Habs-Sens Series Thread

[DaBoltsNIsles]

I'm sure that factored into his decision (as well as the rabid Montreal fan base). I hope Eller has a quick and full recovery, but I don't agree with this decision at all.

With Eller, Pacioretty & Gionta out of the lineup the Canadiens have plenty of reason to try something. Last night might only be the beginning of a rough & tumble series.

 

[dash]

Shanny video:

Eric Gryba suspended 2 games Video - NHL VideoCenter

Edit: Do you guys think Eller's head with the principal point of contact on that hit?

 

[BOSSMANPC]

Shanny video:

Eric Gryba suspended 2 games Video - NHL VideoCenter

Edit: Do you guys think Eller's head with the principal point of contact on that hit?

No I do not and that is a lame explanation. he is contradicting himself. Damn I've lost a lot of respect for Shanny. That explanation was complete bullshit.

 

[jstewismybastardson]

Edit: Do you guys think Eller's head with the principal point of contact on that hit?

i dont think any of the video that has been shown, shows his head was principle point of contact

looks like sternum / head impact happened at the same time

 

[forty_three]

Shanny video:

Eric Gryba suspended 2 games Video - NHL VideoCenter

Edit: Do you guys think Eller's head with the principal point of contact on that hit?

Now he's just making shit up.

 

[forty_three]

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How bout we hire the Hair Helmet to hand out the discipline?

 

[Comeds]

You could fix that real fast. Give any player that takes someone out a minimum of 10 fucking games and that would stop that bullshit.



That should have NOTHING to do with it. Maybe that's why fans at the Bell Centre act the way they do, screaming for a penalty every time a Hab gets checked. Who's calling the game the refs or the Habs fans.?

I hope Eller makes a quick recovery too.

You cry about the Montreal fans as much as they cry for penalties. BOO! Ole!

The fan base has nothing to do with the suspension. Yeah the league really bends over backwards to appease the Canadian teams.

There's nothing surprising about this ruling at all. Its no different than numerous other suspensions that probably shouldn't have been. I am surprised people are surprised.

 

[Jims_Doors]

Cam Stewart‏@CamStewart2142m
Ended my career with exact same hit as Eller and no penalty, let alone suspension. Glad we are trying to protect @NHL players

He had to retire due to problems with a concussion.

 

[Dacks]

Man, you guys are ridiculous.

Shanahan has given you transparency pretty much unheard of in any sport. He breaks down everything he sees, almost frame by frame, in delivering his judgement, and still you bitch.

Does he always make the correct decision? No. But guess what? NOBODY WILL. It's a judgement call. But at the very least, I think this is the start of a process whereby every hit is essentially publicly reviewed and the decision process is transparent and explained in clear concise terms. That is MASSIVE progress.

On to the hit: the debate is whether or not the principal point of contact is the head. It's definitely not black and white - stop pretending it is. It's simple physics - if he had gotten mostly body, the body would have reacted a certain way. The way Eller's body spins, it's pretty hard to claim that the head didn't at least receive the majority of the force of the check. I mean, Gryba pretty much skates right through the check. If he makes significant contact with the body, that's almost impossible.

And the day of bone-crushing headshots is over - deal with it. I loved the Scott Stevens checks as much as any one. But at the time, the worst I thought it did was ruin a career. Now we know better. Concussions can ruin lives. Pronger who can't see straight. NFL and NHL players who have to deal with depression and mental disorders as a result of hits to the head. Rugby players who need to leave signs pointing to their car keys every morning. It doesn't matter if it's a suicide pass - there's no room in a sport like hockey for hits like that. You see a player in a vulnerable position? Are you approaching from the blindside? You better be damn sure it's body to body. Gryba didn't. There wasn't malicious intent, but he could have done more to avoid hitting the head.

I love knockouts. I'm a big MMA fan. But those guys go into the cage/ring knowing what they're up against, and facing their opponents at all times. You can blame Diaz for that pass all you want, but it shouldn't matter. Eller did nothing wrong, and had no way to prepare or defend himself for that hit. If he's hit full on body to body, worst he gets is winded. Maybe a dislocated shoulder, fine. Might ruin his career, but he's not dealing with headaches and impaired vision for the rest of his life.

With what we know today, there simply has to be more onus on players throwing the bodycheck to avoid headshots, it's that simple.

 

[Dacks]

By the way, I agree that other acts deserve longer suspensions. Shanahan still has to work on that. But in a vacuum, this hit was suspension worthy. And while hitting the ice might have done more damage, it really looks like Eller was unconscious before that point. He was out in the air.

 

[Comeds]

Roloson fooled them again.

 

[elocomotive]

Edit: Do you guys think Eller's head with the principal point of contact on that hit?

He was unconscious before he hit the ice. It makes it hard to argue the head was not. Res ipsa loquitur.

 

[Dacks]

Edit: Do you guys think Eller's head with the principal point of contact on that hit?

By the way, "principal" doesn't necessarilly mean "first". You could argue that the "first" point of contact was the chest, but based on how Gryba skates right through the check, and how Eller's body rotates, it really looks like most of the contact went into the head.

 

[BOSSMANPC]

You cry about the Montreal fans as much as they cry for penalties. BOO! Ole!

The fan base has nothing to do with the suspension. Yeah the league really bends over backwards to appease the Canadian teams.

There's nothing surprising about this ruling at all. Its no different than numerous other suspensions that probably shouldn't have been. I am surprised people are surprised.

Comeds I just get pissed at the fans IN the Bell Centre. That's been a complaint of mine and many many others for years. It's the fans IN the arena that get on my nerves. Yes, I also hate the Ole song ALMOST as much as that song they play in Chicago when the Hawks score.

I've always had a ton of respect for the Habs organization and as I've said the 76-77 team IMO is the greatest of all time bar none. The organization I respect, the fans in the arena not soo much.

 

[Dacks]

Comeds I just get pissed at the fans IN the Bell Centre. That's been a complaint of mine and many many others for years. It's the fans IN the arena that get on my nerves. Yes, I also hate the Ole song ALMOST as much as that song they play in Chicago when the Hawks score.

I've always had a ton of respect for the Habs organization and as I've said the 76-77 team IMO is the greatest of all time bar none. The organization I respect, the fans in the arena not soo much.

I'm the same. All my friends are Habs fans. Great fans. Super knowledgable. Habs are my team after the Penguins.

But I should really watch their home games on mute. Unbearable.

 

[Comeds]

Comeds I just get pissed at the fans IN the Bell Centre. That's been a complaint of mine and many many others for years. It's the fans IN the arena that get on my nerves. Yes, I also hate the Ole song ALMOST as much as that song they play in Chicago when the Hawks score.

I've always had a ton of respect for the Habs organization and as I've said the 76-77 team IMO is the greatest of all time bar none. The organization I respect, the fans in the arena not soo much.

Oh I know what you meant. I still think you complain about them as much as they complain. Every fucking game you watch in Montreal you complain. They are singing! They are booing! Remember how when I would say (repeattedly I admit) how much I hate listening to your announcer you used to point out there was a mute and volume button on the TV? Right back at you.

And by the way, your own fans can be a bit bitchy too you know.

 

[IPostedWhat]

And by the way, your own fans can be a bit bitchy too you know.

I prefer sassy.

And since no one asked my opinion, I'm going to say that too many people bitch and complain about too many things that are petty or avoidable.

YOLO people......YOLO!!!!

 

[Comeds]

I prefer sassy.

And since no one asked my opinion, I'm going to say that too many people bitch and complain about too many things that are petty or avoidable.

YOLO people......YOLO!!!!

You're right.

Well 'sloppy seconds' is on over in ABC, back in an hour.

 

[KennyBanyeah]

I've been away from technology all day and I have to say I'm surprised at the suspension.

That being said Gryba is hardly a tough loss for the Sens. This will impact the games very little. I just think Shanahan exhibits absolutely no consistency.

 

[IPostedWhat]

Well 'sloppy seconds' is on over in ABC, back in an hour.

IGGY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!