Horrible SS contracts of past and present collide - NYY @ TEX 7/27-7/30

[WastinSomeTime]

Missed on the Price speculation, but I was just about sure JD was gonna land Hamels. Still not sure I liked giving up as much as he did, but the salary the Philllies assumed and the $ makes it a bit more sensible. Still trying to wrap my brain around it. If the rotation guys do make it back in Holland and Perez and are performing well after the injuries, a rotation of Darvish, Hamels, Hollland, Perez and Lewis/Gonzalez would be pretty good I would think. Then a RH bat and BP help might round this team into something

Don't wear yourself out. We will not really know how this trade worked for both teams for a while. I am just going to be positive about it and hope Hamels gives us a big shot in the arm. Yeah, pun intended.

 

[Bmurph]

Pirates Pursuing Joakim Soria Trade

The Pirates and Tigers are nearing a trade that would send Joakim Soria to Pittsburgh, reports MLive.com’s James Schmehl (via Twitter). Rob Biertempfel of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review had recently reported (also via Twitter) that the Bucs had interest in acquiring Soria.

The Pirates have been known to be interested in bullpen help since last week and swung a minor deal to add Joe Blanton to the mix last night, but Soria would represent a much higher-profile addition to the Pittsburgh ‘pen. A free agent at season’s end, the 31-year-old Soria is earning $7MM this season. He began the year as the Tigers’ primary setup option, but Joe Nathan blew out his arm in the early stages of the season, and Soria has seamlessly returned to a ninth-inning role with which he is quite familiar.

It appears Soria will need to hire some movers again, he should have somebody on speed dial

 

[saddles]

Welcome to the American League Mr. Hamels.

Here are your numbers against the American League over 31 games in your career.

An 8-15 record with an ERA of 4.73 and a WHIP of 1.36. You allow a batting average against of .280 and a slugging percentage against of .495. You have allowed an OPS of .824. Good luck young man.

 

[PDay8810]

Welcome to the American League Mr. Hamels.

Here are your numbers against the American League over 31 games in your career.

An 8-15 record with an ERA of 4.73 and a WHIP of 1.36. You allow a batting average against of .280 and a slugging percentage against of .495. You have allowed an OPS of .824. Good luck young man.

MAN!...well they gotta get better, right?

 

[Bmurph]

• Yovani Gallardo is likely to be dealt, with the Dodgers, Blue Jays and Cubs interested; the Cubs may be looking toward 2016 more than this season.

Not sure I would want to deal with the Cubs again

 

[WastinSomeTime]

Pirates Pursuing Joakim Soria Trade

The Pirates and Tigers are nearing a trade that would send Joakim Soria to Pittsburgh, reports MLive.com’s James Schmehl (via Twitter). Rob Biertempfel of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review had recently reported (also via Twitter) that the Bucs had interest in acquiring Soria.

The Pirates have been known to be interested in bullpen help since last week and swung a minor deal to add Joe Blanton to the mix last night, but Soria would represent a much higher-profile addition to the Pittsburgh ‘pen. A free agent at season’s end, the 31-year-old Soria is earning $7MM this season. He began the year as the Tigers’ primary setup option, but Joe Nathan blew out his arm in the early stages of the season, and Soria has seamlessly returned to a ninth-inning role with which he is quite familiar.

It appears Soria will need to hire some movers again, he should have somebody on speed dial

Saw just now on MLB that Soria is going to the Pirates.

 

[Bmurph]

Welcome to the American League Mr. Hamels.

Here are your numbers against the American League over 31 games in your career.

An 8-15 record with an ERA of 4.73 and a WHIP of 1.36. You allow a batting average against of .280 and a slugging percentage against of .495. You have allowed an OPS of .824. Good luck young man.

You think JD missed these numbers?

 

[WastinSomeTime]

Welcome to the American League Mr. Hamels.

Here are your numbers against the American League over 31 games in your career.

An 8-15 record with an ERA of 4.73 and a WHIP of 1.36. You allow a batting average against of .280 and a slugging percentage against of .495. You have allowed an OPS of .824. Good luck young man.

I guess we will just have to wait and see. Jake Thompson at AA has a 4.72 ERA with a BA against of .272 and a WHIP of 1.41 this year. Time will tell how this all works out.

 

[saddles]

You think JD missed these numbers?

No. I think he ignored them. Sometimes it appears that he seems to think NL pitchers will pitch to the same level, numbers wise, in the AL that they did in the NL.

The splits with Hamels is even more pronounced than usual. A lot more.

 

[jta4437]

• Yovani Gallardo is likely to be dealt, with the Dodgers, Blue Jays and Cubs interested; the Cubs may be looking toward 2016 more than this season.

Not sure I would want to deal with the Cubs again

At least prospects are going there other this way this time and they have some solid ones; Gleyber Torres (SS) and Willson Contreras (C) would be nice

 

[jta4437]

No. I think he ignored them. Sometimes it appears that he seems to think NL pitchers will pitch to the same level, numbers wise, in the AL that they did in the NL.

The splits with Hamels is even more pronounced than usual. A lot more.

Everyone said the same about Gallardo, might as well let it play out at this point

 

[Bmurph]

Saw just now on MLB that Soria is going to the Pirates.

5:26pm: The deal will send one minor leaguer back to the Tigers, tweets FOX’s Jon Morosi.

 

[WastinSomeTime]

At least prospects are going there other this way this time and they have some solid ones; Gleyber Torres (SS) and Willson Contreras (C) would be nice

I know about a number of their young players but have to admit I do not know much about these two.

 

[Xx srs bsns xX]

Everyone said the same about Gallardo, might as well let it play out at this point

But it doesnt fit his rhetoric/agenda about holding on to the "future"...
I just see his posts as cannon fodder right now...easier to just ignore.


Cause its all a bunch of right now.

 

[jta4437]

I know about a number of their young players but have to admit I do not know much about these two.

Currently #2 & 11 in their minor league system according to mlb.com

 

[saddles]

Everyone said the same about Gallardo, might as well let it play out at this point

Gallardo's numbers the past 3 seasons have been fairly decent against the American League. ERAs of 3.77, 3.46 and 3.38 with WHIPS of 1.23, 1.08 and 1.34. Batting averages against of .237, .227 and .257. He seems to be accustomed to doing fairly well against the American League.

 

[jta4437]

But it doesnt fit his rhetoric/agenda about holding on to the "future"...
I just see his posts as cannon fodder right now...easier to just ignore.


Cause its all a bunch of right now.

I know he was a big Williams fan, as was I, but his future was limited I think due to his atrocious plate discipline, he improved to a 7% walk rate from 4% and cut his strikeout rate from 31% to 20% but he's going to be fighting that battle as he gets to AAA and the majors, he'll be a fine player, but unless he makes more leaps and bounds in those areas he's limited and will get exposed

I soured on Thompson a tad this year, but I really hate giving up on Alfaro, but hopefully Telis is given some more opportunities going forward, I think his offense is playable at catcher but he's solid at throwing out runners and needs to work on his pitch framing, but he's solid

 

[jta4437]

Gallardo's numbers the past 3 seasons have been fairly decent against the American League. ERAs of 3.77, 3.46 and 3.38 with WHIPS of 1.23, 1.08 and 1.34. Batting averages against of .237, .227 and .257. He seems to be accustomed to doing fairly well against the American League.

But everyone said he would implode in the AL and it hasn't happened

 

[romeo212000]

I do wonder why they haven't made this trade official yet.

 

[WastinSomeTime]

Gallardo's numbers the past 3 seasons have been fairly decent against the American League. ERAs of 3.77, 3.46 and 3.38 with WHIPS of 1.23, 1.08 and 1.34. Batting averages against of .237, .227 and .257. He seems to be accustomed to doing fairly well against the American League.

I am not saying you are wrong in your concerns about Hamels but as for me I am glad to take the risk. We are hurting in this area. We can talk all we want about the guys who are on the mend but until I see Darvish, Holland and Perez back in form I have my own concerns there. And I really do not want a rotation where we have 1 or 2 decent starters and the rest are guys who once they get to 2 strikes can't make it happen. We will be spinning our wheels for sure.