Harvin out for NFC title game.

[Midnightangel]

Should come as no surprise, really.

Injury roundup: Percy Harvin ruled out for Seahawks - NFL.com

 

[Davis_Mike]

Not surprised. I called it on Sunday. The guy is soft & with his history, there was no chance he was going to play this weekend.

 

[gowazzu02]

Not surprised. I called it on Sunday. The guy is soft & with his history, there was no chance he was going to play this weekend.

Concussion protocol, wasn't his call.

What a terrible trade tho.

 

[cdumler7]

Concussion protocol, wasn't his call.

What a terrible trade tho.

Players have said though beating the Concussion tests are pretty easy and so if they want to play they know how to get around them.

 

[Podunkparte]

Players have said though beating the Concussion tests are pretty easy and so if they want to play they know how to get around them.

Claiming he doesn't want to play is just stupid

 

[Davis_Mike]

Concussion protocol, wasn't his call.

What a terrible trade tho.

Yes I understand the concussion protocol. Fitz just went through it the week leading up to the Seattle game. The difference is that Fitz isn't soft nor has a history of concussions or migraines. This is exactly what I was trying to convey in the thread in the Seahawk section about this subject earlier this week. There was zero chance he was going to play in this game.

And yes this was a bad trade. Wait till his cap number balloons next year. The good news is that a lot of other teams tend to also make bad trades over the years(Kolb).

 

[darken65]

Players have said though beating the Concussion tests are pretty easy and so if they want to play they know how to get around them.

The test has changed a bit. Peyton would say in the past....just act stupid when you are normal and the test will cover the issue. This is not the case anymore. Those days are over.

 

[dkmightyhammer]

His history of injury aside, that hit that Bush put on him last week could have rocked anyone. If Seattle does manage to win this weekend Harvin will have had 3 weeks to get healthy for the SB.

 

[TheDman875]

Not too many people (or players for that matter) would have gotten up from those two questionable shots he took. I say questionable because they showed Payton and the coaches high fiving the defender on camera after taking him out of the game in spite of a big 15 yard penalty to keep a drive alive that led to a score which (along with the 2 missed field goals) proved to be the difference maker in Seattle advancing to the NFCC instead of the Saints. Whether he's soft or just full of bad luck the last 2 years is irrelevant. He gives the Seahawks a nice luxury when he's on the field, but Seattle will be fine either way.

 

[cdumler7]

Claiming he doesn't want to play is just stupid

What in his history in the league suggests that he would want to play? Many coaches have questioned his toughness and desire to actually want to play.

 

[dkmightyhammer]

What in his history in the league suggests that he would want to play? Many coaches have questioned his toughness and desire to actually want to play.

Well he did come back into the game last week after taking one of the hardest hits I've seen this season. It would have been very easy for him to just go into the locker room and call it a day.

 

[TheDman875]

Well he did come back into the game last week after taking one of the hardest hits I've seen this season. It would have been very easy for him to just go into the locker room and call it a day.

I was going to mention getting back on to the field in half the time it normally takes to recover from that hip surgery he had as well.

 

[Podunkparte]

What in his history in the league suggests that he would want to play? Many coaches have questioned his toughness and desire to actually want to play.

It hasn't stopped being stupid

 

[cdumler7]

It hasn't stopped being stupid

Well it hasn't stopped being a stupid trade so I guess it is a wash. Every team makes mistakes and there just are certain players who are not as interested as others in playing. Look at Haynseworth. The guy had all the talent in the world but not much desire to play. Now that doesn't mean that the other signings the Seahawks made this year weren't great ones such as the 2 DE's that have been huge for that defense. Every team has at least one bad signing a year I would say. Obviously hasn't hurt the Seahawks from having success.

Now in saying that I have watched the hit and it was pretty brutal. I don't blame him for sitting out this week and I think long term is the best for him and the team especially if they win on Sunday and maybe have him for the Super Bowl. Just listening to players talk though they do seem to hint that the tests they have to do for concussions aren't that hard to fake your way through. They are getting better at telling when players are faking so maybe that was the case with him.

 

[gowazzu02]

Do you really think he wouldn't want to play in the NFCCG?

I mean really? Really? I could be swayed into thinking he wouldn't be too hot to play for a Minnesota team that is playing out the string with Christian Ponder at qb. But come on, one game to go to biggest game in the world? (sorry soccer fans)

 

[gowazzu02]

Well it hasn't stopped being a stupid trade so I guess it is a wash. Every team makes mistakes and there just are certain players who are not as interested as others in playing. Look at Haynseworth. The guy had all the talent in the world but not much desire to play. Now that doesn't mean that the other signings the Seahawks made this year weren't great ones such as the 2 DE's that have been huge for that defense. Every team has at least one bad signing a year I would say. Obviously hasn't hurt the Seahawks from having success.

Now in saying that I have watched the hit and it was pretty brutal. I don't blame him for sitting out this week and I think long term is the best for him and the team especially if they win on Sunday and maybe have him for the Super Bowl. Just listening to players talk though they do seem to hint that the tests they have to do for concussions aren't that hard to fake your way through. They are getting better at telling when players are faking so maybe that was the case with him.

Also if the "tests are being faked" by players, Im sure Goodell and the nfl legal team will use that when they get dragged back to court after their concussion lawsuit settlement was thrown out.......

 

[Midnightangel]

Concussion protocol, wasn't his call.

What a terrible trade tho.

I agree. Given his history with the Vikings and all that went on there.

 

[cdumler7]

Do you really think he wouldn't want to play in the NFCCG?

I mean really? Really? I could be swayed into thinking he wouldn't be too hot to play for a Minnesota team that is playing out the string with Christian Ponder at qb. But come on, one game to go to biggest game in the world? (sorry soccer fans)

We have seen players walk away from the game caring more about their career after playing than about the almighty dollar or winning the Super Bowl. Heck the Broncos had an OL quit midseason because he didn't want to get hurt even though they were on a path to possibly play for the Super Bowl. Just because us fans care about our team winning that much doesn't always mean the players do. Now I am sure he is seriously concussed from watching the hit and it is the best thing for him and the team to sit. I just said if he absolutely didn't care about his health he would find a way to get into this game. Look at the Saints in the 1st week where they had a player doing everything possible to get back onto the field and just couldn't believe the coaches wouldn't let him. Again I do think he is hurt and shouldn't play.

 

[cwood]

We have seen players walk away from the game caring more about their career after playing than about the almighty dollar or winning the Super Bowl. Heck the Broncos had an OL quit midseason because he didn't want to get hurt even though they were on a path to possibly play for the Super Bowl. Just because us fans care about our team winning that much doesn't always mean the players do. Now I am sure he is seriously concussed from watching the hit and it is the best thing for him and the team to sit. I just said if he absolutely didn't care about his health he would find a way to get into this game. Look at the Saints in the 1st week where they had a player doing everything possible to get back onto the field and just couldn't believe the coaches wouldn't let him. Again I do think he is hurt and shouldn't play.

This is all just nonsense. He suffered a concussion which has nothing to do with being soft and it is 100% out of his control whether he is able to return from it. It's also a little weird to imply that you care more than the players because you are willing to risk their health.

 

[JDM]

Players have said though beating the Concussion tests are pretty easy and so if they want to play they know how to get around them.

This is true. I had enough concussions to get sent to a concussion specialist who works with professional athletes some and did the same tests, and I managed to pass the test while knowing for an absolute fact I was still concussed.