Careers up to age 32 season

[flyerhawk]

Listening to The Ringer NBA podcast and Kevin O'Connor brought up this point.

If you compared Lebron James to 32 year old Michael Jordan, you could easily argue that James has been the better player.

So let's compare the two.

Jordan turned 32 in 1995 so we can include that year.

Jordan

3 NBA Titles
3 Finals appearances in 10 seasons
3 NBA Finals MVP
3 MVPs
9 All-Stars
8 All-NBAs 1st team
7 All-defensive player 1st team

James
3 NBA titles
7 NBA finals in 13 seasons
3 NBA finals MVP
4 MVPs
13 All-stars
11 All-NBAs 1st team
5 All-defensive 1st team.

Based on this if James can have anything approaching the same career as Jordan in the back half then it seems that there is a pretty compelling argument that James had the better career.

Obviously a lot of this comes down to rings. If James can carry the Cavs to a title this year he would actually be ahead of Jordan when it comes to titles at this point in their careers.

 

[MHSL82]

LeBron started early and while I don't think that should punish him, it does scene things a bit things a little bit. Where was Jordan at 36?

But then again, right after this, Jordan retired for 2 1/2 years. So the numbers would likely be the same. So where was Jordan at 39?

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

Oh No

This is gonna piss off the masses

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

So let's just ignore Jordan played three years of college ball and retired for two years, and lebron came straight out of high school.

How about you compare careers after playing 14 NBA seasons?

BTW, 7 finals appearances means nothing when you're 3-4 (soon to be 3-5)

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

Listening to The Ringer NBA podcast and Kevin O'Connor brought up this point.

If you compared Lebron James to 32 year old Michael Jordan, you could easily argue that James has been the better player.

So let's compare the two.

Jordan turned 32 in 1995 so we can include that year.

Jordan

3 NBA Titles
3 Finals appearances in 10 seasons
3 NBA Finals MVP
3 MVPs
9 All-Stars
8 All-NBAs 1st team
7 All-defensive player 1st team

James
3 NBA titles
7 NBA finals in 13 seasons
3 NBA finals MVP
4 MVPs
13 All-stars
11 All-NBAs 1st team
5 All-defensive 1st team.

Based on this if James can have anything approaching the same career as Jordan in the back half then it seems that there is a pretty compelling argument that James had the better career.

Obviously a lot of this comes down to rings. If James can carry the Cavs to a title this year he would actually be ahead of Jordan when it comes to titles at this point in their careers.

And Lebron didnt have his father murdered

 

[flyerhawk]

So let's just ignore Jordan played three years of college ball and retired for two years, and lebron came straight out of high school.

How about you compare careers after playing 14 NBA seasons?

BTW, 7 finals appearances means nothing when you're 3-4 (soon to be 3-5)

Well the point is that Lebron could have another 6 or 7 seasons before retires. Regardless of whether Lebron started younger, it's the end result that matters.

It took Jordan 7 years to get to his first NBA final. It took Lebron 3.

And I don't think Jordan gets special dispensation for taking 2 prime seasons off for a voluntary suspension.

 

[flyerhawk]

And Lebron didnt have his father murdered

LOL. I'm more than willing to believe that Lebron had a voluntary suspension imposed on him. I'm not willing to believe that he had anything to do with his father's death.

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

Well the point is that Lebron could have another 6 or 7 seasons before retires. Regardless of whether Lebron started younger, it's the end result that matters.

It took Jordan 7 years to get to his first NBA final. It took Lebron 3.

And I don't think Jordan gets special dispensation for taking 2 prime seasons off for a voluntary suspension.

It took lebron 9 years to win his first title
It took Jordan 7 years

It took Kobe 4 years...

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

LOL. I'm more than willing to believe that Lebron had a voluntary suspension imposed on him. I'm not willing to believe that he had anything to do with his father's death.

LOL

Ill get back to you, we are still investigating

 

[flyerhawk]

It took lebron 9 years to win his first title
It took Jordan 7 years

It took Kobe 4 years...

OK? What does Kobe have to do with this?

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

I just realised this thread is meant for you delusional nut-huggers to share lebron jerking off stories...

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

OK? What does Kobe have to do with this?

I just added another player to show how dumb these comparisons are.

"Kobe had his first three-peat in his first 7 years in the league - he must be the GOAT"

Who had the better stats during a full moon?
Or on days where the player had a salad for lunch?
Or when their shoe-laces were yellow?

Fuck sake you nuthuggers are desperate.

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

Oh No

This is gonna piss off the masses

Or maybe just ShaqDaddy

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

Or maybe just ShaqDaddy

I'm actually extremely amused how desperate you guys are.

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

I just added another player to show how dumb these comparisons are.

"Kobe had his first three-peat in his first 7 years in the league - he must be the GOAT"

Who had the better stats during a full moon?
Or on days where the player had a salad for lunch?
Or when their shoe-laces were yellow?

Fuck sake you nuthuggers are desperate.

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

I'm actually extremely amused how desperate you guys are.

You sound pissed off when you get amused

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

You sound pissed off when you get amused

 

[flyerhawk]

I just added another player to show how dumb these comparisons are.

"Kobe had his first three-peat in his first 7 years in the league - he must be the GOAT"

Who had the better stats during a full moon?
Or on days where the player had a salad for lunch?
Or when their shoe-laces were yellow?

Fuck sake you nuthuggers are desperate.

I listed about 10 states comparing both players at age 32. You said that the stats don't count because apparently Jordan should be given extra credit. THAT's pretty hilarious rationalizing. And now you are trying to criticize me for framing? Too funny.

Regardless of the reasons, Lebron is at the same pace as Jordan at age 32. And he's unlikely to take a couple of seasons off because of his gambling problem. Barring serious injury it is entirely reason to believe that Lebron could win 3 or 4 more titles, especially if he can win this one.

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

I listed about 10 states comparing both players at age 32. You said that the stats don't count because apparently Jordan should be given extra credit. THAT's pretty hilarious rationalizing. And now you are trying to criticize me for framing? Too funny.

Regardless of the reasons, Lebron is at the same pace as Jordan at age 32. And he's unlikely to take a couple of seasons off because of his gambling problem. Barring serious injury it is entirely reason to believe that Lebron could win 3 or 4 more titles, especially if he can win this one.

Firstly, you're ignoring the fact Jordan came in to the league at age 21/22 and lebron was 18...

Secondly "Lebron could win 3 or 4 more titles"...

How drunk are you right now? No seriously.

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

Firstly, you're ignoring the fact Jordan came in to the league at age 21/22 and lebron was 18...

Secondly "Lebron could win 3 or 4 more titles"...

How drunk are you right now? No seriously.

He will be in the Finals for the next 3-4 years, so its not entirely laughable