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How long does Philly stick with Wentz before going back to Foles?

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I did read what you wrote.
You said "One game in there career means he’s better. Fucking hilarious dude. One game? Okie dokie"

So what part did I not read?

Yes you bringing up stats in this thread from ONE GAME doesn’t prove Dak is better. WTF does that have to do with Dak not having more then one game better then Wentz. You posted stats from one game. How your brain turned that into me saying Dak hasn’t had more then one game better then Wentz is baffling
 

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Yes you bringing up stats in this thread from ONE GAME doesn’t prove Dak is better. WTF does that have to do with Dak not having more then one game better then Wentz. You posted stats from one game. How your brain turned that into me saying Dak hasn’t had more then one game better then Wentz is baffling
One game in CAREER.
Learn to read your own statements MORON
 

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One game in CAREER.
Learn to read your own statements MORON

You just can’t just say, “My bad”. You came on here posting stats from one game. I said you can’t use stats from one game to say Dak is better.
How can that even remotely be me saying Dak has only played one game better in his career. It’s not even close to what I was saying.... but you just can’t do it. You just can’t say , “Oh, my bad”. You’ll fight and fight and fight even when you know you’re wrong. It’s bizarre. What happened to you in your life where you can’t even say “Woops. My bad”.
 

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You just can’t just say, “My bad”. You came on here posting stats from one game. I said you can’t use stats from one game to say Dak is better.
How can that even remotely be me saying Dak has only played one game better in his career. It’s not even close to what I was saying.... but you just can’t do it. You just can’t say , “Oh, my bad”. You’ll fight and fight and fight even when you know you’re wrong. It’s bizarre. What happened to you in your life where you can’t even say “Woops. My bad”.


Why should say My Bad? I'm not the one who said Dak only had ONE game BETTER than Wentz in their careers.
 

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Why should say My Bad? I'm not the one who said Dak only had ONE game BETTER than Wentz in their careers.

You’re just being a dick now and rendered your input on this board as meaningless. I clearly explained it to you but you just don’t have the confidence to be like, “I read it wrong. My fault”. Stupid man... you and I disagreed on a lot and that’s fine but now you’re just another Handicappers. Pointless.
 

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You’re just being a dick now and rendered your input on this board as meaningless. I clearly explained it to you but you just don’t have the confidence to be like, “I read it wrong. My fault”. Stupid man... you and I disagreed on a lot and that’s fine but now you’re just another Handicappers. Pointless.

Please explain what you meant when you wrote “in their careers”.

That’s a phrase YOU wrote. Words have meaning. What is the meaning of those words in that context?
 

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You’re just being a dick now and rendered your input on this board as meaningless. I clearly explained it to you but you just don’t have the confidence to be like, “I read it wrong. My fault”. Stupid man... you and I disagreed on a lot and that’s fine but now you’re just another Handicappers. Pointless.


Fuck you dipshit. You’re a moron
 

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Please explain what you meant when you wrote “in their careers”.

That’s a phrase YOU wrote. Words have meaning. What is the meaning of those words in that context?

Manster was comparing Dak and Wentz. He brought up their stats from one game and I said you can’t use stats from one game in their careers and say Dak is better.

It’s like if Nick Sudfeld has a great game and I say Nick Sudfeld has 5
TDs today and Dak only had one today. So Sudfeld is a better QB. You then come post just because Sudfeld had one better game this week it doesn’t mean Sudfeld is better then Dak. Get it?
 

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Manster was comparing Dak and Wentz. He brought up their stats from one game and I said you can’t use stats from one game in their careers and say Dak is better.

It’s like if Nick Sudfeld has a great game and I say Nick Sudfeld has 5
TDs today and Dak only had one today. So Sudfeld is a better QB. You then come post just because Sudfeld had one better game this week it doesn’t mean Sudfeld is better then Dak. Get it?

So use stats from their ENTIRE careers

Oh wait, you’ll be disappointed in those results as well
 
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i have nothing going on in my life until the raps sixers game tomorrow. been a while since i've had the pleasure of your acquaintance, how are you doing my friend?

Staying up late and watching Moana so I guess things have been better.

Big game tomorrow. Maybe Butler can break the crappy luck they’ve seemed to have against Toronto.
 

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alright @PhoenixEagles1

Lets start with the O-line argument.
You claimed the O-Line was no good. Then it shifted to they werent good at pass blocking.
ProfootballFocus ranks them as the #9 overall line. thats top third of the league. Yes they say they are slipping. THey slipped 1 whole spot in three weeks. THEY ARE A GOOD LINE.

Your premise that profootballfocus sucks is based on your personal disagreement with their ranking of brandon graham. 1 whole player in the thousands of metrics they do. Its a bullshit argument. You cannot invalidate a whole company based on a single ranking Also professionals, yes like the eagles, pay them for their services. I think they both know more than you. I'll stick with they are a top third unit in the NFL.

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Now lets go back to the center argument.

I can find numerous analysts listing the most important positions. Center is not last. But lets forget that fact. Lets take a look at your rationale. Again, your whole premise is based on 1 thing. The NFL draft. Centers arent drafted high, or early, therefore they arent as important. Ok got it.

Pass rushers are drafted more often, and earlier than qb's on average. So they have to be more important than QB's. Its a must because the draft is all that matters. But you disagree and argue that more pass rushers are required than qb's.

SHOCKING, there's more too it than draft position? team needs, postional needs, schemes, talent pool. Not to mention centers are often converted guards and tackles from college, meaning they are drafted as such, not as centers.

Yet you continue to claim the draft is all that matters, but refute other claims about the draft, even when they are fact.

You cant have it both ways. your draft argument is bogus. please come up with another argument. because by your own logic, qb's arent as important as pass rushers.

Ok I’m finally answering your last point. I’ve continually said Center never get drafted high. Not one in the top 14 in 50 years. Then you come back with DEs get drafted more then QBs so you are saying that DE is more important then QB. This is where you are completely wrong and put an idea out there that I never said or implied. Never once did I say the more a position gets drafted early the more important they are. I don’t know where you even came up with that idea. This year DTs are going to dominate the top picks and they are not more important then DE... it’s just a great year for DTs. So this entire idea by you that because a position gets drafted MORE means they are more important.
Never once did I say that or insinuate that. All I ever said is Center never goes really high because they simply aren’t as important.
I have a better word to illustrate my point and that’s impact. Centers do not have a big impact on a team like the other positions. They just aren’t huge game changers. If they were huge game changers at least one team in the last 50 years would take them in the top 14. Every single position including has gone in the top 14 except Centers, Punters and Kickers and I just can’t fathom how people are saying, “Oh, that means nothing”. If there was a team out there that believed “Man if we had a really good Center we’d be competitive yet not one team in over 50 years, over 700 picks said let’s use a top pick on a Center cause a great one would make us awesome.
Never once did I say the amount of player positions that go in the top 14 are the most important. All I said was if a Center was so important a team would say “Let’s get a Center early because then we will be a good team. 700 draft picks and not once was that said by any of the 32 teams.
 

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PhoenixEagles1 said:
Manster was comparing Dak and Wentz. He brought up their stats from one game and I said you can’t use stats from one game in their careers and say Dak is better.

It’s like if Nick Sudfeld has a great game and I say Nick Sudfeld has 5
TDs today and Dak only had one today. So Sudfeld is a better QB. You then come post just because Sudfeld had one better game this week it doesn’t mean Sudfeld is better then Dak. Get it?
So use stats from their ENTIRE careers

Oh wait, you’ll be disappointed in those results as well
 

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"the person that hikes the ball and calls out blocking assignments isn't important and NEVER gets drafted in first round"

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You’re just being a dick now and rendered your input on this board as meaningless. I clearly explained it to you but you just don’t have the confidence to be like, “I read it wrong. My fault”. Stupid man... you and I disagreed on a lot and that’s fine but now you’re just another Handicappers. Pointless.
If beating you raw with facts is being a dick, then yes I'm being a dick.

And you continue to show you're a moron.
 

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Ok I’m finally answering your last point. I’ve continually said Center never get drafted high. Not one in the top 14 in 50 years. Then you come back with DEs get drafted more then QBs so you are saying that DE is more important then QB. This is where you are completely wrong and put an idea out there that I never said or implied. Never once did I say the more a position gets drafted early the more important they are. I don’t know where you even came up with that idea. This year DTs are going to dominate the top picks and they are not more important then DE... it’s just a great year for DTs. So this entire idea by you that because a position gets drafted MORE means they are more important.
Never once did I say that or insinuate that. All I ever said is Center never goes really high because they simply aren’t as important.
I have a better word to illustrate my point and that’s impact. Centers do not have a big impact on a team like the other positions. They just aren’t huge game changers. If they were huge game changers at least one team in the last 50 years would take them in the top 14. Every single position including has gone in the top 14 except Centers, Punters and Kickers and I just can’t fathom how people are saying, “Oh, that means nothing”. If there was a team out there that believed “Man if we had a really good Center we’d be competitive yet not one team in over 50 years, over 700 picks said let’s use a top pick on a Center cause a great one would make us awesome.
Never once did I say the amount of player positions that go in the top 14 are the most important. All I said was if a Center was so important a team would say “Let’s get a Center early because then we will be a good team. 700 draft picks and not once was that said by any of the 32 teams.
Well trying to tell you over & over again drafting players vs. Position importance is two different things is like :frusty:

So I will merely move on to the bold print. When you read this comment you now know how clueless you are about the position.
Bad center play or bad center calls, affect the guards & tackles play. Once the Oline play is affected. That affects the QBs directly. RBs as well. these things affect the WRs. Centers & QBs affect the whole offense. but I guess that isnt a very big impact.
Hell some might even argue some bad center plays has ruined young QBs careers. But hey. if you use top or high picks on QBs & they get shell shocked & ruined. At least we know that really isnt a big impact.

Really after reading the bold print, there is really no reason anyone should ever have to listen to you speak about centers again.
 

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@Manster7588 can you please give me the exact quote again?
 
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