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"We" don't do anything in the choosing process.
Asked and answered- we're on a message board and we're discussing potential COY's. Nothing is stopping a poster from creating their own criteria no matter how stupid, or well thought out, or nuanced.
 

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In order

Caldwell
Garrett
Koetter
Belichick
Del Rio
 

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I'm sorry that 2 paragraphs is a lot to read? Or that I get a bit wordy when I write? My editor tells me every now and then to calm down on how much I write but that is just me. This is again why I said at this point what is the point in continuing the conversation? You have made up your mind and refuse to hear anything anybody else has to say. Even when people compliment the player or coach or team you are speaking about you still take it as an insult.


Spacing.
 

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Back on topic though, I really have liked the development of the Dolphins under Gase. Still think the GM is bad but they may have a keeper in Miami at HC for the first time in forever. Going to take a couple years to get a real look at how good (or bad) Gase is but the initial results on offense are promising. In-season turn around also catches my eye a bit- a playoff bid would make me think he ought to win the award based on precedent.
 

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I think it's Garrett and it's not really close.
consider the culture in Dallas, 4-12 team, loses his QB in the preseason. Add his vision, push for the linemen in previous years and Elliott this past draft. He's the man behind the curtain. Actually, a better head coach than coordinator.
 

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The take away from this thread is we ALL choose BB or Pats fans will have a hissy fit
 

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1. Belichick
2. Reid
3. Garrett

I've already given my 'Cowboys have good everywhere' speech elsewhere and that applies here, too.
 

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NFL Coach of the Year rankings: Cowboys' Garrett, Patriots' Belichick nearly even
A look at where all 32 coaches stack up in the annual Coach of the Year award



Asking yourself if Jason Garrett is a better coach than Bill Belichick feels silly -- because there isn't an informed person on this planet who would actually argue that -- but it's entirely necessary at this point in the NFL season. It's mid-December and teams are beginning to lock up playoff spots, which means it's time to figure out which coach has done the best job this season.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/standings/playoffrace
In other words, who deserves to win Coach of the Year?

Atop the list are Garrett, who has guided the Cowboys to an 11-2 record without Tony Romo, and Belichick, who has guided the Patriots to an 11-2 record despite Tom Brady's four-game absence, trading away Jamie Collins, and losing Rob Gronkowski for the year. And so, this is where the conversation gets silly: How the hell are we supposed to give the award to a coach other than Belichick when Belichick's team is tied for the NFL's best record?

That question will hopefully be answered in this article, which will attempt to figure out which coach is the most deserving through 14 weeks of the season. First, for full disclosure, here's how the NFL staff at CBS Sports voted before the season:

Pete Prisco: Mike Zimmer. He will get the Vikings to the playoffs without his starting quarterback. That's good enough for me.

Jason La Canfora: Bill Belichick. No one bounces back from a scandal like The Hoodie (and, well, no one arguably has had more scandals).

Will Brinson: Dirk Koetter. A pretty good option for a first-year coach who could take his team to the playoffs, Koetter will give the Bucs consistency, help them to 9 or 10 wins, orchestrate a breakout year from Jameis Winston and net the honors in his first year in Tampa.

Ryan Wilson: Bruce Arians. The Steelers forced Arians into retirement after the 2011 season. Instead of spending his days fishing, he served as Andrew Luck's offensive coordinator, and parlayed that success into turning around the Cardinals.

John Breech: Andy Reid. Reid takes home this award after leading the Chiefs to their first division title since 2010.

Jared Dubin: Bill Belichick. When the Patriots go 12-4 despite not having Tom Brady for four games, voters will reward the man in the hoodie.

Sean Wagner-McGough: Bill Belichick. The Hoodie overcomes Tom Brady's suspension to lead the Patriots to another AFC East title. Choosing anyone other than Belichick isn't smart. There's a reason why the Patriots are always contenders.

So, Garrett was definitely not a favorite to land the award. And that works in his favor.

Tier 5: Jeff Fisher
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Jeff Fisher is definitely not in the running for Coach of the Year. USATSI
32. Jeff Fisher -- Rams (4-9)

Jeff Fisher tried to not get fired, but he got canned Monday -- a day after the Rams gave up 42 points at home against the Julio Jones-less Falcons and lost by 28 even after two garbage time touchdowns. So, now that Fisher era is over, let's take a look at what he accomplished in the months he was allowed to walk the sidelines in Los Angeles:

And that's a wrap.
Tier 4: Trying not to get fired
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Hue Jackson hasn't won a game. USATSI
31. Hue Jackson -- Browns (0-13)

Due to Fisher's incompetence, Hue Jackson is spared the last spot, which is pretty remarkable considering Jackson has yet to win a game. The Browns are 0-13 and Jackson isn't ranked last. Here's why: I'm not sure any coach would win with the Browns roster, who are actually doing the smart thing by completely rebuilding.

30. Gus Bradley -- Jaguars (2-11)

The Jaguars entered the season with playoff aspirations. They thought they had their quarterback, a top receiving crew, and a growing, young defense. Blake Bortles has thrown 15 picks, the Jaguars' top-three receivers lead the league in drops, and the defense isn't anything special -- even though Bradley once coordinated the vaunted Seahawks defense.

Oh, and they are not going to the playoffs.

29. Chip Kelly -- 49ers (1-12)

Chip Kelly's in the same situation as Jackson. His roster is devoid of talent, which isn't his fault. That's why he gets a pass.

28. Marvin Lewis -- Bengals (5-7-1)

When I picked the Bengals to represent the AFC in the Super Bowl, it felt like an OK pick considering the Bengals had journeyed to the postseason in each of the past five seasons. Instead, the Bengals have gone 5-7-1. Lewis' team isn't as bad as the other teams in this category, but he gets downgraded because his team was supposed to be playoff bound, and they're not.

27. Todd Bowles -- Jets (4-9)

The biggest mistake Todd Bowles made was sticking with Ryan Fitzpatrick -- not just once, but multiple times. He signed Fitzpatrick during training camp and then refused to bench him as FitzTragic wrecked the Jets' season. Still, I'm not certain Bowles had any shot at winning this year. Even if he benched Fitzpatrick, he would've been playing either Geno Smith, Bryce Petty, or Christian Hackenberg. Bowles wasn't going to win any games with those three quarterbacks. Bowles isn't the Jets' biggest issue.

26. John Fox -- Bears (3-10)

John Fox got dealt a bad hand. Jay Cutler was hurt all year and Brian Hoyeralso ended up on injured reserve. Alshon Jeffery was suspended for a quarter of the year and Kevin White pretty much missed the entire season. Still, give Fox credit for the Bears' effort level. Despite a clear lack of talent at certain positions, the Bears play hard every week.

25. Mike McCoy -- Chargers (5-8)

I'm not sure if Mike McCoy's team is bad (they're certainly entertaining!) but he deserves some blame for all of those early season games his team choked away.

24. Chuck Pagano -- Colts (6-7)

The Colts should be winning the mediocre AFC South. Instead, they can't find a way to help Andrew Luck. That's on the front office and the coaching staff.
 

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Tier 2: You can make a case
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Gruden has worked well with Cousins, again. USATSI
17. Bill O'Brien -- Texans (7-6)

Bill O'Brien is a candidate if the Texans win the AFC South because he will have done so with arguably the worst starting quarterback in the NFL (Brock Osweiler). That takes luck and it also requires good coaching. Give him credit, even if he's an offensive coach with a horrible offense.

16. Jay Gruden -- Redskins (7-5-1)

Jay Gruden deserves credit for continuing to develop Kirk Cousins, who has turned into a pretty good quarterback. Also credit Gruden for getting the Redskins in the hunt for a playoff spot.

15. John Harbaugh -- Ravens (7-6)

Harbaugh has gotten the Ravens to 7-6 despite having a horrible offense. He's often overlooked as a quality coach, but he deserves praise for keeping the Ravens afloat with a top defense. If they win their final three games, they'll win the AFC North.

14. Gary Kubiak -- Broncos (8-5)

It's not Kubiak's fault that all of his quarterbacks stink. It's also not his fault the team got gutted in free agency. Yet the Broncos are still 8-5. That's got to count for something.

13. Mike Tomlin -- Steelers (8-5)

As consistent as always, Tomlin's team sits atop the AFC North despite Le'Veon Bell's suspension and Ben Roethlisberger's injuries. I admire Tomlin's willingness to go for two after touchdowns and think more coaches should embrace that line of thinking. Tomlin also has that defense playing better than most expected.

12. Pete Carroll -- Seahawks (8-4-1)

Carroll is one of the league's best coaches, but he takes a hit in the rankings because the Seahawks were expected to be great and they have been a bit inconsistent. He also lost to Jeff Fisher.
 

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Tier 1: The actual candidates
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Jason Garrett is the leading contender for Coach of the Year. USATSI
11. Mike Zimmer -- Vikings (7-6)

The Vikings weren't supposed to compete when Teddy Bridgewater lost his season, yet Zimmer found a way to hold the team together. He's repeatedly dealt with injuries (including to himself), but the Vikings are still a team nobody wants to face because of his defense. I don't think they'd even be a .500 team without Zimmer. A team with a worse coach would've cracked by now, but the Vikings didn't.

10. Mike Mularkey -- Titans (7-6)

We all made fun of Mike Mularkey for his exotic smashmouth and feared that he'd ruin Marcus Mariota's development. Instead, Mularkey has a chance to get the Titans into the postseason because he's turned Mariota into a legit NFL quarterback. His running game also works: The Titans are third in the NFL in yards per carry (4.7) and he revived DeMarco Murray's career. The Titans weren't viewed as a contender to win the AFC South before the season, but they're my favorite to win it. The Titans won five total games in 2014 and 2015. So, give him credit for winning seven already this year.

9. Adam Gase -- Dolphins (8-5)

The Dolphins are 8-5! They're actually on the cusp of playoff success! That feat is impressive considering the Dolphins went 6-10 a year ago and haven't won more than eight games since 2008. It's also impressive given how Gase's tenure started: One win (in overtime against the Browns) in five games. But since starting 1-4, the Dolphins have only lost once. To do that, Gase turned Ryan Tannehill into a pretty dang good quarterback, as he posted career-highs in completion percentage, yards per attempt, and passer rating. With Tannehill possible done for the season due to a sprained ACL and MCL, the Dolphins' season will likely end short of the postseason, which will also end Gase's case for Coach of the Year. But if Gase gets Matt Mooreto quarterback the team into the playoffs, he deserves serious consideration.

8. Dirk Koetter -- Buccaneers (8-5)

So, the decision to fire Lovie Smith might've been a good call. In Koetter's first year as the head coach, he's reached eight wins after 13 games. The Buccaneers haven't experienced an eight-plus win season since 2010. Furthermore, they're in line to earn a playoff spot. They're currently tied with the Falcons for the lead in the NFC South.

7. Dan Quinn -- Falcons (8-5)

Dan Quinn was known for his defense in Seattle, but it's his offense that has the Falcons on top of the NFC South (they hold a tiebreaker over the Buccaneers). A year after the Falcons collapsed down the stretch, they're maintaining their level of play. Matt Ryan has been the league's best quarterback in the NFL, Vic Beasley is emerging as a superstar (13.5 sacks), and the Falcons just ended Fisher's job by putting up 42 points in three quarters without Julio Jones.

6. Ben McAdoo -- Giants (9-4)

Firing Tom Coughlin after a dozen years and two Super Bowls was always going to be risky. It ended up being a pretty decent move. The Giants kind of have that Super Bowl feel again, because they're peaking at the right time. Their defense just limited the Cowboys to seven points. They've beaten the Cowboys twice. The Giants haven't finished above .500 since 2012. McAdoo already has them at nine wins and he should snap the team's postseason drought.

5. Jack Del Rio -- Raiders (10-3)

This one's simple: The Raiders are finally good after more than a decade of incompetence. A lot of the credit should be directed toward the front office for landing top talents in Derek Carr, Amari Cooper, Khalil Mack, etc. But give credit to Jack Del Rio for his ballsy decision making that has almost always worked in favor of his team.

4. Jim Caldwell -- Lions (9-4)

The Lions lost Calvin Johnson and managed to get better. Barring a collapse, they're going to win the NFC North and maybe even snag a first-round bye. Truth be told, I wish the award could go to Jim Bob Cooter (not just because of his name), but coordinators are not up for consideration. So, give Caldwell some love for the Lions' stunningly successful season.

3. Andy Reid -- Chiefs (10-3)

The weird part about judging coaches is that the only real time we can evaluate them is on Sundays. We don't really get to see the behind-the-scenes work that coaches put in from Sunday night until Saturday night. And so, we're left to judge them off play calling, clock management, and wins. Perhaps that's why Andy Reid is often overlooked as one of the league's best coaches. His complete inability to manage time during games is such a liability that it overshadows his work as a play caller and a, well, winner. He must be doing something right all season long to get the Chiefs to 10 wins so quickly, especially with Alex Smith as his quarterback. We might not be able to see what he does before and after games like we can see him mismanage time, but he's definitely one of the best coaches in the NFL and his team is definitely among the best.

2. Bill Belichick -- Patriots (11-2)

The Patriots are 11-2 despite being without Tom Brady for four games, losing Gronk for the season, and trading away Jamie Collins. They're the best team in the AFC and maybe the NFL. Bill Belichick is the greatest coach in the history of the NFL. This isn't rocket science. He is worthy of winning.

1. Jason Garrett -- Cowboys (11-2)

OK, so here's why Jason Garrett is the Coach of the Year. He isn't necessarily a better coach than Belichick -- he definitely isn't -- but he fits the criteria for the award perfectly. If the award was given to the best coach period, Belichick would win every year. But it's not.

It's given for reasons like these:

  • See substantial improvement after a down year? Check. The Cowboys are 11-2 after going 4-12 a year ago.
  • Overcome a bad situation? Check. The Cowboys are 11-2 despite losing Tony Romo to an injury and dealing with multiple suspensions on defense.
  • Have a good record? Check. They're tied for the best record in the NFL.
That's why Garrett has been the Coach of the Year -- to this point. Belichick can still steal away the award if the Cowboys drop a few games down the stretch and the Patriots wind up with the league's best record by more than a game.
 

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Del Rio and Reid deserve the award this year. Garrett is a good 3rd. Belichick is just doing what he usually does. Last year was not his best year but this is more typical.
 

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Tier 1: The actual candidates
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Jason Garrett is the leading contender for Coach of the Year. USATSI
11. Mike Zimmer -- Vikings (7-6)

The Vikings weren't supposed to compete when Teddy Bridgewater lost his season, yet Zimmer found a way to hold the team together. He's repeatedly dealt with injuries (including to himself), but the Vikings are still a team nobody wants to face because of his defense. I don't think they'd even be a .500 team without Zimmer. A team with a worse coach would've cracked by now, but the Vikings didn't.

10. Mike Mularkey -- Titans (7-6)

We all made fun of Mike Mularkey for his exotic smashmouth and feared that he'd ruin Marcus Mariota's development. Instead, Mularkey has a chance to get the Titans into the postseason because he's turned Mariota into a legit NFL quarterback. His running game also works: The Titans are third in the NFL in yards per carry (4.7) and he revived DeMarco Murray's career. The Titans weren't viewed as a contender to win the AFC South before the season, but they're my favorite to win it. The Titans won five total games in 2014 and 2015. So, give him credit for winning seven already this year.

9. Adam Gase -- Dolphins (8-5)

The Dolphins are 8-5! They're actually on the cusp of playoff success! That feat is impressive considering the Dolphins went 6-10 a year ago and haven't won more than eight games since 2008. It's also impressive given how Gase's tenure started: One win (in overtime against the Browns) in five games. But since starting 1-4, the Dolphins have only lost once. To do that, Gase turned Ryan Tannehill into a pretty dang good quarterback, as he posted career-highs in completion percentage, yards per attempt, and passer rating. With Tannehill possible done for the season due to a sprained ACL and MCL, the Dolphins' season will likely end short of the postseason, which will also end Gase's case for Coach of the Year. But if Gase gets Matt Mooreto quarterback the team into the playoffs, he deserves serious consideration.

8. Dirk Koetter -- Buccaneers (8-5)

So, the decision to fire Lovie Smith might've been a good call. In Koetter's first year as the head coach, he's reached eight wins after 13 games. The Buccaneers haven't experienced an eight-plus win season since 2010. Furthermore, they're in line to earn a playoff spot. They're currently tied with the Falcons for the lead in the NFC South.

7. Dan Quinn -- Falcons (8-5)

Dan Quinn was known for his defense in Seattle, but it's his offense that has the Falcons on top of the NFC South (they hold a tiebreaker over the Buccaneers). A year after the Falcons collapsed down the stretch, they're maintaining their level of play. Matt Ryan has been the league's best quarterback in the NFL, Vic Beasley is emerging as a superstar (13.5 sacks), and the Falcons just ended Fisher's job by putting up 42 points in three quarters without Julio Jones.

6. Ben McAdoo -- Giants (9-4)

Firing Tom Coughlin after a dozen years and two Super Bowls was always going to be risky. It ended up being a pretty decent move. The Giants kind of have that Super Bowl feel again, because they're peaking at the right time. Their defense just limited the Cowboys to seven points. They've beaten the Cowboys twice. The Giants haven't finished above .500 since 2012. McAdoo already has them at nine wins and he should snap the team's postseason drought.

5. Jack Del Rio -- Raiders (10-3)

This one's simple: The Raiders are finally good after more than a decade of incompetence. A lot of the credit should be directed toward the front office for landing top talents in Derek Carr, Amari Cooper, Khalil Mack, etc. But give credit to Jack Del Rio for his ballsy decision making that has almost always worked in favor of his team.

4. Jim Caldwell -- Lions (9-4)

The Lions lost Calvin Johnson and managed to get better. Barring a collapse, they're going to win the NFC North and maybe even snag a first-round bye. Truth be told, I wish the award could go to Jim Bob Cooter (not just because of his name), but coordinators are not up for consideration. So, give Caldwell some love for the Lions' stunningly successful season.

3. Andy Reid -- Chiefs (10-3)

The weird part about judging coaches is that the only real time we can evaluate them is on Sundays. We don't really get to see the behind-the-scenes work that coaches put in from Sunday night until Saturday night. And so, we're left to judge them off play calling, clock management, and wins. Perhaps that's why Andy Reid is often overlooked as one of the league's best coaches. His complete inability to manage time during games is such a liability that it overshadows his work as a play caller and a, well, winner. He must be doing something right all season long to get the Chiefs to 10 wins so quickly, especially with Alex Smith as his quarterback. We might not be able to see what he does before and after games like we can see him mismanage time, but he's definitely one of the best coaches in the NFL and his team is definitely among the best.

2. Bill Belichick -- Patriots (11-2)

The Patriots are 11-2 despite being without Tom Brady for four games, losing Gronk for the season, and trading away Jamie Collins. They're the best team in the AFC and maybe the NFL. Bill Belichick is the greatest coach in the history of the NFL. This isn't rocket science. He is worthy of winning.

1. Jason Garrett -- Cowboys (11-2)

OK, so here's why Jason Garrett is the Coach of the Year. He isn't necessarily a better coach than Belichick -- he definitely isn't -- but he fits the criteria for the award perfectly. If the award was given to the best coach period, Belichick would win every year. But it's not.

It's given for reasons like these:

  • See substantial improvement after a down year? Check. The Cowboys are 11-2 after going 4-12 a year ago.
  • Overcome a bad situation? Check. The Cowboys are 11-2 despite losing Tony Romo to an injury and dealing with multiple suspensions on defense.
  • Have a good record? Check. They're tied for the best record in the NFL.
That's why Garrett has been the Coach of the Year -- to this point. Belichick can still steal away the award if the Cowboys drop a few games down the stretch and the Patriots wind up with the league's best record by more than a game.
This is a good list but I'd still have the top 3 in a different order. I'd rather have Dak than Alex Smith, for starters. Its actually amazing the Chiefs are above .500 with Houston and Maclin missing most of the season.

Caldwell at 4 sounds right which is incredible considering his track record.
 

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Jim Caldwell (Detroit) and Jason Garrett have to be in the conversation.

DAL imo has plenty of talent, I had them winning the east pre-Romo, but nobody could expect a potential 1 seed with a rookie running the show, and DET was not even on my radar as a DIV champions.

Two more names that are not as good but deserve mentioning...Dirk Koetter in Tampa, and Mike Mularkey in TN...of course TN had nowhere to go but up from last season, and they may stall out at 8-8, but they have beaten some pretty good teams, DET, MIA, GB, DEN.

Tampa is coming on...and the build quality down there is solid imo...sustainable. They need to beef up the OL, and add another piece or two on OFC and they cold change from playoff contender to SB challenger.
 

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Del Rio and Reid deserve the award this year. Garrett is a good 3rd. Belichick is just doing what he usually does. Last year was not his best year but this is more typical.

Both should be in the running for certain, but I think we need to see this finish out before I say they deserve it...if KC locks up the 1 or 2 seed I would give it to Reid. Something tells me OAK might leak some oil coming in.
 

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