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Celtics '21'22 - The Jay's Team

Gman

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Injuries and CV19 conspired to torpedo Boston last season. The Celtics finished a lackluster 36-36 and were quickly drummed out of the playoffs in the 1st round.

Change in the leadership structure soon followed: GM Danny Ainge retired, HC Brad Stevens ascended to GM to replace Ainge, and first time HC Ime Udoka replaces Stevens.

Change too on the court, as (most notably) the Celtics had to forfeit resources to jettison the pricey and declining Kemba Walker. Unfortunately, Kemba's time here in Boston was marred by injury... and the C's decided to cut bait now rather than later.

But with all of this change, perhaps the most important is that Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum have finally ascended to become the clear-cut best players on the team. No more wondering if Kyrie Irving is in charge, or Kemba Walker... it's the Jay's turn.

I think it's important to note how relatively young both Brown and Tatum are. Jaylen will turn 25 shortly, and Jayson is only 23. They are both entering that delicious young prime phase of their careers... they always had talent, but now they have great experience and their bodies have developed to better compete in a man's league.

Just on those two alone... we still have something good cooking here in Boston. And beyond them, the C's have done a lot to fix their main issue (other than injuries/CV19) from last year: weak depth. As many guys missed time last season, the C's lack of bench offense was really exposed... and the results speak for themselves. But looking down the roster this season, the team has made strides to get more seasoned and quality depth... I firmly believe this overall team is significantly improved from last season.

So what's the real potential here for '21'22? The Celtics (yet again) appear to be sitting in that 2nd tier just beneath true title contention. We're good, perhaps very good... but not "in the mix". Many see this as a 'holding pattern' year and look ahead to Boston being a player to add a 3rd star (Beal?) in '22'23...

... but we've seen the past few season that with a break or two, a "2nd tier" team can ascend and shake up the NBA... (Miami, Milwaukee, Atlanta). It seems like we're due to get lucky after the series of bad breaks we've had recently... but who knows? And let's not forget that "Bartering Brad" has multiple trade exceptions and that a hunt for a 3rd star could possibly be accomplished this season. Stay tuned.

Here are my annual strengths and weaknesses for the Boston Celtics:

Strengths
  • Versatile, Tough Defense - We should have a top 5 defense, period... especially after trading out Kemba and Fournier for Richardson and Hoford
  • Two Allstar Wings - The all-around strength of Brown and Tatum is the backbone of this team
  • Improved Depth - I like the platoon we have at PG (Smart, Schroeder, Pritchard)... combined with competent veterans like Richardson, Horford and Kanter we should have some team offense even when Brown or Tatum or both aren't on the floor
Weaknesses
  • Outside Shooting - Too many sporatic shooters on the depth chart (Smart, Richardson, Horford, Schroeder, Nesmith, Langford) not to call this an area of concern
  • Playmaking - In terms of creating offense for others. Brown and Tatum have showed improvement every year they've been in the league, but the last big hurdle they need to clear is demonstrating a consistent ability to get their teammates involved
  • Player Development - Even without a 1st round pick last draft, the C's still have a number of young players that need to show improvement... (Grant Williams, Romeo Langford, Aaron Nesmith)... too many mixed-to-poor results in this category in recent years. A big wildcard this season is whether or not Pritchard, RWIII and the rest already mentioned can make strides or not
First preseason game is tomorrow night. Here's to a great season, y'all. :suds:
 

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Unofficial Depth Chart:

PG (1) - Marcus Smart, Dennis Schroder, Payton Pritchard

SG (2) - Josh Richardson, Jaylen Brown, Marcus Smart, Aaron Nesmith, Romeo Langford

SF (3) - Jaylen Brown, Jayson Tatum, Aaron Nesmith, Romeo Langford, Grant Williams, Sam Hauser

PF (4) - Jayson Tatum, Al Horford, Juancho Hernangomez, Grant Williams

C (5) - Robert Williams III, Al Horford, Enes Kanter, Grant Williams, Bruno Fernando

Guys fighting for a spot on the roster:
  • Jabari Parker (PF)
  • Ryan Arcidiacono (PG)
  • Theo Pinson (SG)
  • Garrison Mathews (SG)
  • Juwan Morgan (PF)
  • Luke Kornet (C)
 

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Hopefully the Celtics have a better season than last year. And I won't be missing Kemba.
 

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Hopefully the Celtics have a better season than last year. And I won't be missing Kemba.
Kemba became a high-mileage, used car the day after he signed in Boston.

It is what it is... and I'm glad the C's decided to move on rather than kick that can down the road.
 

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Kemba became a high-mileage, used car the day after he signed in Boston.

It is what it is... and I'm glad the C's decided to move on rather than kick that can down the road.

Looking back at it he just wasn't a good fit for Boston.
 

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Horford is the veteran that they needed but he's not a leader. Brad is still looking for a true veteran PG who can shoot if pushed, but more of a set up and assist guy who can control the offense.

My gut is telling me that Romeo and Williams are the perfect pair for a team that needs an infusion of youth and has vet PG that they're willing to move.

The other guy that I think Brad will move is Marcus Smart. He wants to be the team leader but he just doesn't have the talent or the smarts that will create leadership and he's prone to making bad choices at the worst possible times.

As much as has been written about Beal joining the C's, the Wizards would move him away from their conference rather than trade him to the C's unless they could get Brown, Williams, Langford and the c's '22 first round pick. That kind of deal wouldn't move the barometer for the C's one degree.

Patience will be a virtue. Brad has done okay for the first few months of his tenure and if he doesn't panic, the C's will be a much better team this year.

What also remains to be seen is how well Udoka handles his new job. Players seem to like and respect him. Can he be a disciplinarian without creating a sect of player enemies?
 

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Are you aware that the Celtics signed veteran PG Dennis Schroeder, @BigKen?

Given that fact, I don't see the urgency for the type of trade you're lobbying for.
 

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They have the middle tier salaries and draft picks to make a big deal if needed.

Not sure who though
 

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I actually like smart at the point.

It should limit the amount of dumb shots he takes as his job is to be more of a creator/facilitator
 

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They have the middle tier salaries and draft picks to make a big deal if needed.

Not sure who though
And a big trade exception, too.

What would be really nice is if a Romeo Langford or Aaron Nesmith (or both) flashes potential... always good to have a "promising" player to throw in a trade, if needed.
 

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And a big trade exception, too.

What would be really nice is if a Romeo Langford or Aaron Nesmith (or both) flashes potential... always good to have a "promising" player to throw in a trade, if needed.

I think they use that next summer

If things don’t go right they should be cutting salary to get under the tax like

I hope they keep Morgan and Matthew’s on 2 way deals
 

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And a big trade exception, too.

What would be really nice is if a Romeo Langford or Aaron Nesmith (or both) flashes potential... always good to have a "promising" player to throw in a trade, if needed.

The guy I had my eye on for that exception was Jonathan issac. But he’s like 500k greater than the exception. Which means the Celtics would need to have at least that much cap space to fit him into the deal.

The extension for Richardson basically makes that impossible
 

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The guy I had my eye on for that exception was Jonathan issac. But he’s like 500k greater than the exception. Which means the Celtics would need to have at least that much cap space to fit him into the deal.

The extension for Richardson basically makes that impossible
But the C's could easily make up that amount by trading a player back to the Magic, no?
 

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But the C's could easily make up that amount by trading a player back to the Magic, no?

Well if they use Richardson they may not even need to use the exception.
 

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Can they actually come together as a true "team?" Until they do this they won't get anywhere
 

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Can they actually come together as a true "team?" Until they do this they won't get anywhere

Curious if smart can do that by being a selfless facilitator now that his contract is handled
 

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Curious if smart can do that by being a selfless facilitator now that his contract is handled

Has he ever be able to do it though?
 

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Has he ever be able to do it though?

He was never the real pg in Boston. There was also a guy here.

Rondo, IT2, kyrie, kemba.

Now it’s his show.

He also was a pg in college
 

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He was never the real pg in Boston. There was also a guy here.

Rondo, IT2, kyrie, kemba.

Now it’s his show.

He also was a pg in college

Yeah it's "his team" now but does he have that mentality?
 
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