Is Sandy Koufax a Top 3 Pitcher of All-Time, Based on Actual Results

[Nosferatu]

Yeah, the guy with the highest WAR of any pitcher of all time?

You do realize that's not true right?

 

[Nosferatu]

Fair enough, if that's your opinion. I'm not the one to try to change your mind.

It's really not just opinion but thank you

 

[Omar 382]

You do realize that's not true right?

If you use fWAR, sure it is.

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[broncosmitty]

If you use fWAR, sure it is.

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Quit bitching aboot Nolan Ryan fans if you're using that crap.

 

[Omar 382]

It's really not just opinion but thank you

Well, it is a fact that the game has changed significantly beyond just the different approach to hitting home runs. I.e., the spit-ball, an increase in PED's, modern weight-lifting and diet regimens, travel conditions, the pool that MLB drew from, etc., etc. fucking etc.

 

[Nosferatu]

If you use fWAR, sure it is.

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And you wonder why people laugh at you...

 

[Omar 382]

Quit bitching aboot Nolan Ryan fans if you're using that crap.

What do you think of this graph? Do you know what the Coefficient of Determination signifies?

 

[Omar 382]

And you wonder why people laugh at you...

Why? Tell me, I'm slow.

 

[Nosferatu]

Well, it is a fact that the game has changed significantly beyond just the different approach to hitting home runs. I.e., the spit-ball, an increase in PED's, modern weight-lifting and diet regimens, travel conditions, the pool that MLB drew from, etc., etc. fucking etc.

All the muscles in the world cant help you hit a round ball with a round bat but thanks for playing.

 

[broncosmitty]

What do you think of this graph? Do you know what the Coefficient of Determination signifies?

What?

 

[The Oldtimer]

It's really not just opinion but thank you

Okay!!!

 

[Omar 382]

All the muscles in the world cant help you hit a round ball with a round bat but thanks for playing.

What? What does that have to do with anything?

 

[Omar 382]

What?

Exactly.

 

[Omar 382]

Quit bitching aboot Nolan Ryan fans if you're using that crap.

It's surely not a be-all, end-all stat.

 

[broncosmitty]

Exactly.

What are you asking me to have an opinion on?

If you want to call people retarded for viewing Ryan as an Elite alltime guy, don't use some spreadsheet that ranks him 6th.

It makes you look foolish.

 

[Omar 382]

What are you asking me to have an opinion on?

If you want to call people retarded for viewing Ryan as an Elite alltime guy, don't use some spreadsheet that ranks him 6th.

It makes you look foolish.

Did I say that WAR should be the only statistic one uses when judging a pitcher?

 

[Omar 382]

What are you asking me to have an opinion on?

If you want to call people retarded for viewing Ryan as an Elite alltime guy, don't use some spreadsheet that ranks him 6th.

It makes you look foolish.

And if someone wants to say Nolan Ryan is the 6th greatest pitcher of all time, they'd probably be wrong, but they'd be closer than someone saying Koufax is a top 3 pitcher of all time.

 

[broncosmitty]

It's surely not a be-all, end-all stat.

It definitely is not.

Yet it was the reason you gave for ranking Clemens as the top pitcher alltime. Same list that has Blyleven and Gaylord Perry in the Top 8.

 

[broncosmitty]

Did I say that WAR should be the only statistic one uses when judging a pitcher?

Only thing you said when I asked:

Clemens?

 

[Omar 382]

It definitely is not.

Yet it was the reason you gave for ranking Clemens as the top pitcher alltime. Same list that has Blyleven and Gaylord Perry in the Top 8.

No I didn't. I said that Roger Clemens, the guy that is the greatest pitcher of all time, is first on the list. That's all I said. Show me where I gave it as the reason, let alone the sole reason, I rank Clemens first.