If Jameis were white...

[Mitziman]

Would he be the Andrew Luck in the 2015 draft, or maybe Ben Roethlisberger?...Jameis has 2 fewer r*pe allegations against him compared to Big Ben, but who's counting...

BTW, Big Ben paid off the 3rd accuser.

 

[Sharkinva]

You do realize that two months ago you were also proclaiming RG3 as a franchise QB and the future of the Redskins right??

Just figured I would point that out.

 

[Dolemite censored]

Would he be the Andrew Luck in the 2015 draft, or maybe Ben Roethlisberger?...Jameis has 2 fewer r*pe allegations against him compared to Big Ben, but who's counting...

BTW, Big Ben paid off the 3rd accuser.

One fewer allegation than Big Ben.

And one where he caught crabs.

 

[Dolemite censored]

If he were white, he would recall Art Schlicter or Ryan Leaf.

Personal conduct also devalued Johnny Football.

 

[UK Cowboy]

If he were white, he would recall Art Schlicter or Ryan Leaf.

Personal conduct also devalued Johnny Football.

Ryan Leaf, perfect comparison. This kid is JaMarcus Russell 2.0 IMO

 

[TheRobotDevil]

Doesn't matter what he is he's Jamarcus Russell 2.0 I don't see him having the tools or minder to be an nfl QB

 

[Dolemite censored]

Ryan Leaf, perfect comparison. This kid is JaMarcus Russell 2.0 IMO

Winston's value in the draft is way down.

Only idiot Owners/GMs Like Jerry Johnson or Snyder would go for him.

 

[TheRobotDevil]

Winston's value in the draft is way down.

Only idiot Owners/GMs Like Jerry Johnson or Snyder would go for him.

It's plummeting fast marriota is the only one that stands out so far

 

[Sleepy T]

When he throws at his pro day and combine the scouts,coaches, and owners will forget about all of the nonsense. I would be surprised if he falls out of the Top 5 and shocked if he isn't Top 10.

 

[TheRobotDevil]

When he throws at his pro day and combine the scouts,coaches, and owners will forget about all of the nonsense. I would be surprised if he falls out of the Top 5 and shocked if he isn't Top 10.

How much faith do you put in skill. How do you feel about the wonderlic test? A lot of QBs have had amazing combines and bombed the wonderlic as well as shown character issues. They haven't panned out very well

 

[Mitziman]

You do realize that two months ago you were also proclaiming RG3 as a franchise QB and the future of the Redskins right??

Just figured I would point that out.

Of course I did shark...nice change of the avatar by the way. But obviously, Griff is not the same QB since his 2012 injury. Would I do the trade again, hell yeah I would. It's business, and at the time it was the right move for this team. But, who could foresee the injury?

It's a QB league. Maybe we get lucky and get one late in the draft, or maybe you make a business decision like McDonald's did and cut the "big n tasty" from the menu and get back to what really works...BIG, SKRONG, ACCURATE, POCKET PASSER who will be a force in the league.

 

[Mitziman]

How much faith do you put in skill. How do you feel about the wonderlic test? A lot of QBs have had amazing combines and bombed the wonderlic as well as shown character issues. They haven't panned out very well

Jameis was accepted at Stanford...next

 

[TheRobotDevil]

Jameis was accepted at Stanford...next

Somehow I don't think Jameis meets Stanford's standards next

 

[Mitziman]

Somehow I don't think Jameis meets Stanford's standards next

That's where you would be wrong...but, I'm sure thats not the first time its happened.

 

[Chewbaccer]

If Jameis were white, he'd be just as dumb as the black version.

 

[TheRobotDevil]

That's where you would be wrong...but, I'm sure thats not the first time its happened.

He wouldn't last a week at Stanford with his conduct and decision making. Stanford holds their student body to a very high set if standards.if he did manage to get into Stanford he would have been transferring shortly after

 

[Sportster 72]

It's not like you are going to win an argument with an FSU fan over this or like he is going to be completely objective.

 

[DoobeeDoobeeDoo]

 

[4down20]

Oh god, are you seriously trying to play the race card on this?

 

[SoCalWizFan]

Would he be the Andrew Luck in the 2015 draft, or maybe Ben Roethlisberger?...Jameis has 2 fewer r*pe allegations against him compared to Big Ben, but who's counting...

BTW, Big Ben paid off the 3rd accuser.

Several flaws with your train of thought. First of all Big Ben to the best of my knowledge got in trouble with the law after he was in the NFL. I certainly hope that Winston stays clean & has a good NFL career. However - where someone is drafted is based on their perceived image on & off the field in college. I am guessing that if Luck or RG3 had similar issues in college they would have slid in the draft. BTW - if the incidents with Big Ben happened in 2014 I am guessing that he would have received a considerably longer suspension.

The NFL is very sensitive at this time due to players such as Ray Rice & Peterson. Any perceived issues with a player (especially a QB) could spell disaster for an NFL team. More than ever teams are going to be wary of anyone who is perceived as having the potential to get in trouble with the law & certainly there are red flags for Winston.

This isn't about race. If Luck were in this draft & had the same issues as Winston there is a pretty good chance that he slides in the draft.