Horrible SS contracts of past and present collide - NYY @ TEX 7/27-7/30

[saddles]

Hello there mr hindsight. I suppose he should've known Choo would be a giant flop, that Elvis would regress to a below replacement level player, Darvish and Perez would need TJ, That Holland would have a freak accident followed by an unforseeable shoulder injury, and Profar would be unable to stay healthy among other things I don't have time to type out.

The only thing I lay entirely at his feet is the bullpen. That mess is his baby, and he definitely should've built us a better one. It's easy to sit in front of your computer 2 years later and point to what should've been done. Fact is, if just a third of those unforseeable events don't happen then this team is certainly in the race. But keep on with that, bud.

Not hindsight at all. I said all along that I didn't like those moves. I expected Choo to be better than he has been and still didn't like the signing. The moves between the 2013 and 2014 seasons were simply not enough to make a big enough difference.

Derek Holland being healthy all this year would not have made that big of a difference overall. Not enough to make us major contenders for sure. Profar being healthy would have simply kept Roogie in the minors so I don't think even he would have made a big difference. Also, you are always going to suffer some injuries. We have not been unfairly hit with injuries this season at all.

It is easy for you to sit in front of your computer and say I am using hindsight, but I don't operate that way. I had many folks tell me I was being too pessimistic back two offseasons ago. That is they way it always seems to go. If you say the team is making a mistake when it happens then you get blamed for being too pessimistic. Then when you recall what you thought later on you are blamed for using hindsight. You just can't please some folks I guess.

I was criticized soundly for opposing the Choo and the Prince acquisitions when they took place and I was criticized soundly a year ago for complaining that Beltre should have been traded while he still had significant value. So I am not simply using hindsight now.

I still say we should have rebuilt after 2013 unless we were willing to gamble on a lot of free agents. I said it back then as well.

 

[True Rangers Fan]

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Tigers starting over. Just goes to show that no matter how kickass your team is, winning it all is insanely hard.

 

[saddles]

Lots of things will have to go right before this team is good in 2017, lots.

That is correct.

 

[Bmurph]

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Tigers starting over. Just goes to show that no matter how kickass your team is, winning it all is insanely hard.

This after Verlander just had his first good start in a long, long time

 

[scotsman1948]

Hello there mr hindsight. I suppose he should've known Choo would be a giant flop, that Elvis would regress to a below replacement level player, Darvish and Perez would need TJ, That Holland would have a freak accident followed by an unforseeable shoulder injury, and Profar would be unable to stay healthy among other things I don't have time to type out.

The only thing I lay entirely at his feet is the bullpen. That mess is his baby, and he definitely should've built us a better one. It's easy to sit in front of your computer 2 years later and point to what should've been done. Fact is, if just a third of those unforseeable events don't happen then this team is certainly in the race. But keep on with that, bud.

well stated and totally correct

 

[donaldson79]

Everybody needs to tap-the-brakes on Mr. Odor IMO. It's wonderful he's hitting lights-out. I love his attitude, hustle, and it seems he's developed some sense of plan at the plate. However, he still plays a very bad 2nd base, and uses his head for a doorstop at times.

It's not just the error - technically recorded as a hit - from last night. Although, I don't recall seeing anything quite that horrid in a very long time. It is however the fact he's averaging better than an error a week, and the number of balls he doesn't field cleaning, or throw properly seems to be growing. Very concerning to me.

And as far as Perez and Harrison are concerned, most here are not very surprised by what we are/aren't getting, and frankly, I expect to see more of the same for the foreseeable future.

I stated previously, I expect to see 2 steps forward one game, 1 too 2 back the next. Just the way it is for most guys coming off sever injuries.

 

[True Rangers Fan]

Mr. Odor

He's also 21 and wasn't expected to be here at this point. It sucks we're getting his growing pains at the top level, but like you said, I love his bat and his gamesmanship.

 

[DT LUNA]

Everybody needs to tap-the-brakes on Mr. Odor IMO. It's wonderful he's hitting lights-out. I love his attitude, hustle, and it seems he's developed some sense of plan at the plate. However, he still plays a very bad 2nd base, and uses his head for a doorstop at times.

It's not just the error - technically recorded as a hit - from last night. Although, I don't recall seeing anything quite that horrid in a very long time. It is however the fact he's averaging better than an error a week, and or throthe number of balls he doesn't field cleaning,w properly seems to be growing. Very concerning to me.

And as far as Perez and Harrison are concerned, most here are not very surprised by what we are/aren't getting, and frankly, I expect to see more of the same for the foreseeable future.

I stated previously, I expect to see 2 steps forward one game, 1 too 2 back the next. Just the way it is for most guys coming off sever injuries.

Don't think it's time to tap the brakes yet

 

[donaldson79]

6 day games today. That's odd isn't it?

 

[True Rangers Fan]

6 day games today. That's odd isn't it?

There seems to be an inordinate amount of 4 game series starting tomorrow. yeah, pretty strange.

 

[True Rangers Fan]

Wandy DFA'd, Edwards and Claudio back up. Klein back down.

 

[True Rangers Fan]

And BannyRooster brings back the standard lineup tonight...

DDJ - Roogie - Prince - AB - Big Mitch - Hambone - Elvis - Choo - Chirinos

 

[donaldson79]

Wandy DFA'd, Edwards and Claudio back up. Klein back down.

Good.

But do you know what our plan is for Klein? Starter or BP guy?

 

[True Rangers Fan]

But do you know what our plan is for Klein?

Packaged as part of a trade, hopefully. Because they clearly don't seem to know what the fuck to do with the guy.

 

[donaldson79]

Because they clearly don't seem to know what the fuck to do with the guy.

Geez.....that's never happened before.

 

[True Rangers Fan]

Geez.....that's never happened before.

It's like JD is choosing to ignore the wealth of information provided on these very pages.

 

[WastinSomeTime]

He's also 21 and wasn't expected to be here at this point. It sucks we're getting his growing pains at the top level, but like you said, I love his bat and his gamesmanship.

Agree. It's no secret his shortcoming right now is defense. Get that on the up and up and we will have us a solid all around ball player.

 

[saddles]

Good.

But do you know what our plan is for Klein? Starter or BP guy?

He is just another in a long line of Texas Rangers starter-relief pitchers.

 

[WastinSomeTime]

Good.

But do you know what our plan is for Klein? Starter or BP guy?

You act like we have a plan.

 

[saddles]

Wandy might be fine after taking some time to rest. He has already pitched way more innings than he did last year and he is right at the amount of innings this year that he pitched the past two years combined.