Draft Lottery

[DJ]

He should be trying to package and move up.

Yeah, Smith would be better for OKC than Holmgren whom I think can bust easily.

 

[Mecca]

He should be trying to package and move up.

That would be interesting.

If they could get that Clippers pick into Keegan Murray territory....

That would be nice.

Also think they might take a swing at Ayton too.

 

[Mecca]

That's a move Portland would make too. They are rebuilding but I'm sure with Lillard there they want a quick rebuild. They would make trades if needed

Absolutely.

They tried to get Grant at the deadline.

Gotta think Detroit will be all over that.

Dame, Simons, Nurk, Grant and Hart....

Just need a bench.

 

[Shanemansj13]

He should be trying to package and move up.

Yep back in the top 10

 

[Mecca]

Yeah, Smith would be better for OKC than Holmgren whom I think can bust easily.

Eh....

The Magic need.....

Well, everything.

So, maybe.

But, I think they will keep the pick , take Jabari and try like Hell to deal Issacs.

 

[Mecca]

Yep back in the top 10

Kings may want to move back.

Can't imagine them taking Ivey.

But, they almost have to at that spot.

They aren't like Toronto.

Everybody thought Scottie was a reach, he was not.

They have a track record of drafting well under Masai.

Sacto has shit the bed so many times, Bagley being absolutely FLAGRANT, they can't miss.

They just can't.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

Absolutely.

They tried to get Grant at the deadline.

Gotta think Detroit will be all over that.

Dame, Simons, Nurk, Grant and Hart....

Just need a bench.

If Murray is there even more so. But if the Kings take Murray and Ivey goes to Detroit maybe then Detroit would look at AJ Griffin from Duke with the 7.

 

[DJ]

Eh....

The Magic need.....

Well, everything.

So, maybe.

But, I think they will keep the pick , take Jabari and try like Hell to deal Issacs.

OKC's best bet if Orlando decided to go with Holgren and then the Thunder could take Smith without having to trade up to get him.

Probably wishful thinking.

 

[Mecca]

If Murray is there even more so. But if the Kings take Murray and Ivey goes to Detroit maybe then Detroit would look at AJ Griffin from Duke with the 7.

Yeah, I really like that scenario for you.

I really like Grant.

But, getting a top 7 pick for him, in a pretty deep draft, would be a coup.

 

[Mecca]

OKC's best bet if Orlando decided to go with Holgren and then the Thunder could take Smith without having to trade up to get him.

Probably wishful thinking.

Orlando won't take Holmgren #1.

It would be a Tatum Celtics situation.

Anyone moving up would likely be targeting Jabari.

If Chet is their guy, which I just don't believe with Bamba and Carter Jr on the roster, why not get another asset and still get the player you want?

With hat being said, neither Bamba nor Carter are good enough to make a team hesitate in drafting a guy they think is a franchise player, just because he plays the same position.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

Yeah, I really like that scenario for you.

I really like Grant.

But, getting a top 7 pick for him, in a pretty deep draft, would be a coup.

The thing is detroit was a pretty decent post all star break team. When Cade and Bey started clicking and Hayes coming off the bench. I don't know that they see Grant as a long term piece though, especially given his seemingly outrageous salary demands on the horizon.

I'd prefer they deal him for a pick as even with the strides they made for about 20 games last year their window is still a year or two away.

 

[Mecca]

The thing is detroit was a pretty decent post all star break team. When Cade and Bey started clicking and Hayes coming off the bench. I don't know that they see Grant as a long term piece though, especially given his seemingly outrageous salary demands on the horizon.

I'd prefer they deal him for a pick as even with the strides they made for about 20 games last year their window is still a year or two away.

Absolutely.

Memphis should be the blueprint.

 

[Mecca]

Yeah, Smith would be better for OKC than Holmgren whom I think can bust easily.

I don't think he will be a bust.

Might never be All NBA.

But, can be really good in a few years.

I thought about it a bit more last night and came up with a different comp.

Jermaine Oneal.

Do you remember how light in the ass he was coming into the league?

But, I acknowledge that he could go out like Johnathon Bender as well.

I just don't see that.

I'm going long ass Tashaun Prince as his floor.

 

[Shanemansj13]

Yeah, I really like that scenario for you.

I really like Grant.

But, getting a top 7 pick for him, in a pretty deep draft, would be a coup.

Yep follow a Cavs 3-4 year plan. Trade Grant for picks. Build around Cade the next 2-3 years and they will be in playoff contention in that time frame if they draft well.

 

[Shanemansj13]

I don't think he will be a bust.

Might never be All NBA.

But, can be really good in a few years.

I thought about it a bit more last night and came up with a different comp.

Jermaine Oneal.

Do you remember how light in the ass he was coming into the league?

But, I acknowledge that he could go out like Johnathon Bender as well.

I just don't see that.

I'm going long ass Tashaun Prince as his floor.

Yeah it's difficult seeing him being a bust. Safe pick but I don't think his ceiling is as high as Smith or Paolo, at least in my mind he doesn't have a greater chance to be great like those two. Never really know. Either way I like the top 3 A LOT.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

Yep follow a Cavs 3-4 year plan. Trade Grant for picks. Build around Cade the next 2-3 years and they will be in playoff contention in that time frame if they draft well.

Ironically they're also the Vegas fav (besides phoenix) to land Ayton. They could go in a few directions this offseason but I agree with both of you I think the slow play is the better bet.

 

[Mecca]

Look at these string beans...lol

 

[Stakesarehigh]

I just didn't like Chet's lack of aggression in the tournament. Looked very tentative at times.

 

[Mecca]

Yep follow a Cavs 3-4 year plan. Trade Grant for picks. Build around Cade the next 2-3 years and they will be in playoff contention in that time frame if they draft well.

Yep.

Cavs are another great example of built, not bought.

They drafted well and didn't try to skip steps.

The Rubio, Allen and even Levert trades were shrewd moves made to compliment what you already had, not to overhaul the entire roster like Brooklyn tried to do twice.

 

[Mecca]

I just didn't like Chet's lack of aggression in the tournament. Looked very tentative at times.

He's gonna be more Allen/Capela less Embiid /Joker.

That's not what you want in a #1 overall pick.

But, if Jabari is gone, I like Chet for the Thunder.

He will have time to fill out there.