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Burrow Lobbying for Chase

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Here's my rationale in favor of Pitts.

There's an argument that Stefon Diggs is the best WR in the NFL. The Vikings traded him for a late first round pick and found a comparable replacement with that same pick. There's absolutely no way the Chiefs are finding a comparable replacement TE for Travis Kelce or the Raiders for Waller or the Niners Kittle. There's only a handful of elite receiving TEs while there's a dozen fairly interchangeable elite WRs and another dozen who can still function as number 1 wrs with the right QB and in the right system.

I have no issue with Chase or either of the tackles but I perfer Pitts as maybe your one and only chance to land a game changing TE.
Can't say I disagree with you. Just preparing folks what appears to be happening in our front office. Either way, I will be happy. I was a massive Chase fan back in 19, that hasn't changed. So if we get him, I am very happy. If we don't, I am just hoping it is Pitts, because Pitts is the only player I would accept as a substitute for Chase.
 

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I'd like to see Pitts blocking in the run game, since we use our Tight Ends as run blockers.

but our head coach seems attached to the west coast style fun and gun stuff.
 

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I'd like to see Pitts blocking in the run game, since we use our Tight Ends as run blockers.

but our head coach seems attached to the west coast style fun and gun stuff.
Supposedly that is why we drafted Sample, because he wanted his TE's to be more active in the run game, so how that plays into his game plan with Pitts, not sure.
 

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yea. if Burrow is petitioning for Chase, I believe he feels good with the OL the way it is with our recent additions, and the potential of another pick.

My feeling is what Joe wants, Joe gets. he's the franchise player right now.
 

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Can't say I disagree with you. Just preparing folks what appears to be happening in our front office. Either way, I will be happy. I was a massive Chase fan back in 19, that hasn't changed. So if we get him, I am very happy. If we don't, I am just hoping it is Pitts, because Pitts is the only player I would accept as a substitute for Chase.

If it does end up Chase I'll be on board as soon as his name is called. I just want an impact player with the pick.
 

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FWIW - some numbers:

40 yard: Chase 4.38. Pitts 4.44.

Measures: Chase: 6'0 204lbs Pitts: 6'6" 246lbs

Broad jump: Chase 11' Pitts 10'9"

Pitts also has 10 5/8" hands and has the longest wingspan of any WR/TE in over 20 years at 83 3/8"


Let's just do this - let's draft Pitts and move him to WR full time. Forget blocking. He is going to be an absolute nightmare. He's Calvin Johnson almost in his measurables.
 

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FWIW - some numbers:

40 yard: Chase 4.38. Pitts 4.44.

Measures: Chase: 6'0 204lbs Pitts: 6'6" 246lbs

Broad jump: Chase 11' Pitts 10'9"

Pitts also has 10 5/8" hands and has the longest wingspan of any WR/TE in over 20 years at 83 3/8"


Let's just do this - let's draft Pitts and move him to WR full time. Forget blocking. He is going to be an absolute nightmare. He's Calvin Johnson almost in his measurables.

He could very well play wide in 2 wr sets, there's a lot of possibilities.
 

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FWIW - some numbers:

40 yard: Chase 4.38. Pitts 4.44.

Measures: Chase: 6'0 204lbs Pitts: 6'6" 246lbs

Broad jump: Chase 11' Pitts 10'9"

Pitts also has 10 5/8" hands and has the longest wingspan of any WR/TE in over 20 years at 83 3/8"


Let's just do this - let's draft Pitts and move him to WR full time. Forget blocking. He is going to be an absolute nightmare. He's Calvin Johnson almost in his measurables.
I am not disagreeing with you. I am not 100% sure what I would rather see. Pitts on a LB or Pitts on a CB. Either way, defense is not happy.

Either way, we are golden. I think with Joe's relationship with Chase, he is the pick, but I would be super happy if it was Pitts also. He is going to be a good one. But the second you switch him from TE to WR, you just lost some of his appeal.
 

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I am not disagreeing with you. I am not 100% sure what I would rather see. Pitts on a LB or Pitts on a CB. Either way, defense is not happy.

Either way, we are golden. I think with Joe's relationship with Chase, he is the pick, but I would be super happy if it was Pitts also. He is going to be a good one. But the second you switch him from TE to WR, you just lost some of his appeal.
There really isn't a bad choice. I mean, Sewell, fine. Slater, fine. Pitts, fine. Chase, fine. Trade back, and select someone - fine.

This just means they are going to royally screw this up and take a RB with their first pick. I can feel it.
 

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There really isn't a bad choice. I mean, Sewell, fine. Slater, fine. Pitts, fine. Chase, fine. Trade back, and select someone - fine.

This just means they are going to royally screw this up and take a RB with their first pick. I can feel it.
Not with Mixon making 12 million and Bernard making 5 million or so.
 

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if we trade one of them, then we'll know they're about to draft another rb with the pick that they got in the trade.
 

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Its been a while since we selected a corner number 1. Maybe we can do that.
 

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I mean, we did let Bullock go...gonna need a Kicker...
 

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There is your new RB according to the article.
 

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After watching that performance, I think it’s obvious at this point the Bengals are leaning Ja’Marr Chase at #5. And quite frankly I’m okay with it. While they need to address the protection (no shit) having Joe two step and flick it to Chase in space isn’t a bad wrinkle to add either.

Chase is fascinating to me. Like a shorter Dez Bryant playing the ball, but with Davante Adams footwork. If not for Kyle Pitts, there’s no better OW in this draft to give Joe. Not to mention the obvious connection from the ‘19 LSU team.

That means best available OL in rounds 2-3. They’ll have their choice of some good ones. I know everyone had their hopes set on Sewell for 6 months. But the Bengals may actually be smart to go WR/OL/OL and really maximize the depth of this class, while adding more than one difference maker on offense.
 

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After watching that performance, I think it’s obvious at this point the Bengals are leaning Ja’Marr Chase at #5. And quite frankly I’m okay with it. While they need to address the protection (no shit) having Joe two step and flick it to Chase in space isn’t a bad wrinkle to add either.

Chase is fascinating to me. Like a shorter Dez Bryant playing the ball, but with Davante Adams footwork. If not for Kyle Pitts, there’s no better OW in this draft to give Joe. Not to mention the obvious connection from the ‘19 LSU team.

That means best available OL in rounds 2-3. They’ll have their choice of some good ones. I know everyone had their hopes set on Sewell for 6 months. But the Bengals may actually be smart to go WR/OL/OL and really maximize the depth of this class, while adding more than one difference maker on offense.
If it shakes out this way, I would be happy. I think the free agency investments on D allow you to go first three picks on offense. And I like the idea of 2nd and 3rd rounders for the line. As you said, people are saying the depth is going to be good at that position.

An offense with Chase, Boyd, Higgins, and Mixon as your specialists is dangerous. My only concern would be that the running game would still struggle. My recollection is that Taylor falls in love with 11 personnel, but we have terrible runnings stats from that set.
 

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So I just watched both pro days highlights for Pitts and Chase. Chase is much more shifty, better footwork. Both are very smooth catching the ball, great speed, good at tracking ball in the air. Pitts has crazy size, wow dude is huge to be having that kind of speed and agility. I will tell you, I was actually quite impressed with Kyle Trask's Pro Day. Maybe worth a 4th round pick to be Burrow's backup? I was pretty impressed with his stuff. I wouldn't draft him higher than 4th with our needs, but if he happened to fall to our 4th pick, I think as a team, I would hope we would consider it.
 

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So I just watched both pro days highlights for Pitts and Chase. Chase is much more shifty, better footwork. Both are very smooth catching the ball, great speed, good at tracking ball in the air. Pitts has crazy size, wow dude is huge to be having that kind of speed and agility. I will tell you, I was actually quite impressed with Kyle Trask's Pro Day. Maybe worth a 4th round pick to be Burrow's backup? I was pretty impressed with his stuff. I wouldn't draft him higher than 4th with our needs, but if he happened to fall to our 4th pick, I think as a team, I would hope we would consider it.
some team with an older QB would be more likely to beat us to it.

we still have a lot of needs on defense and the OL is only mid-tier with the recent upgrades, and it needs to be top tier the way our offense is structured.
 
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