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They play crowder too much.... He has no shot, so it feels like there is only 4 guys on the floor when the mavericks have the ball. I think the mavericks usually give him 20 minutes a game when he should be getting only 10.

He has a solid jumper, he just can't get to the basket which neutralizes his jumper a bit

Agreed he should play less but with Ledo maybe they show a little faith next year
 

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Dirk signs officially for 3 years and 25 million, 5 million less than anticipated, didn't free up a ton but just a little bit more to throw at someone like Williams who many on here want, while potentially saving the 2.7 million exception for someone else, or vice versa
 

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Dirk signs officially for 3 years and 25 million, 5 million less than anticipated, didn't free up a ton but just a little bit more to throw at someone like Williams who many on here want, while potentially saving the 2.7 million exception for someone else, or vice versa
Parsons better worship the ground Dirk walks on, because the better player will be making considerably less next three years.
 

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I haven't heard any rumblings lately, but it would be nice to acquire Rondo. I think adding him would catapult us to one of the top 3 spots in the West and a legitimate contender. Plus he's a FA next year so you would be able to give him the 5th year if they chose to.

I did read that the Jet would like to return.
 

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Mavs signed Rashard Lewis to a 1 year deal

Just saw that too. It would seem that Dallas is becoming the destination for former stars chasing that final ring. Jefferson and Lewis are on board, Mo Williams wants to sign here, and JET is openly pining to return as well.

I just hope they didn't give Lewis more than the vet minimum. He can still hit 3's, but he doesn't do much more than that. I'd rather them use their Room Exception on a big man who can play some defense or a point guard to provide insurance for the injury-prone Harris and the buffet-prone Felton.
 

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Just saw that too. It would seem that Dallas is becoming the destination for former stars chasing that final ring. Jefferson and Lewis are on board, Mo Williams wants to sign here, and JET is openly pining to return as well.

I just hope they didn't give Lewis more than the vet minimum. He can still hit 3's, but he doesn't do much more than that. I'd rather them use their Room Exception on a big man who can play some defense or a point guard to provide insurance for the injury-prone Harris and the buffet-prone Felton.

It is for the veterans minimum.
 

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The Dallas Mavericks had a two-year, $20 million offer on the table to Stephenson, contingent on the Houston Rockets matching their offer for forward Chandler Parsons. If Houston had matched, Stephenson would have signed with Dallas, sources said.
 

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Dirk signs officially for 3 years and 25 million, 5 million less than anticipated, didn't free up a ton but just a little bit more to throw at someone like Williams who many on here want, while potentially saving the 2.7 million exception for someone else, or vice versa

Dirk never gets the credit he deserves. If he played for the Knicks or Lakers and did this, they'd spooge all over themselves for a month. Instead....crickets
 

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Best, worst FA deals so far
Tom Haberstroh [ARCHIVE]

ESPN Insider | July 17, 2014

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The numbers say Carmelo Anthony's contract was the worst of the NBA offseason so far.
After two weeks of free agency, most of the big fish have been reeled in. LeBron James, Carmelo Anthony, Chris Bosh and over 50 other free agents have agreed to deals. Now, it's time to weigh in and see who hauled in a catch -- and who would have been better off tossing their bounty back.


Best deals

Patty Mills, San Antonio Spurs | Age: 25

Contract: Three years, $12M | AAV: $4 million

2013-14 value: 5.8 WAR | Expected AAV: $9.8M

Annual surplus value: +$5.8M

The Spurs just keep on Spursing. Mills was the NBA's best backup point guard last season. Playing behind future Hall of Famer Tony Parker, Mills led all Spurs in 3-pointers and averaged 19.5 points per 36 minutes. At just 24 years old, he was a key cog in his team's NBA Finals win.

Teams would normally fight for this sort of young talent. But the Spurs nabbed him for $4 million a year, a rate cheaper than 34-year-old Caron Butler and 32-year-old Chris Kaman received from the Detroit Pistons and Portland Trail Blazers, respectively.

Granted, Mills underwent shoulder surgery, which should knock him out for the first few months of the season. But the Spurs shrewdly took the long view here, locking in a young player to a multiyear contract. Mills is one of the best 3-point shooters in the league. He's entering his prime, and the Spurs got him for 50 percent off Avery Bradley. That's highway robbery.


Dirk Nowitzki, Dallas Mavericks | Age: 36

Contract: Three years, $25M | AAV: $8.3M

2013-14 value: 14.0 WAR | Expected AAV: $13.3M

Annual surplus value: +$5.0M

When the numbers on Nowitzki's contract first came out, teams rolled their eyes. That's when we thought the Mavs were giving Nowitzki -- a likely first-ballot Hall of Famer and one of the best teammates in basketball -- $10 million per. Then we all found out that the actual price was even lower: $8.3 million.

Nowitzki is hardly a spring chicken. But he's still one of the best big men in the league. And this season, he'll make less than Jordan Hill.

This is a coup for the Mavs. According to real plus-minus, just four players delivered more wins last season than Dirk did. For that top-flight production, he'll receive less over the next three seasons combined than Kobe Bryant will make in 2014-15 alone.

That sound you hear is Mark Cuban's Cyber Dust account buzzing with a barrage of hate messages from around the league.


Channing Frye, Orlando Magic | Age: 31

Contract: Four years, $32M | AAV: $8M

2013-14 value: 10.8 WAR | Expected AAV: $12.2M

Annual surplus value: +$4.2M

Let's just get this out of the way: Frye is an RPM darling. As a smart 3-point shooting big man, Frye is a poster boy of the modern NBA, contributing to the scoreboard in ways that aren't fully captured in the box score. The spacing he affords his teammates by drifting on the perimeter simply can't be quantified by conventional stats.

If a championship contender got Frye at this price, we'd probably hear more about it. But because the basement-dwelling Magic grabbed him at a time when they probably shouldn't be giving big money to veterans, the deal won't get its due. It's a fairly long commitment to a 31-year-old, but at just $8 million a year, this could be the Paul Millsap contract of this offseason.


Isaiah Thomas, Phoenix Suns | Age: 25

Contract: Three years, $21M | AAV: $7M

2013-14 value: 7.2 WAR | Expected AAV: $11.1M

Annual surplus value: +$4.1M

This is Asset Accumulation 101 by Phoenix GM Ryan McDonough. Considering the Suns might have Eric Bledsoe and Goran Dragic in their backcourt, acquiring Thomas might seem like point guard gluttony. But smart teams find talent at discount prices, then deal with fit issues later.

With a career scoring average of 19 points per 36 minutes, Thomas has long been one of the best scoring point guards in the league. The Sacramento Kings were focused on his diminutive stature rather than his immense impact. Sacramento outscored opponents when Thomas was on the floor, and lost by 9.7 points per 100 possessions when he hit the pine, according to NBA.com. The Suns will gladly take him at this price.


Vince Carter, Memphis Grizzlies | Age: 37

Contract: Three years, $12M | AAV: $4M

2013-14 value: 8.3 WAR | Expected AAV: $7.8M

Annual surplus value: +$3.8M

When it was clear Mike Miller would take his talents to Cleveland, the Grizzlies went out and found a veteran 3-point shooter to replace him. Carter has quietly aged into one of the NBA's most valuable role players on both ends of the floor. The Grizzlies managed to get him at clearance price. Carter is old, but the Grizzlies did their homework on Hall of Fame wings who were still playing at Carter's age and found the drop-off wasn't as steep as one would expect (think Reggie Miller and Grant Hill). Carter was a strong contributor on both ends of the floor as a Mav and will fit seamlessly in Memphis. Jodie Meeks received $7 million more than Carter. I'd rather have Carter and his 8.3 WAR.


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Over the next two years, Jordan Hill will make more money than Dirk Nowitzki.
Worst deals

Carmelo Anthony, New York Knicks | Age: 30

Contract: Five years, $125M | AAV: $24.8M

2013-14 value: 8.9 WAR | Expected AAV: $10.9M

Annual surplus value: -$13.9M

There are mixed reviews on this contract. Nate Silver at FiveThirtyEight thinks it doomed the Knicks to mediocrity. Bill Simmons at Grantland called Melo one of the game's most underappreciated players and asserted the Knicks are a solid supporting cast away from a title. However, at this money, RPM disagrees: According to the metrics, Anthony will be one of the most overpaid players in the game.

Like most, RPM sees Anthony as a below-average player on the defensive end. As such, he needs to be otherworldly on offense to warrant a $125 million commitment. Anthony's a great scorer, but he rated as only the 18th-best offensive player in the league last season. That's probably a bit unkind, but Melo's age and defensive struggles make this contract a dubious one by any estimation.


Chris Bosh, Miami Heat | Age: 30

Contract: Five years, $118M | AAV: $23.6M

2013-14 value: 9.2 WAR | Expected AAV: $11.1M

Annual surplus value: -$12.5M

RPM isn't a huge fan of Bosh's play last season. Still, it'll be fascinating to see how his role change will affect his ranking here. The Heat are banking on the fact Bosh was marginalized somewhat in his role as a floor-spacing big man and will hope to see his value go up once he becomes a No. 1 option. Bosh has shown he can be a 24-and-10 player in the NBA, but it's uncertain whether he can anchor a top-10 defense while doing it. If he can pull it off, he'll be worth a max contract. But based on last season, he has a lot to prove as he enters his 30s.


Gordon Hayward, Utah Jazz | Age: 24

Contract: Four years, $63M | AAV: $15.8M

2013-14 value: 5.0 WAR | Expected AAV: $9.5M

Annual surplus value: -$6.3M

Behold the Salt Lake City premium. Hayward is a fine young player, but the Jazz were forced to overpay in order to keep a player of his caliber to Utah. Charlotte, another small-market squad, forced the Jazz's hand by handing him a max contract, one of the richest deals of the offseason.

We hear a lot about Hayward's membership in the exclusive 16-5-5 point-rebound-assist club. RPM's more comprehensive viewpoint isn't as bullish on his game. Hayward does have room to grow and he'll need to do so to justify the lofty price tag.


Jordan Hill, Los Angeles Lakers | Age: 26

Contract: Two years, $18M | AAV: $9M

2013-14 value: -0.9 WAR | Expected AAV: $3.4M

Annual surplus value: -$5.6M

What are the Lakers doing? Fewer contracts raised more eyebrows around the Las Vegas Summer League than this one. The Lakers continue to overvalue their own players. They seem determined to languish in mediocrity.

This is Millsap money, even though Hill's contribution pales in comparison to players of this pay grade. RPM is brutal on Hill, a guy whose sparkly box score numbers were inflated by Mike D'Antoni's system. Making matters worse, Hill's defensive contribution is next to nil. His contract figures to be salary filler before it eventually develops into a trade greaser a year from now.


Caron Butler, Detroit Pistons | Age: 34

Contract: Two years, $9 million | AAV: $4.5M

2013-14 value: -2.1 WAR | Expected AAV:-$.5M

Annual surplus value: -$5M

In his first foray into basketball ops decision-making, newly hired head coach and president Stan Van Gundy made acquiring shooting a top priority. After snagging Jodie Meeks at a lofty price of $19 million, he signed Butler to midlevel-type money. Unfortunately, RPM sees him as a washed-up 34-year-old.

Butler shot 40 percent from deep last season. But his defensive inability erased any value he might have provided as a floor-stretcher. All indications point to him as a positive influence in a young locker room. It's clear Van Gundy is taking care of one of his guys; he coached Butler in Miami a decade ago. But he's a much different player now.
 

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Lakers waived Kendall Marshall, 8.8 assists per game and 39% from 3 pt range

Worth a look for the minimum
 

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Lakers waived Kendall Marshall, 8.8 assists per game and 39% from 3 pt range

Worth a look for the minimum

He would have been a nice low risk high reward. His slash line was .396/.372/.540. Unfortunately, te Bucks claimed him.
 

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Mavs to meet with Jameer Nelson tomorrow.


Maybe they could work out a sign and trade for him while trading Felton. Then sign Mo Williams. Sounds like a plan to me.
 
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