Is Luka for AD the most shocking trade of all time

[trojanfan12]

I meant with respect to availability.

Ah yes...AC Green was an iron man for sure. Loved that guy.

 

[tlance]

And Mitch Kupchak. And Lou Mohs. And John Kundla. And Fred Schaus. And Pete Newell. And Bill Sharman.

Aw hell, it's almost like it's systemic!



When did I say they could? I said the Lakers are "the Lakers" -- that's explicitly a reference to the franchise.

That said, the Buss family has owned the franchise for 46 years now, and they do get credit for a lot of that history -- even though this generation are largely screw-ups, they are still "the regime".

Jerry Buss.

Not his kids.

They don’t get credit for dad’s work.

They got 1 title thanks to LeBron and AD. Maybe they get a few more with Luka.

We shall see.

 

[UK Cowboy]

Okay, I thought you were being serious. Never mind, I will stop wasting my time on you now.

You mean you seriously think someone would trade Anthony Davis at 31 straight up for a 25 year old Harden? Seriously? OK, like you said, no sense in debating it

 

[DJ Fieri]

You mean you seriously think someone would trade Anthony Davis at 31 straight up for a 25 year old Harden? Seriously? OK, like you said, no sense in debating it

No way anybody would.

Or they would be out of a job soon after.

 

[UK Cowboy]

Now James and Doncic aren't good passers?

Cannot make this ish up, LOL.

Exactly. Two of the best passers in the game. And while on paper it doesn't look like it will work, it damn well might. Luka always attracts attention from 2-3 guys every time down court, as does LBJ. The Lakers are going to have a lot of other guys that will just need to be able to knock down wide open jumpers

 

[tc1]

Are you talking about when AD was in New Orleans and Harden was in Houston?

No, the 32 year-old Davis that was just traded for 25 year-old Doncic -- which is exactly the opposite of the situation that some Cowboy was joking about.

Boston was ready to gut their entire core to get AD until he said he wanted Lakers.

No, the Lakers outbid Boston. Davis said to anyone who would listen that he just wanted to win.

Most people thought Boston would get him, at the time.

AD was absolutely the most valuable trade asset in the league at that time before the trade demands.

Not even close. James and Curry were much higher, but not on the market.

Do you remember last decade? No one wanted bigs unless they could shoot threes. Teams were playing 6'6" guys at center.

 

[Wamu]

(1)I'm not a fan of either player. Is quitting on a team better or worse than refusing to take your job sufficiently serious such that your team is forced to quit on you?


(2)I'm sure I never wrote that, and I'm not sure why you'd suggest it.

1. Maybe your opinion of both comes with some bias?

2. Let me remind you of what you said.

-->Is that better or worse than Doncic laying an egg in last year's first round against the Clippers, and needing to be bailed out by Irving?

I think people are seeing a lot more difference than actually exists between these two players.

Great players have had bad Finals games in the past. Luka isn't the first or the last.

 

[DJ Fieri]

Exactly. Two of the best passers in the game. And while on paper it doesn't look like it will work, it damn well might. Luka always attracts attention from 2-3 guys every time down court, as does LBJ. The Lakers are going to have a lot of other guys that will just need to be able to knock down wide open jumpers

If 1 of them isn't dealt for a big, Hachimura and Reaves have both turned into good 3 point shooters....

 

[DJ Fieri]

No, the 32 year-old Davis that was just traded for 25 year-old Doncic -- which is exactly the opposite of the situation that some Cowboy was joking about.


No, the Lakers outbid Boston. Davis said to anyone who would listen that he just wanted to win.

Most people thought Boston would get him, at the time.



Not even close. James and Curry were much higher, but not on the market.

Do you remember last decade? No one wanted bigs unless they could shoot threes. Teams were playing 6'6" guys at center.

That's a flat out lie. AD wanted the Lakers.

He's just trolling here....wants the negative attention.....LOL.

 

[tlance]

No, the 32 year-old Davis that was just traded for 25 year-old Doncic -- which is exactly the opposite of the situation that some Cowboy was joking about.


No, the Lakers outbid Boston. Davis said to anyone who would listen that he just wanted to win.

Most people thought Boston would get him, at the time.



Not even close. James and Curry were much higher, but not on the market.

Do you remember last decade? No one wanted bigs unless they could shoot threes. Teams were playing 6'6" guys at center.

They outbid Boston only because Boston wasn’t willing to commit all their assets after AD point blank told them he would not resign there.

Boston had them easily to beat the Laker package very easily if they wanted to. It wasn’t close in fact. In fact, there was ongoing debate as to whether or not the Lakers best offer was enough for NOLA to take even there wasn’t another offer better.

And you continue to prove you don’t understand player valuation. AD was a unicorn. He could shoot 3s, defend in space and was an offensive force.

Let me ask you this? Who is the most valuable trade asset in the NBA today?

There is a right answer. Bet you get it wrong.

 

[DJ Fieri]

Rob better add a C in the next few days.

 

[UK Cowboy]

Rob better add a C in the next few days.

Shouldn't be difficult. It doesn't have to be an all star, just a solid role player

 

[tlance]

Shouldn't be difficult. It doesn't have to be an all star, just a solid role player

DJ would have had a Valunciunas deal done today if he was in charge.

 

[DJ Fieri]

Shouldn't be difficult. It doesn't have to be an all star, just a solid role player

There's some guys that could be available though....

Capela in Atlanta. I'd call the Nets and see what they want for Claxton. Kessler in Utah....

 

[DJ Fieri]

DJ would have had a Valunciunas deal done today if he was in charge.

True, true.

No lies told.

 

[UK Cowboy]

DJ would have had a Valunciunas deal done today if he was in charge.

It would be really interesting to see them let it play out with an added Big. Both guys are ball dominant but both will give up the ball and make the right pass. Their defense will suck but they will be very difficult to stop. They both could play fewer minutes and always have one of them dominate when the other takes a blow. Add to the fact that both guy lives at the foul line at the end of games

 

[DJ Fieri]

DJ would have had a Valunciunas deal done today if he was in charge.

He's quietly having a pretty solid season.

11.5ppg and 8rpg in just 20mpg.

 

[tlance]

He's quietly having a pretty solid season.

They would need another defensive big to go with him.

Seems kind of cooked to me honestly.

He has always been able to post decent per minute stats, but he looks really slow.

Don’t think you would want to play him more than 20 minutes.

 

[UK Cowboy]

There's some guys that could be available though....

Capela in Atlanta. I'd call the Nets and see what they want for Claxton. Kessler in Utah....

Nurkic is on the block as well

 

[DJ Fieri]

Nurkic is on the block as well

Pass on him.