How long does Philly stick with Wentz before going back to Foles?

[handicappers]

Lol

 

[Manster7588]

I wonder if I should inform the Moron that Dak has a number of games better than Wentz in their careers.

 

[dbldwn711]

Manster was comparing Dak and Wentz. He brought up their stats from one game and I said you can’t use stats from one game in their careers and say Dak is better.

It’s like if Nick Sudfeld has a great game and I say Nick Sudfeld has 5
TDs today and Dak only had one today. So Sudfeld is a better QB. You then come post just because Sudfeld had one better game this week it doesn’t mean Sudfeld is better then Dak. Get it?

"One game in there career means he’s better. Fucking hilarious dude. One game? Okie dokie"

Ok... your quote (the one @Manster7588 just posted) does NOT line up with your “explanation”. In fact, this (not being precise with your wording) has gotten you in trouble in the past.

There are actually TWO ways you could have accomplished what you claim you were saying.

First, you could of simply omitted the phrase “in their career” and the sentence would have meant what you claim you were saying (assuming you end it with a question mark which appears to be your intent even here).

Or, you could have used the word “from” rather than “in” along with the rest of that phrase and achieved what you claim you were saying.

However, as written, the plain meaning of the sentence is this was the only game in their careers where Dak was better.

To be clear, this is not grammar nazi BS. It’s someone who (giving you the benefit of the doubt) isn’t conveying what they allege they are conveying clearly. The reason I call your intent into question is you claim to be a lifelong teacher and one who was awarded TOY to boot. Someone with that background should be able to clearly and accurately convey their thoughts when writing. I conclude that you are lying about at least one of them. You were either not a lifelong teacher or you are attempting to walk back what you clearly and plainly wrote in effort not be wrong again.

Pretty pathetic that an assistant manager has to explain this to you.

 

[Schmoopy1000]

I wonder if I should inform the Moron that Dak has a number of games better than Wentz in their careers.

it wouldnt count.

 

[dbldwn711]

I wonder if I should inform the Moron that Dak has a number of games better than Wentz in their careers.

I’m still waiting for him to respond to me pointing out that Wentz had more than one game this year where his QBR was below 100. He stated that only happened one time this year. I pointed out it had happened 3 times before last night and I think he was slightly below 100 last night too.

Let’s see him walk that one back as well.

 

[Schmoopy1000]

I’m still waiting for him to respond to me pointing out that Wentz had more than one game this year where his QBR was below 100. He stated that only happened one time this year. I pointed out it had happened 3 times before last night and I think he was slightly below 100 last night too.

Let’s see him walk that one back as well.

yeah I think it was in the 98's last night if I remember correct.

 

[dbldwn711]

yeah I think it was in the 98's last night if I remember correct.

I’ll say this about @PhoenixEagles1 : often in error... never in doubt.

 

[Schmoopy1000]

I’ll say this about @PhoenixEagles1 : often in error... never in doubt.

I guess that is another way of saying Ignorance is Bliss.

 

[handicappers]

Looks like he took his ball and went home...AGAIN.

poor lil fella, getting his dick kicked in on the nightly now.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

He doesn’t call the plays so he isn’t padding his stats but you are spot on it’s moronic they didn’t run more this uear

FYI most QBs even those that have actually won an MVP don't call their own plays. He is allowed to audible isn't he?

Besides it doesn't just need to be Wantz trying to pad stats. What coach doesn't want their players setting records? Well, beside BB?

 

[Tapey]

This thread is the gift that keeps on giving

 

[SteelersPride]

Ok I’m finally answering your last point. I’ve continually said Center never get drafted high. Not one in the top 14 in 50 years. Then you come back with DEs get drafted more then QBs so you are saying that DE is more important then QB. This is where you are completely wrong and put an idea out there that I never said or implied. Never once did I say the more a position gets drafted early the more important they are. I don’t know where you even came up with that idea.

You cant use the draft to support one argument, but not another, when they are both facts.......you realize this right? this is the basis of my point. your draft argument is invalid. You fail to acknowledge that. Yes your stats are correct, but so are mine. THey both are flawed.

This year DTs are going to dominate the top picks and they are not more important then DE... it’s just a great year for DTs. So this entire idea by you that because a position gets drafted MORE means they are more important.
Never once did I say that or insinuate that. All I ever said is Center never goes really high because they simply aren’t as important.

Again you cant use the draft to support one argument but not another. Its flawed. You need a new argument.

I have a better word to illustrate my point and that’s impact. Centers do not have a big impact on a team like the other positions. They just aren’t huge game changers. If they were huge game changers at least one team in the last 50 years would take them in the top 14.


Every single position including has gone in the top 14 except Centers, Punters and Kickers and I just can’t fathom how people are saying, “Oh, that means nothing”. If there was a team out there that believed “Man if we had a really good Center we’d be competitive yet not one team in over 50 years, over 700 picks said let’s use a top pick on a Center cause a great one would make us awesome.
Never once did I say the amount of player positions that go in the top 14 are the most important. All I said was if a Center was so important a team would say “Let’s get a Center early because then we will be a good team. 700 draft picks and not once was that said by any of the 32 teams.

Again the draft argument........thats literally all you have and its flawed!

Look its quite simple. THe draft supports your argument. SO you use it. But when the draft supports my argument, its flawed? THe point is there are other variables that come into play with the draft. you are not acknowledging that. You cannot use it to support one argument and it ignore it on another.
You have state before the draft is all that matters, its all you need to support your point. My little example shows the flaw in the belief.

and again, you cant fault PFF rankings on the basis you disagree with brandon grahams rating.1 player, 1 metric of the thousands and thousands that they do. you claim that the "pros" do the draft and thats what matters. Well the "pros" use PFF metrics. yet now they are invalid. and even using football outsiders metrics, which are also respected. You discount those. with philly having at worst a top 15 o-line overall, and ONLY a recent slip in pass protection due to tackle injury. which means prior he had a pretty god damn good pass protection.....and still is in th top 2/3 of the leage.

i dont know how you can just keep picking and choosing arguments and validity.

 

[handicappers]

PE1 has got this troll thing down tight. Almost as fresh as his kicks...lol

I've come to the conclusion that he purposely acts like an idiot to garner attention, backlash and insults. Something I have not nor would ever do on a message board.

 

[PhoenixEagles1]

Again the draft argument........thats literally all you have and its flawed!

Look its quite simple. THe draft supports your argument. SO you use it. But when the draft supports my argument, its flawed? THe point is there are other variables that come into play with the draft. you are not acknowledging that. You cannot use it to support one argument and it ignore it on another.
You have state before the draft is all that matters, its all you need to support your point. My little example shows the flaw in the belief.

and again, you cant fault PFF rankings on the basis you disagree with brandon grahams rating.1 player, 1 metric of the thousands and thousands that they do. you claim that the "pros" do the draft and thats what matters. Well the "pros" use PFF metrics. yet now they are invalid. and even using football outsiders metrics, which are also respected. You discount those. with philly having at worst a top 15 o-line overall, and ONLY a recent slip in pass protection due to tackle injury. which means prior he had a pretty god damn good pass protection.....and still is in th top 2/3 of the leage.

i dont know how you can just keep picking and choosing arguments and validity.

Your example didn’t show anything because it’s a completely different point that I never brought up. Plus I gave you a lot more then one example. Do you need me to go over it again?

 

[handicappers]

lol

called it

 

[PhoenixEagles1]

I wonder if I should inform the Moron that Dak has a number of games better than Wentz in their careers.

No shit dumbass. I was the one telling you he’s had tons of games better then Wentz. But since you can’t be a man an say “My bad” ever, this is all pointless.

 

[Manster7588]

No shit dumbass. I was the one telling you he’s had tons of games better then Wentz. But since you can’t be a man an say “My bad” ever, this is all pointless.

Wrong again MORON.

 

[Manster7588]

Hey MORON, you do understand that career includes 2016. You know the season you try to ignore.

 

[SteelersPride]

Your example didn’t show anything because it’s a completely different point that I never brought up. Plus I gave you a lot more then one example. Do you need me to go over it again?

Yeah I do bc u come back to the draft? Again u can’t have it both ways . It works for u but not me? That’s bs

 

[PhoenixEagles1]

Yeah I do bc u come back to the draft? Again u can’t have it both ways . It works for u but not me? That’s bs

That’s not BS because I never said that the number of players picked high equals the most important especially when you need 3-4 good DEs a game and only one QB. It has nothing to do with the argument and a completely different point. Totally different topics. I’m not having it both ways. I never said the total number of high firsts taken at a position means it’s the most important and it doesn’t work as an argument for you cause it changes every year. Many times it’s tackles like in 2013?2014?. This year it will be DTs? So that’s a flawed argument because I never said it and that it’s different from year to year. The only thing that stays consistent is it’s NEVER Center.