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Cowherd: just admit you're critical of Lebron because you're worried he's better than Jordan

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unless their situations were 100% identical, which they were not, there is no way anybody can know that for sure.

The Spurs and Warriors are far superior to any team Jordan faced in the Finals. I agree Gary Payton would be a difficult matchup for Curry, but LOL if you think the Sonics were the better team. Andre Iguodala would have been their 3rd best player.

And no, Payton was not better than Curry. They would have canceled out at best.


Spurs and Warriors are far superior to any team Jordan faced in the finals?

Maaaan the short bus is bringing in ALL the helmet special bball wannabe coaches.


I love the twisting and turning of this discussion. Lebron's losses. Lebrons team. Poor guy has had it so bad.


3-4 in the finals in a watered down league. GOAT
 

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Spurs and Warriors are far superior to any team Jordan faced in the finals?

Maaaan the short bus is bringing in ALL the helmet special bball wannabe coaches.


I love the twisting and turning of this discussion. Lebron's losses. Lebrons team. Poor guy has had it so bad.


3-4 in the finals in a watered down league. GOAT

Sorry, how is the league watered down? On average the top players are significantly more talented now. At the very least they are as good. Everyone has 'back in my day' bias, but LeBron and KD and Westbrook and the rest would all be superstars in the 90s too.
 

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Sorry, how is the league watered down? On average the top players are significantly more talented now. At the very least they are as good. Everyone has 'back in my day' bias, but LeBron and KD and Westbrook and the rest would all be superstars in the 90s too.

In the 80's-90's players still smoked, go watch a game...they were soo slow, the athletes now a days would dominate any of the players from that era
 

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Sorry, how is the league watered down? On average the top players are significantly more talented now. At the very least they are as good. Everyone has 'back in my day' bias, but LeBron and KD and Westbrook and the rest would all be superstars in the 90s too.


Yes tremendous athletes playing no defense until April and playing against no defense until it counts.

Most games I watch are like watching the all star game.
 

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KD in the 90s :lol:


yeah I can see him going to the rim hard and Anthony Mason or Rodman putting him in the ground




Milenials
 

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Unless Lebron can go back in time and un-lose finals, he can't touch MJ.
 

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Unless Lebron can go back in time and un-lose finals, he can't touch MJ.


Sorry but Weve broken this down and come full circle here.

Lebron is the GOAT cuz Cownerd and the Lebron dick riders are in love.

The teams MJ faced are not Nearly as Good as the teams Lebron has faced in the finals.

Lebron had not as good players around him as MJ did.

Lebrons coaches were not that good.

And my favorite... Lebron's losses are better than MJs.


Any other excuses I'm leaving out?
 

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Yes tremendous athletes playing no defense until April and playing against no defense until it counts.

Most games I watch are like watching the all star game.

Maybe time to follow a team that plays defense like the Warriors or Spurs or Grizzlies then
 

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KD in the 90s :lol:


yeah I can see him going to the rim hard and Anthony Mason or Rodman putting him in the ground




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KD is a taller, better shooting Pippen. If he could play in the 90s Durant would be fine. And so would any other star today, as they were less athletic back then. Larry Bird would be maybe a better passing Kyle Korver today
 

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Maybe time to follow a team that plays defense like the Warriors or Spurs or Grizzlies then


For 4 quarters? November thru June? :pound:

Players resting... :L And the super teams?



What a bunch of beasts
 

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KD is a taller, better shooting Pippen. If he could play in the 90s Durant would be fine. And so would any other star today, as they were less athletic back then. Larry Bird would be maybe a better passing Kyle Korver today



Somebody has to save this quote. It's a dandy.


Bird = Kyle Korver



The bball IQ of Bird is higher than most entire starting 5s today.





Milenials :idea: it's shame how ignorant some of these people are
 

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For 4 quarters? November thru June? :pound:

Players resting... :L And the super teams?



What a bunch of beasts

Don't be mad your team sucks. Yes there are good defensive teams today. And your memory is typical, "back in my day they were giants!". Guess what, in the 90s and especially the 80s there were tons of teams that didn't play defense. The average score in the 80s was significantly higher than today, although with the rise of the 3 point spread offense scores are rising again.
 

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Somebody has to save this quote. It's a dandy.


Bird = Kyle Korver



The bball IQ of Bird is higher than most entire starting 5s today.





Milenials :idea: it's shame how ignorant some of these people are

I guarantee I'm older than you.

But yeah I was trolling a bit with the Bird comment. Point being he would not be an MVP type player today, he was simply not athletic enough.
 

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KD is a better shooter than Pippen. But not defender. Not even close

Pippen was an all around beast.


Game 5 1991 finals. go look it up


KD :lol:
 

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I guarantee I'm older than you.

But yeah I was trolling a bit with the Bird comment. Point being he would not be an MVP type player today, he was simply not athletic enough.

I'll take a high bball IQ and knowing how to put the ball in the hole + effort over a lazy great athlete anyday.


You blew your whad on the Korver = Bird comment.


That shows what u know about bball
 

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Don't be mad your team sucks. Yes there are good defensive teams today. And your memory is typical, "back in my day they were giants!". Guess what, in the 90s and especially the 80s there were tons of teams that didn't play defense. The average score in the 80s was significantly higher than today, although with the rise of the 3 point spread offense scores are rising again.


Bulls can suck all they want and they're still the best of all time and MJ is the GOAT


6 rings bud. Call me when you get 2
 

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Awwww here comes the butthurt rainbows from the Bay Area
 

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And ftr, I fucking hate MJ as GOAT. Argued against it for years. But I could never get past the fact that he's unbeaten on the leagues biggest stage.
 

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Let's be honest here if it's possible.


Better athletes today no doubt and a much lower bball IQ. Much less effort on defense. Much less physical defense. There's more kids coming in this league every year due to the one and done -- see bball IQ comment.
 
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