Dak Prescott

[Manster7588]

It will be interesting to see what happens between March and July. I don't know that drafting a QB isn't a possibility the way this is going. I feel like it's still over 80% Dak is back, but I had been closer to 90% all along. If they had a top 5 pick or even moreso top 3, I would have been ok with them moving on IF there was a QB that they really loved that fell to us and then using that $40M on a couple of defensive studs. But what are the odds we will be that certain about a QB there at #10 and if we trade up it will cost us a lot (a #2, a future #1, both?) which would offset the ability to try and build a team that is strong enough in other areas to win without Dak.

I still lean towards if you don't resign or at least tag Dak you should just unload and start over and I don't think Jerry will start over which means without Dak we will be stuck in the middle - no guaranteed franchise QB, a shitty defense and some decent but few great players and no chance to win anything big. That to me is the worst case scenario and why I want them to sign Dak so much. I feel like another team has the brains to move on from Dak and come out the other side even better, but this team just doesn't have that ability. The Jones boys will cling to mediocrity before they will blow it up and build towards putting a top team on the field.

I see it the same way in the likelihood of Dak being here in 21 is dwindling.

I wonder if the might tag him and trade his rights. I don't think they'd get too much more than a 1st, unless the trade partner was able to get him under contract before the trade is done.

 

[jarntt]

I see it the same way in the likelihood of Dak being here in 21 is dwindling.

I wonder if the might tag him and trade his rights. I don't think they'd get too much more than a 1st, unless the trade partner was able to get him under contract before the trade is done.

I do still think it is by far the most likely scenario that he stays but yeah, going down

It's interesting on a trade. 6 months ago I would have said no chance you get a first round pick for a guy who is about to get $40M per year. But boy how things have changed recently. Now I think you are right, you could get a first and maybe a little something else?

 

[Manster7588]

A little social media news on Dak

On Friday, tight end Blake Jarwin posted a photo on Instagram tagging Prescott, captioned “@_4Dak , wanna run it back in a few months?” Prescott responded by sharing the photo on his story with a message, “That’s the only way I see it”.

Cowboys Prescott, Jarwin share feel-good vibes on social media

Dallas Cowboys quarterback Dak Prescott has been the center of attention and his contract discussions have been at the forefront of the conversation. With the franchise tag period starting February…

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[ArlingtonCowboys100]

I am just going to say I am not going to be happy if Dak plays on the tag in 2021. In fact it will piss me off. We dont need to go back to 5-11 seasons every year. Dak has what it takes to get this team to the Superbowl. They just need to fix the damn defense and sign Dak.

Need more money spent on defense. Bring in one really good FA defender instead of wasting cap space on several bums like this team does every off season.

 

[ArlingtonCowboys100]

A little social media news on Dak

On Friday, tight end Blake Jarwin posted a photo on Instagram tagging Prescott, captioned “@_4Dak , wanna run it back in a few months?” Prescott responded by sharing the photo on his story with a message, “That’s the only way I see it”.

Cowboys Prescott, Jarwin share feel-good vibes on social media

Dallas Cowboys quarterback Dak Prescott has been the center of attention and his contract discussions have been at the forefront of the conversation. With the franchise tag period starting February…

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I like Jarwin. Looking forward to seeing him back. I see Gallop walking after this season and Cowboys should get a nice comp pick in return. Then the Cowboys could run more two TE sets

 

[jarntt]

From JJT @DMN:
Question: When is the last time a quarterback as good as Dak Prescott has had to bicker with a franchise to get his money? Answer: Never.

In the past three years, we’ve seen franchises sign Russell Wilson, Jared Goff, Carson Wentz, Aaron Rodgers, Ryan Tannehill, Deshaun Watson and Pat Mahomes to lucrative long-term deals.

Prescott? He’s still waiting, in part, because the Cowboys haven’t come to grips with the fact that they aren’t winning this negotiation. Once Jerry and Stephen Jones embrace that, hammering out an agreement will be easier.


Everyone wants to put a spin on things and most just keep blaming one side ignoring the fact that it takes two to agree to a deal. But what really stands out to me here is the bolded. 3 of these guys are out of Dak's league and the others have all been or on the verge of being traded. Maybe there is more to this question than he was thinking...

 

[Manster7588]

I have two reasons I think Dak signs a contract this year.

1. I don't think Dallas wants to risk him looking for a 45M per next in 2020.

2. I don't think Dak wants to risk another injury possibly ending and LTD in the future.

 

[PDay8810]

Meanwhile....Dak being Dak.

Dak Prescott, the face of the Dallas Cowboys, is doing his part to assist the less fortunate during this tough stretch. Along with actor Matthew McConaughey, Prescott has provided meals for nearly 1,000 homeless people for a Dallas-based non-profit organization called OurCalling.

 

[scotsman1948]

unfortunately we are faced with a dilemma that doesn't bode well for us Cowboys fans: if we sign Prescott the we will have to virtually gut the team to be able to afford the expected contract. COVID has reduced the upward move of the salary cap so we will have to clear valuable players off the roster.

if we don't sign him then we are facing developmental years while a new QB takes over.

it is not a good time

 

[jarntt]

I have two reasons I think Dak signs a contract this year.

1. I don't think Dallas wants to risk him looking for a 45M per next in 2020.

2. I don't think Dak wants to risk another injury possibly ending and LTD in the future.

How funny if 3 years from now we are having these same discussions but with "Dak looking for $50M"!!! Seems nothing changes in Dallas but the calendar for 25 years now...

 

[PDay8810]

unfortunately we are faced with a dilemma that doesn't bode well for us Cowboys fans: if we sign Prescott the we will have to virtually gut the team to be able to afford the expected contract. COVID has reduced the upward move of the salary cap so we will have to clear valuable players off the roster.

if we don't sign him then we are facing developmental years while a new QB takes over.

it is not a good time

UNFORTUNATELY you're just posting the same doom and gloom you stated on page 5 of this thread.

"I like Dak as the Cowboys quarterback but if giving him 30M cost us Amari, Zeke and others then I say NO to him. Dak is not worth 30M AAV"

"I would offer between 20 to 24M AAV closer to the 20 than the 24"

"but Zeke being there in the backfield and the threat he presents is why Dak has done what he has done. take away zeke and put another running back and see how Dak performs"

 

[scotsman1948]

UNFORTUNATELY you're just posting the same doom and gloom you stated on page 5 of this thread.

"I like Dak as the Cowboys quarterback but if giving him 30M cost us Amari, Zeke and others then I say NO to him. Dak is not worth 30M AAV"

"I would offer between 20 to 24M AAV closer to the 20 than the 24"

"but Zeke being there in the backfield and the threat he presents is why Dak has done what he has done. take away zeke and put another running back and see how Dak performs"

So? What do you see as the 2 alternatives?

 

[Manster7588]

So? What do you see as the 2 alternatives?

At this point I prefer Dak over Zeke, and with Lamb and Gallup I'd keep Dak over him too.

 

[scotsman1948]

At this point I prefer Dak over Zeke, and with Lamb and Gallup I'd keep Dak over him too.

Well do you have a trade proposal or 2 that would get rid of Zeke? One that would still keep our running game viable and effective as Dak and Zeke do? And a triple threat at wideout is another asset

 

[PDay8810]

So? What do you see as the 2 alternatives?

You mean short of shooting Jerry & Stephen?

See.....I woulda paid Dak in the offseason after year 3 when the rate was closer to 30M per.
I also woulda been as diligent getting the franchise QB signed as they were for Elliott and DLaw signings

The Jones boys are to blame more than the QB wanting the going rate based on his performance. Ownership had their window when Dak was out performing his contract and making peanuts. They blew it and it's compounded when you consider what they did for the RB (the player YOU THINK makes the QB) and the DE who said he'd forgo offseason surgery without a big deal. It flat out amazes me fans like you are fine with how DLaw & Elliot held this team hostage but not the QB. You seem to be a Dak hater more than a cowboy fan.

Cowboy beat writer, Todd Archer suggested a 6 year deal at an average of about 42M per. He explained how this could be structured with a large signing bonus over 6 years with lower yearly salaries in the first 2 to 3 seasons and higher salaries in the last years of the term when the cap is much larger due to a new TV deal about double what the current TV deal is and with assumed gambling revenue.

Bottom line...Jerry screwed this up and he has even said Dak has all the leverage, so he needs to get off his ass and get this deal done. The worst situation will be Jerry allowing Dak to play on the tag, that will most certainly require players to be cut more than getting his number down in the first couple of years with a new long term contract.

I can assure you one thing, this team is watching and you can bet your ass they want their leader signed and happy. Jerry will be the reason this team fails (like they have for 25 years) much more so than giving in and paying Prescott the going QB rate based on his past performances

 

[Manster7588]

Well do you have a trade proposal or 2 that would get rid of Zeke? One that would still keep our running game viable and effective as Dak and Zeke do? And a triple threat at wideout is another asset

With out Zeke I'd draft a RB and go with Pollard. As for a trade proposal you need to find a buyer for his over paid contract. Before they signed Zeke I said they shouldn't, but now it's what it is
I also agree a tripple threat at reciever is very effective, but so is a double threat recievers with a top QB.

I'm not one to worry about who the QB is until you have pieces in place to make his job easy. Dallas has those pieces, so I want a very good QB and not grab from the scrap heap, or roll the dice on a draft pick

 

[Schmoopy1000]

From JJT @DMN:
Question: When is the last time a quarterback as good as Dak Prescott has had to bicker with a franchise to get his money? Answer: Never.

In the past three years, we’ve seen franchises sign Russell Wilson, Jared Goff, Carson Wentz, Aaron Rodgers, Ryan Tannehill, Deshaun Watson and Pat Mahomes to lucrative long-term deals.

Prescott? He’s still waiting, in part, because the Cowboys haven’t come to grips with the fact that they aren’t winning this negotiation. Once Jerry and Stephen Jones embrace that, hammering out an agreement will be easier.


Everyone wants to put a spin on things and most just keep blaming one side ignoring the fact that it takes two to agree to a deal. But what really stands out to me here is the bolded. 3 of these guys are out of Dak's league and the others have all been or on the verge of being traded. Maybe there is more to this question than he was thinking...

I agree with your bolded. (rest is towards your quote not you jarntt)

I really dont blame one side. Dak could have gotten his money. his unwillingness to negotiate on the years costs both.
Dallas not sure but could have sweetened a deal to get to 5 years (dunno)
Goff, Wentz & Watson have signed 4 year deals. Damaging the teams they are/were on right now. Although Watson is a completely different scenario.

People worry about the cap, signing Dak, but want to be on his side over 4 or 5 years. That hurts the cap. There is more than just sign him. It has to work for both sides so we dont gut the team to retain him. To me putting it simply for both sides. More years more money. Less years less money. Not less years more money.
People that bring up Tannehill. Please. We would sign that deal all day every day for Dak LOL Why would clickbait people even include him.
Aaron Rodgers is Aaron Rodgers! Who BTW is is in a team friendly contract for a top QB in the NFL.
Mahomes. He cant fit into any scenario right now because a contract of his style has never been done. We wont know until years & years from now if this was a good deal or not.

If I am gonna blame anyone I am gonna blame the agent (out of convenience) but what I would like to see is Dak get signed long term before July 15th or whatever the date is. I fully expect him to get fran tagged again so they have more time to iron out the new deal. Which will send all the clickbait fuckers into a feeding frenzy whether for or against Dak. if we dont have a new deal by then. I dont expect Dak to be playing for us in 2022. I for one fully expect him to be playing for us in 2022. he is the leader of this team. He wont be walking away. I dont see him trying to pull a Watson. he wants to stay. I dont have the answer to what it will take, but I feel they will get there.
For everyone blaming the team. You cant just fall on your back with your legs in the air in negotiations. I understand it. They both held their ground the last time. Didnt get anyone anywhere. They will find a solution this year. (I hope)

 

[Manster7588]

Just a thought. Maybe Dallas can offer Dak 2 years at 70M.
That basically is what Dak was looking for pre injury and lets him hit FA early after the new TV comtract is done, plus it manages next seasons franchise tag money.

 

[jarntt]

Just a thought. Maybe Dallas can offer Dak 2 years at 70M.
That basically is what Dak was looking for pre injury and lets him hit FA early after the new TV comtract is done, plus it manages next seasons franchise tag money.

Well if tagged he gets one for $38ish right? So that would mean he accepts the 2nd year at only $32M. Maybe if 100% guaranteed he would take it but probably still not.

 

[Manster7588]

Well if tagged he gets one for $38ish right? So that would mean he accepts the 2nd year at only $32M. Maybe if 100% guaranteed he would take it but probably still not.

I know, but I also know he wanted a 3 year deal so he can re negotiate after the new tv deal is complete, and with the injury he might be less willing to bet on himself.