CBA Talks

[thedddd]

This is never good.

Stripling: MLB Tried To "Sneak Things" Past Union Late In Negotiations

Blue Jays right-hander Ross Stripling accused MLB of trying to "sneak things" past the union late in CBA talks. Read more at MLB Trade Rumors.

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“It got to be like 12:30 [in the morning] and the fine print of their CBT proposal was stuff we had never seen before,” says Stripling. “They were trying to sneak things through us, it was like they think we’re dumb baseball players and we get sleepy after midnight or something. … They pushed us to a deadline that they imposed, and then they tried to sneak some shit past us at that deadline and we were ready for it.”

 

[Tai Chi≈Surfing]

Time for MLB and the MLBPA to agree on bringing in an outside neutral mediator/arbitrator to resolve this nonsense.

Greed, egos, arrogance & petty selfishness from both sides has gotten out of control.

 

[catman]

Time for MLB and the MLBPA to agree on bringing in an outside neutral mediator/arbitrator to resolve this nonsense.

Greed, egos, arrogance & petty selfishness from both sides has gotten out of control.

The owners suggested this very thing a while back........

 

[Tai Chi≈Surfing]

The owners suggested this very thing a while back........

I know...and the owners have made things worse since....and to be fair...so have the players.

 

[MilkSpiller22]

from what i hear, the biggest problem seems to be like the Players have been made terrible negotiations in the past... and the owners, although they are giving a lot to the players, its a lot compared to what they had... not what they deserve...

seems like the players are saying, we made major mistakes in the past, now it is your time to pay us everything we deserve... thats not how negotiations work though... owners are not gonna let that fly... nor should they....

 

[thedddd]

 

[molsaniceman]

ROB MANFREDCOM, MLB

According to James Wagner of the New York Times, representatives from MLB and the MLBPA met for about 90 minutes on Thursday.​

This latest meeting took place in New York after a run of ultimately fruitless negotiating sessions in Jupiter, Florida. Four people were involved, two from each side: Dan Halem and Morgan Sword from MLB, and Bruce Meyer and Ian Penny from the MLBPA. Wagner hears that the discussions mostly centered around the timeline for future talks, though there was at least some mention of the multiple core economic issues that derailed the on-time completion of a new CBA. We have no indication here on March 3 that an agreement is at all close.

 

[Pure Steel]

ROB MANFREDCOM, MLB

According to James Wagner of the New York Times, representatives from MLB and the MLBPA met for about 90 minutes on Thursday.​

This latest meeting took place in New York after a run of ultimately fruitless negotiating sessions in Jupiter, Florida. Four people were involved, two from each side: Dan Halem and Morgan Sword from MLB, and Bruce Meyer and Ian Penny from the MLBPA. Wagner hears that the discussions mostly centered around the timeline for future talks, though there was at least some mention of the multiple core economic issues that derailed the on-time completion of a new CBA. We have no indication here on March 3 that an agreement is at all close.

They should just call Saul Goodman.....he gets things done......

 

[molsaniceman]

They should just call Saul Goodman.....he gets things done......

 

[molsaniceman]

Evan Drellich of The Athletic reports that four owners were not in favor of MLB increasing the luxury tax increase to $220 million.​

Those four owners: Bob Castellini of the Reds, Chris Ilitch of the Tigers, Ken Kendrick of the Diamondbacks and Arte Moreno of the Angels. Drellich also writes that the owners proposed including player meal money in calculation of luxury tax, and that "irked" the players. After a brief moment of hope for a deal on Sunday night -- real or not -- there hasn't been much that suggests a deal is near since, and Drellich notes that generally industry sources are "not optimistic" about the season starting in April.

 

[Cedrique]

Soon baseball will be a distant memory and all we'll be left with is vague references to a bygone era.

 

[Cedrique]

Fun fact: A couple of the actors who were supposed to play batters came down with the flu so all 3 of the strikeout victims were played by Adam Dunn. (It was quite a stretch for him, really showed his range as an actor)

 

[calsnowskier]

Fun fact: A couple of the actors who were supposed to play batters came down with the flu so all 3 of the strikeout victims were played by Adam Dunn. (It was quite a stretch for him, really showed his range as an actor)

That was a balk!

 

[The Q]

Idiots

Players gave away that for nothing

 

[The Q]

from what i hear, the biggest problem seems to be like the Players have been made terrible negotiations in the past... and the owners, although they are giving a lot to the players, its a lot compared to what they had... not what they deserve...

seems like the players are saying, we made major mistakes in the past, now it is your time to pay us everything we deserve... thats not how negotiations work though... owners are not gonna let that fly... nor should they....

The owners want an nfl style league and the cap number is 300 mil

Can’t have it both ways

 

[wazzu31]

Honestly I don’t want expanded playoffs, especially without players getting to fa sooner, so I’m ok with Memorial Day opening day now

Expanding playoffs in baseball is a dumb idea by dumb people. I understand the owners being greedy and wanting the extra revenue but how is it good for the game unless all stadiums are forced to have a roof on it.

 

[wazzu31]

from what i hear, the biggest problem seems to be like the Players have been made terrible negotiations in the past... and the owners, although they are giving a lot to the players, its a lot compared to what they had... not what they deserve...

seems like the players are saying, we made major mistakes in the past, now it is your time to pay us everything we deserve... thats not how negotiations work though... owners are not gonna let that fly... nor should they....

It isn’t necessarily that they made terrible negotiations, it’s that MLBPA made negotiations in good faith in which the owners didn’t so it makes it look bad now. The owners got to where they are being greedy assholes but there new level of greed is embarrassing.

 

[Cedrique]

That was a balk!

Cowboy Joe! Is that you?

 

[Tai Chi≈Surfing]

So is there another deadline set for March 7th now?

I think most of them on both sides are busy deciding where to play golf down there in Fla, instead of doing serious constructive negotiating to resolve & avert what they're both trying to ruin.

 

[The Q]

It isn’t necessarily that they made terrible negotiations, it’s that MLBPA made negotiations in good faith in which the owners didn’t so it makes it look bad now. The owners got to where they are being greedy assholes but there new level of greed is embarrassing.

It’s both for sure