Is Lebron Most Overrated player EVER?

[Shanemansj13]

At least BronBron will have an excuse for when they lose. No love and no Smith. Plus he will blame the Coach. He always loves to use an excuse when he loses.

For a guy who is supposed to be the best player in the World he has never carried a team on his shoulders. He snuck off to Miami and begged for help from Wade and Bosh and he begged Love to come to Cleveland when Wiggins didn't sign for his management agency.

No excuses, even with no Kyrie and a bad ankle.

Looks like you are wrong again genius

 

[Shanemansj13]

Btw...LeBron James has taken 10 go-ahead shots in final 5 sec. of 4Q or OT in playoffs. He's made 6. Michael Jordan was 5-of-11 in his career.

And....LeBron James made his 3rd career game-winning postseason buzzer beater – most by any player over last 15 years

 

[HammerDown]

 

[True Lakers Fan]

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Btw...LeBron James has taken 10 go-ahead shots in final 5 sec. of 4Q or OT in playoffs. He's made 6. Michael Jordan was 5-of-11 in his career.

And....LeBron James made his 3rd career game-winning postseason buzzer beater – most by any player over last 15 years

Kobe has five championships and 7 trips to the finals. Lebron is about to be come 2 championships and 4 losses in the finals, but who's counting rings anyways

 

[GenJac]

I'm not a Lebron fan, but I have to say it's pretty remarkable the amount of hate he gets vs. other would-be-greats. I realize he named himself "The King" (fairly certain everyone on here has made a relatively foolish and harmless mistake at age 18 as well), but when Kobe was losing in the playoffs you never EVER heard the type of hatred and vitriol people have for Lebron. Pretty amazing given the only things people have against him are "he danced on a stage," "he held a press conference to announce he was signing with another team," "he guaranteed rings he never won," and "he isn't as good as Michael." I can totally get rooting against him as a player, but the personal hatred people feel towards him is laughable given his off the court history vs. 99% of the rest of the players.

 

[trojanfan12]

I'm not a Lebron fan, but I have to say it's pretty remarkable the amount of hate he gets vs. other would-be-greats. I realize he named himself "The King" (fairly certain everyone on here has made a relatively foolish and harmless mistake at age 18 as well), but when Kobe was losing in the playoffs you never EVER heard the type of hatred and vitriol people have for Lebron. Pretty amazing given the only things people have against him are "he danced on a stage," "he held a press conference to announce he was signing with another team," "he guaranteed rings he never won," and "he isn't as good as Michael." I can totally get rooting against him as a player, but the personal hatred people feel towards him is laughable given his off the court history vs. 99% of the rest of the players.

It's about the appearance of him trying to make himself bigger than the game. His "everybody look at me" attitude.

Look at the t.v. special he used to announce his intentions when he went to Miami. Players whose resume's Lebron can't touch never did this.

None of them ever started counting championships they hadn't won yet.

Not Magic, Not Bird, Not MJ, Not Kobe, Not Shaq.

Here's the thing, you can brag and be respected, even loved, if you back it up. Muhammad Ali was hated for being a braggart until he backed up everything he said. Lebron has been a bit of a braggart, but he hasn't backed it up.

Add to that the fact that he has earned himself a reputation as someone who tries to jump to stacked teams to chase rings and it's pretty easy to see that he brings much of it on himself. You can try to explain away his calling himself "the King" as being something a dumb 18 year old does. But he's now 30 and still doing the same kind of stuff.

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

As good a player as he is, he's never had that killer-instinct Jordan or Kobe had.

If things fuck up this finals he's 2/5

 

[True Lakers Fan]

It's about the appearance of him trying to make himself bigger than the game. His "everybody look at me" attitude.

Look at the t.v. special he used to announce his intentions when he went to Miami. Players whose resume's Lebron can't touch never did this.

None of them ever started counting championships they hadn't won yet.

Not Magic, Not Bird, Not MJ, Not Kobe, Not Shaq.

Here's the thing, you can brag and be respected, even loved, if you back it up. Muhammad Ali was hated for being a braggart until he backed up everything he said. Lebron has been a bit of a braggart, but he hasn't backed it up.

Add to that the fact that he has earned himself a reputation as someone who tries to jump to stacked teams to chase rings and it's pretty easy to see that he brings much of it on himself. You can try to explain away his calling himself "the King" as being something a dumb 18 year old does. But he's now 30 and still doing the same kind of stuff.

 

[True Lakers Fan]

I'm not a Lebron fan, but I have to say it's pretty remarkable the amount of hate he gets vs. other would-be-greats. I realize he named himself "The King" (fairly certain everyone on here has made a relatively foolish and harmless mistake at age 18 as well), but when Kobe was losing in the playoffs you never EVER heard the type of hatred and vitriol people have for Lebron. Pretty amazing given the only things people have against him are "he danced on a stage," "he held a press conference to announce he was signing with another team," "he guaranteed rings he never won," and "he isn't as good as Michael." I can totally get rooting against him as a player, but the personal hatred people feel towards him is laughable given his off the court history vs. 99% of the rest of the players


Plenty of time - and I still hear it plenty, but Kobe has five rings which is three more than what Lebron will ever have. WORD

 

[Shanemansj13]

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Kobe has five championships and 7 trips to the finals. Lebron is about to be come 2 championships and 4 losses in the finals, but who's counting rings anyways

Look at the team around him in the Finals. Look at the team around Kobe for his 3-peat. He got the wins and he deserved them no doubt, but if Lebron had those kind of teammates he would win EVERY year

 

[Cyder]

:car:
Kobe has five championships and 7 trips to the finals. Lebron is about to be come 2 championships and 4 losses in the finals, but who's counting rings anyways

The rest of the team has something to say in the results. This Cavs team is not very good and the first Cav's team he took had no business being in the finals. Lebron is better than Kobe was, not as good as Jordan

 

[Shanemansj13]

It's about the appearance of him trying to make himself bigger than the game. His "everybody look at me" attitude.

Look at the t.v. special he used to announce his intentions when he went to Miami. Players whose resume's Lebron can't touch never did this.

None of them ever started counting championships they hadn't won yet.

Not Magic, Not Bird, Not MJ, Not Kobe, Not Shaq.

Here's the thing, you can brag and be respected, even loved, if you back it up. Muhammad Ali was hated for being a braggart until he backed up everything he said. Lebron has been a bit of a braggart, but he hasn't backed it up.

Add to that the fact that he has earned himself a reputation as someone who tries to jump to stacked teams to chase rings and it's pretty easy to see that he brings much of it on himself. You can try to explain away his calling himself "the King" as being something a dumb 18 year old does. But he's now 30 and still doing the same kind of stuff.

So what kind of stuff is he still doing exactly right now?? Enlighten me.

 

[Wamu]

The rest of the team has something to say in the results. This Cavs team is not very good and the first Cav's team he took had no business being in the finals. Lebron is better than Kobe was, not as good as Jordan

Yeah the Big 3 of LeBron, Mo Williams & Delonte West just didn't get it done back in '07.

 

[Cyder]

Yeah the Big 3 of LeBron, Mo Williams & Delonte West just didn't get it done back in '07.

I still don't know exactly what color Delonte was.

 

[Wamu]

I still don't know exactly what color Delonte was.

I wonder if he's still in the league? I haven't heard his name mentioned in years though.

 

[Cyder]

I wonder if he's still in the league? I haven't heard his name mentioned in years though.

Hasn't played in the NBA since 2011-2012. He may be in the D League

 

[Cyder]

I'm not a Lebron fan, but I have to say it's pretty remarkable the amount of hate he gets vs. other would-be-greats. I realize he named himself "The King" (fairly certain everyone on here has made a relatively foolish and harmless mistake at age 18 as well), but when Kobe was losing in the playoffs you never EVER heard the type of hatred and vitriol people have for Lebron. Pretty amazing given the only things people have against him are "he danced on a stage," "he held a press conference to announce he was signing with another team," "he guaranteed rings he never won," and "he isn't as good as Michael." I can totally get rooting against him as a player, but the personal hatred people feel towards him is laughable given his off the court history vs. 99% of the rest of the players


Plenty of time - and I still hear it plenty, but Kobe has five rings which is three more than what Lebron will ever have. WORD

When Kobe and Shaq were on the team and didn't win they got killed. Not sure Lebron won't win more titles, he's not that old. But Kobe never took a team as talentless as the Cleveland 2007 team anywhere. EVen after Shaq left Bynum, Odom and Artest were better than anyone on that Cavs team.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

I still don't know exactly what color Delonte was.

Is "fucking creepy" a color?

I was lucky enough to have courtside seats to a Cavs game back then, and up close, Delonte West was one of the creepiest fucks I've ever experienced.

 

[Cyder]

Is "fucking creepy" a color?

I was lucky enough to have courtside seats to a Cavs game back then, and up close, Delonte West was one of the creepiest fucks I've ever experienced.

If he was a Crayola color "Jaundiced Yellow" would have been a good name

 

[HuskerCradle2Grave]

Yeah the Big 3 of LeBron, Mo Williams & Delonte West just didn't get it done back in '07.

Speaks to how bad the East was then. And still is...