damn way.

Unless you are BYU, the vast majority of players are 18-22 year olds. I expect them to throw in a clunker of a game every season. Just they way they are.

Here's the quirk in that. If your clunker comes at the wrong time against the wrong opponent, you are eliminated from CFP consideration. The other playoff teams' clunkers may have been worse but their opponents and the timing of the clunkers were better. And sometimes the opponent at the time of the clunker is so pathetic, that team actually wins their clunker!

 

[CJH9972]

Clearly you think all wins are created equal. You have 3 G5 teams in the top 10 and 8 in the top 25. You claim that results on the field are all the matter, but you have 5 AAC teams ranked, despite the fact that the last time a AAC team beat a ranked P5 team was 2017. As I said, if you'd just provide the release date of your manifesto, we could figure out the rest of your views.

All wins are not equal and G5 teams particularly AAC are faring much better so far than the typically do. I don't have a manifesto.....yet.

 

[CJH9972]

They are never going to be equal. The only way the playing field is equal is in your mind. You could count on 1 hand the number of players/coaches who would choose a G5 program over a P5 program. Sure, there are individual players that slip through the cracks to the G5 level and excel...but there are 11 players on the field at a time.

I'm not arguing they will ever be equal where resources are concerned. My point is they are treated the same by the rules in play which doesn't mean equal value or equal outcomes.

 

[CJH9972]

You have been arguing you cannot use an eye test, which you most certainly can. Lets say nebraska won all the close games we have had all year we would have a decent record with our only blow out losses being minnesota and ohio state (both unbeaten) if our kicker could have made field goals we would have actually won most those games (this isnt about should woulda i am painting a picture) now nebraska would have be 7-2 not a bad record

If you watched us play there is a reason those games were close, horrible execution and just bad play, this isnt a subjective matter when you see players not do what they are supposed to you can see that penalties and turn overs is horrible for our team though we'd be 7-2 and only have good losses.

Objectively i can say we would not deserve to be ranked not even close, QB doesnt sell the fake, QB doesnt block when he hands the ball off QB doesnt pick up the RB when he gets clobbered behind the LOS Defense isnt executing properly OLine not executing properly yet we'd be 7-2 objectively you can see missed assignments and see that this 7-2 nebraska even with wins over p5's would be garbage regardless of record.


Eye test is very accurate and real and objective and if G5 teams deserved recognition they would look the part objectively (they dont though, and against inferior competition)

You can use eye test all you like. I'm simply opposed to using the eye test to determine rankings. For example, your 7-2 Nebraska team based on its schedule would get the same value under my preferred rules whether or not they looked good or bad getting there.

 

[CJH9972]

Well unless you want to make a 120 team playoff then we are going to have to have ranked teams, and those teams are going to have to be ranked with some logic behind them. Logic says Bama would pound the best of the G5s into dust despite SOS, opponent record, or whatever else you can find that may or may not be similar.

Don't need a 120 team playoff to determine advancement based on which teams results are better as a matter of rule rather than opinion.

 

[Rolltide94]

I'm not arguing they will ever be equal where resources are concerned. My point is they are treated the same by the rules in play which doesn't mean equal value or equal outcomes.

They are treated the same...the same process that evaluates Alabama will evaluate UCF. What it won't do is pretend that Alabama doesn't have twice as many 4 stars on our 2nd team defense as UCF has in their entire program. Nor will it pretend that Alabama doesn't spend 20 times as much money on football as UCF.

Nobody forced UCF to join FBS...they, like many other programs, elected to suck on the tit that is P5.

 

[UNA Lion]

I know its popular to pick on Bama at each and every opportunity

… but when a UCF fan does so, it just seems all the more pathetic.

 

[NU_FTW]

You can use eye test all you like. I'm simply opposed to using the eye test to determine rankings. For example, your 7-2 Nebraska team based on its schedule would get the same value under my preferred rules whether or not they looked good or bad getting there.

That would be retarded.

 

[Rolltide94]

All wins are not equal and G5 teams particularly AAC are faring much better so far than the typically do. I don't have a manifesto.....yet.

How so...they are still losing to as many ranked P5 teams as they usually do. What exactly about Cincinnati's 42-0 beat down at the hands of Ohio State convince you that Cincinnati is a top 6 team. Their last 3 wins are by an average of 10 points over teams that are collectively 8-19.

Since the playoff era started, the AAC is 38-78 versus P5 through 2018 and 7-31 vs ranked P5 opponents. In 2019 they are 6-12 and they are 0-5 versus currently ranked P5.

I think you and I might have a difference of opinion of what faring much better than they typically do is. Mine is based on them having a nearly identical record to that of every other season vs P5 and not having won a game against a ranked P5 opponent since UCF upset Auburn...they are now 0-11 since then....better indeed...pfff.

 

[CJH9972]

That would be retarded.

The same logic that applies most everywhere else is retarded?

 

[CJH9972]

How so...they are still losing to as many ranked P5 teams as they usually do. What exactly about Cincinnati's 42-0 beat down at the hands of Ohio State convince you that Cincinnati is a top 6 team. Their last 3 wins are by an average of 10 points over teams that are collectively 8-19.

Since the playoff era started, the AAC is 38-78 versus P5 through 2018 and 7-31 vs ranked P5 opponents. In 2019 they are 6-12 and they are 0-5 versus currently ranked P5.

I think you and I might have a difference of opinion of what faring much better than they typically do is. Mine is based on them having a nearly identical record to that of every other season vs P5 and not having won a game against a ranked P5 opponent since UCF upset Auburn...they are now 0-11 since then....better indeed...pfff.

Better than typical according to my rules is what I meant. Beyond that, I don't care about P5 vs G5 labels. I'm also not disputing anyone's opinion about the differences between the two groups. My preference for actual rules isn't based on caring that a G5 ever wins. I simply think teams should advance or be eliminated based on the value of their results under agreed upon rules that apply equally to all FBS teams without regard to identity or perception.

 

[CJH9972]

They are treated the same...the same process that evaluates Alabama will evaluate UCF. What it won't do is pretend that Alabama doesn't have twice as many 4 stars on our 2nd team defense as UCF has in their entire program. Nor will it pretend that Alabama doesn't spend 20 times as much money on football as UCF.

Nobody forced UCF to join FBS...they, like many other programs, elected to suck on the tit that is P5.

Even P5 teams are not treated the same under a beauty contest format and with actual rules, it is up to Alabama to use their superior talent to beat UCF according any possible rules that might apply and not simply be favored because they are the better team.

 

[Rolltide94]

Better than typical according to my rules is what I meant. Beyond that, I don't care about P5 vs G5 labels. I'm also not disputing anyone's opinion about the differences between the two groups. My preference for actual rules isn't based on caring that a G5 ever wins. I simply think teams should advance or be eliminated based on the value of their results under agreed upon rules that apply equally to all FBS teams without regard to identity or perception.

Fine, as long as we establish it is based on your made up rules I am fine with you saying whatever bullshit you like. If we are actually using objectives measurements and actual results, then if anything they are doing worse.

I mean, you can pretend in your rules that there are no P5 and G5 distinctions, but the reality is that there is, and the AAC typically gets their ass kicked when they play them. Houston at 8-4 is the only team in the AAC that has a winning record over P5 teams. They and Memphis are also the only AAC teams with more than one win against a ranked P5 opponent in the last 6 years. What P5 team would be considered for the playoffs with a ranked P5 win every other year.

 

[Neilcar]

You've been proven a retard as have the others i have listed. I came here with a bag of popcorn in one hand and a baby seal club in the other. Carry on moron

You have no idea what you are talking about. Bama has played nobody — truth is you have no clue who will win Saturday

 

[The Oldtimer]

LOL.


How fitting that retards like @The Oldtimer @CJH9972 @Neilcar @AlaskaGoober have flocked to @UCFucktard's thread

Are you jealous, is @UCFucktard your boyfriend?