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BREAKING: Wilson signs 4 year $87.5M deal

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C'mon Rock. I was not comparing Brady the player to Wilson the player. I compared their STATS.
Since neither you nor purguy can figure out a point of a message, I'll type slower (for purguy) so you have a better chance.

Brady, in his first 3 years, never passed for more than 4,000 yards, not even close.
Wilson, in his first 3 years, never passed for more than 4,000 yards, not even close.

Brady, in his later years, passed for 4,000+ many times. What changed?

In your and purguys opinion, This type of change will NEVER happen in RW's career! Is that correct?
to compare stats you compare the player.

its the natural progression of said comparison.

as far as brady...what changed?

the entire offense. the players style remained the same.

wilsons, wont.
 

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FACT:

The top 2 posters on this Russel Wilson thread are a Patriots fan and a 49ers fan.
fact

lemons arent really yellow, we just see them that way.
 

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Fuck this place, Rock. Let's go kill something. Which rifle do you want today. My 1954 Winny or the Marlin .375?
 

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anyone on my payton/taylor comparison?

you know...the "first 3 years" thing?

i will expect it to be ignored going forward.
 

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fail to realize?

ive failed at nothing so far.

hes not a pocket passer whos asked to carry a team.

hes a guy who can make plays with his legs to get clear throwing lanes. he is a 200 yard per contest, game manager.

and i like wilson.


Wait a minute, you just changed your argument, first Wilsons not a pocket passer. Once I drop knowledge bombs on you you change it up and now he's not a Pocket passer who is asked to carry his team.......

AND your done.
 

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Fuck this place, Rock. Let's go kill something. Which rifle do you want today. My 1954 Winny or the Marlin .375?
i need to sue a muzzle loader as i dont have a license. i will be useless in a defensive situation.
 

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Wait a minute, you just changed your argument, first Wilsons not a pocket passer. Once I drop knowledge bombs on you you change it up and now he's not a Pocket passer who is asked to carry his team.......

AND your done.
no, i didnt change anything.

"wait"

i jumped in when someone here said wilson wasnt asked to carry a team. i replied as such.

thus, my 200 yard 16-16 comments.

would you like bread crumbs?
 

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so, i take it after my class you know what a pocket passer is, and how shameful it was to compare brees to wilson in that respect.

i respect your above opinion....but think before you make comparisons going forward.

This was 2013 stats. I'll look for 2014, but you can see that the myth of him being better outside the pocket is just that, a myth. He's actually better from the pocket.

INSIDE THE POCKET

322 attempts
213 completions
2,568 yards
20 TDs
5 INTs
66.1 completion percentage
8.0 yards per attempt
6.2 TD percentage
1.6 INT percentage
104.7 passer rating

OUTSIDE OF THE POCKET

153 attempts
87 completions
1,313 yards
9 TDs
4 INTs
56.9 completion percentage
8.6 yards per attempt
5.9 TD percentage
2.6 INT percentage
93.9 passer rating
 

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It's probably the structure he didn't like of the first one. It's a boat load of guaranteed money.

true, the initial one probably didnt have that much guaranteed
 

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Fuck this place, Rock. Let's go kill something. Which rifle do you want today. My 1954 Winny or the Marlin .375?
1 month till deer season and 43 days till elk!!!!
 

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i need to sue a muzzle loader as i dont have a license. i will be useless in a defensive situation.

Hunting license? Hell, I got tags for everything. I'll let you use one and we'll tell the game warden that i shot it.
 

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brees season high in rushing yards?

130...when he was 23. his career average is 1.9 per carry, or basically...falling forward.

wilson?

900 and change. he averages 6 yards a carry.

"whats a pocket passer?"

jesus effing christ.

Well I guess I'm pretty god damn happy he isn't a pure pocket passer then because any non-mobile QB behind that o-line with the receivers Seattle had last year would have died. He scrambles when he has to, takes off when it's the best option and he makes plays. I'll take that any day of the week.
 

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1 month till deer season and 43 days till elk!!!!
Which side of the mountains are you on. Black tail on the West side. Mulies and white tail on the east side. In recent years i've gottten to where i like turkey hunting better.
 

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This was 2013 stats. I'll look for 2014, but you can see that the myth of him being better outside the pocket is just that, a myth. He's actually better from the pocket.

INSIDE THE POCKET

322 attempts
213 completions
2,568 yards
20 TDs
5 INTs
66.1 completion percentage
8.0 yards per attempt
6.2 TD percentage
1.6 INT percentage
104.7 passer rating

OUTSIDE OF THE POCKET

153 attempts
87 completions
1,313 yards
9 TDs
4 INTs
56.9 completion percentage
8.6 yards per attempt
5.9 TD percentage
2.6 INT percentage
93.9 passer rating

sigh

more of this?

if hes a runner, you play defense as such, and DB's need more "honesty" as such.

of course its going to allow for inflated pocket numbers.

ive already debunked this stuff in prior threads.

so far youve compared wilson to brees, and brady to wilson...both frankly, terrible comparisons to make.

and still my payton/taylor numbers go ignored.
 

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Which side of the mountains are you on. Black tail on the West side. Mulies and white tail on the east side. In recent years i've gottten to where i like turkey hunting better.
I'm just east of Spokane.
 

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Then why didn't the future president of the United States launch her political career in Arkansas instead of New York?

Because she's already moved on from Arkansas decades earlier? Because it's Arkansas? Is that a trick question? Washington State = Arkansas? But she didn't say to Billio when they were IN Arkansas, hey dear, someday after you become president, I'm going to be president, so we need to move to NY now!

No, she stayed in Arkansas, and then went to DC.

Did Largent's being in Seattle hurt his political career, yes or no?
 

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Well I guess I'm pretty god damn happy he isn't a pure pocket passer then because any non-mobile QB behind that o-line with the receivers Seattle had last year would have died. He scrambles when he has to, takes off when it's the best option and he makes plays. I'll take that any day of the week.
yup, and no issue with that.

but calling him a pocket passer is frankly, silly.
 

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anyone on my payton/taylor comparison?

you know...the "first 3 years" thing?

i will expect it to be ignored going forward.

I think the original point was that looking at someone's first three years doesn't always tell you everything about that player. Nobody is saying that if Player A and Player B had similar stats for three years and therefore Player A and Player B will have the same stats for their entire careers.
 
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