Mobley signs 5 Year Contract Extension

[Wamu]

It'll be interesting to see what Mobley looks like in a new system.

Last season he set career highs in total rebs, offensive rebs, asts, FG%, 3-point FG% and FT% while playing the fewest minutes per game of his young career. Hope he can stay healthy this season. Last season he missed 32 games.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

So, the last time I said a guy didn’t deserve his deal was Jalen Brunson.

So, I’m just gonna sit this one out.

Is Mobley a max player now?

No.

Neither is Barnes or Franz Wagner.

Of the 3, Mobley has max level talent….imo

So let’s give it a few more years.

 

[logic]

So, the last time I said a guy didn’t deserve his deal was Jalen Brunson.

So, I’m just gonna sit this one out.

Is Mobley a max player now?

No.

Neither is Barnes or Franz Wagner.

Of the 3, Mobley has max level talent….imo

So let’s give it a few more years.

Man, no one is even mentioning Cade got paid too
He’s put up good numbers, but not wins.
What’s your feelings on him getting the bag?
Pistons had no choice, but, to me, he’s still got A LOT to prove.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

Man, no one is even mentioning Cade got paid too
He’s put up good numbers, but not wins.
What’s your feelings on him getting the bag?
Pistons had no choice, but, to me, he’s still got A LOT to prove.

I think I commented when it happened.

I’m not sure what Cade really is.

Foundational piece or complimentary piece?

I lean the latter.

He’s no CP3.

Not even sure he is Deron Williams.

Although he does have his injury history so far, I think the Pistons sandbagged a bit and Sat him longer than needed hoping for better draft odds.

But yeah, they had no choice but to pay.

I just hope they don’t give up on him to quick like the Celtics did Chauncey.

 

[logic]

I think I commented when it happened.

I’m not sure what Cade really is.

Foundational piece or complimentary piece?

I lean the latter.

He’s no CP3.

Not even sure he is Deron Williams.

Although he does have his injury history so far, I think the Pistons sandbagged a bit and Sat him longer than needed hoping for better draft odds.

But yeah, they had no choice but to pay.

I just hope they don’t give up on him to quick like the Celtics did Chauncey.

I agree in that I think Cade is more Pippen than Jordan.
A good to great player, but not necessarily "the one".
I am in the vast minority of Pistons fans. Most think we should do everything we can to build around him; nothing but shooters and him penetrating and kicking out. Even if Cade is that guy this strategy only gets you to the playoffs, not through the playoffs.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

I agree in that I think Cade is more Pippen than Jordan.
A good to great player, but not necessarily "the one".
I am in the vast minority of Pistons fans. Most think we should do everything we can to build around him; nothing but shooters and him penetrating and kicking out. Even if Cade is that guy this strategy only gets you to the playoffs, not through the playoffs.

First step to that master plan is to deal Ivey for pieces that fit.

You see Killian got another job?

Well, at least the chance to fight for a roster spot in Brooklyn.

Sneaky tanking?

#GoIntoThePooper4Cooper

 

[Shanemansj13]

That’s the only way the Cavs rise to the level Wiggy wants to elevate them to. Mobley needs to become their best player or at least rise to a level where there is a debate whether or not Mobley or Mitchell is the best player. Right now Mobley is an inconsistent and meek 3rd option who doesn’t assert himself enough on a rookie max deal.

Yeah he needs to be a 1b or 2. Basically like an AD to Bron eventually...I mean even a Draymond type of player with a better offensive skill set is needed

 

[Shanemansj13]

Is it fit, or perhaps he just isn't going to be that player? Only time will tell I guess (and we may never know about fit).

It is not all coaching but could be part of it. Also, maybe he isn't as assertive as he should be bc he has other guys like Garland and Mitchell who have the ball in their hands more and are scoring guards. Maybe Atkinson's new system can unlock that next level. Hopefully

 

[fightinfunbags]

It is not all coaching but could be part of it. Also, maybe he isn't as assertive as he should be bc he has other guys like Garland and Mitchell who have the ball in their hands more and are scoring guards. Maybe Atkinson's new system can unlock that next level. Hopefully

Maybe it was because of the personnel that he had but Atkinson seemed to play your turn my turn iso ball with DLo, Dinwiddie, LaVert quite a bit. I don’t recall there being a whole lot of ball and player movement. It was a lot of matchup basketball.

Mobley being 7 foot but highly skilled should be a major option in that scheme. He has to be assertive though and that’s the big task Kenny has.

 

[Shanemansj13]

Maybe it was because of the personnel that he had but Atkinson seemed to play your turn my turn iso ball with DLo, Dinwiddie, LaVert quite a bit. I don’t recall there being a whole lot of ball and player movement. It was a lot of matchup basketball.

I knew he was a guard whisperer. I think Mitchell for the most part is always going to be that type of player to an extent. He is too great at iso. Garland is not that Levert or Mitchell type as much. He never had a player like Mobley in BKN though so curious how he uses him. He said he will put the ball in his hands more and let him find guys so that tells me there will be more movement on offense.

 

[fightinfunbags]

I knew he was a guard whisperer. I think Mitchell for the most part is always going to be that type of player to an extent. He is too great at iso. Garland is not that Levert or Mitchell type as much. He never had a player like Mobley in BKN though so curious how he uses him. He said he will put the ball in his hands more and let him find guys so that tells me there will be more movement on offense.

I hit send before I closed with why I think looking for mismatches fits Mobley’s skill set if they can tap into it so I edited it.

 

[logic]

First step to that master plan is to deal Ivey for pieces that fit.

You see Killian got another job?

Well, at least the chance to fight for a roster spot in Brooklyn.

Sneaky tanking?

#GoIntoThePooper4Cooper

I think Cade and Ivey can fit IF Ivey comes into the season with an improved jumper and Cade is willing to share the ball with him. Oh, and need some defense. They have some in Holland and Ausar that could play the two, but neither of them have shown they can hit a jumper either.

I think Killian can be a fine backup point guard in the NBA, he was just never going to meet expectations that Pistons fans had for him after his hip injury. If he ever get a jumper he could be a serviceable starter even. But there is nothing sneaky about the tanking going on in Brooklyn.

And the Pistons have been living in the pooper and aren't climbing out this year; hopefully it pays off again with Cooper.

 

[dtgold88]

Evan Mobley signs reported 5-year, $224 million extension with Cavs | NBA.com

The Cavaliers' versatile big man reportedly becomes the 4th member of the 2021 NBA Draft class to earn a 5-year maximum extension.

www.nba.com

Evan Mobley will now be a Cavalier through at least the 2028-2029 season.

With all those 1st round picks going to the Jazz in the years to come- it was so important to get this done- but it all started with Donovan Mitchell re-signing. The Jazz have to be extremely disappointed.

Cavaliers now have Mitchell, Mobley and Garland under long term deals under rates that will just look better and better as the salary cap explodes- they will avoid the tax line this year too which is important for the long term build of the franchise. This deal guarantees that Garland, Mitchell and Mobley will be together for their primes (unless of course a trade is made).

This gives the Cavs a 3-5 year run way to keep growing together and keep taking steps forward- gives them a great base and stability while still leaving them flexibility---- delaying going into the tax for 1 more year is also huge for roster flexibility.

Not counting Mobley- Cleveland- in the last 10 years has signed free agents LeBron James, Kevin Love (twice), and Donovan Mitchell- 3 Hall of Fame Talents---- in addition to Garland and Mobley- great young talents coming off rookie deals.

Think of that- Cleveland- a small market team that @tlance said could not sign these guys- signed LeBron James, Kevin Love (twice), and Donovan Mitchell- to long term contract extensions-- it just goes to show you that if you are a small market team that builds the right culture and team- you can sign big time free agents that could go anywhere and demand a max salary.

@dtgold88 @Shanemansj13

Just saw this and some good comments. Not sure the Jazz are upset about this, but agree with most of the rest.

 

[dtgold88]

The only one here that’s a free agent signing is LeBron and he grew up in Akron and was coming home. Kevin Love and Donovan Mitchell were acquired by trade. In the NBA, the team that owns your rights has a leg up in being able to pay you the highest salary.

Again…you over state things with your hyperbole. Cleveland isn’t a free agent destination and that’s ok. They don’t have to be. They just have to conduct business differently than Miami, Lakers and the New York teams. There aren’t many destination cities in the NBA.

That's fair, but also to be fair even though he was here many had Love leaving to go to LA as soon as he had the chance.....and of course many thought Mitchell was a lock to go (including you, maybe?).

 

[dtgold88]

That’s the only way the Cavs rise to the level Wiggy wants to elevate them to. Mobley needs to become their best player or at least rise to a level where there is a debate whether or not Mobley or Mitchell is the best player. Right now Mobley is an inconsistent and meek 3rd option who doesn’t assert himself enough on a rookie max deal.

inconsistent and meek 3rd option? Been in the 15-16 ppg range most of career and only has not risen from that consistent amount because we added a 18 ppg ball dominant scorer.....but his efficiency on O has gotten much better each season.


Could he shoot more? sure, but meek is as usual an exaggeration. I'd also add 5 players in the sport went for 15-16 ppg or more, 9 rpg or more AND shot 58% or more. One was his teammate (Allen) and the others were Giannis, Joker and Sabonis.

 

[dtgold88]

We will see. I stepped out the day of the Mitchell trade and said one basketball with ball dominant Mitchell and Garland would harm the development of Mobley. Not sure I was right on the cause but his development is definitely happening slowly.

Not over though. Still time for him to find it. He better hurry though as he is probably most responsible for Bickerstaff losing his job.

did well until the end IMO....JB was gone barring an ECF appearance, whether right or wrong (maybe barring a title), and Mobley was not the reason we didn't get there.

 

[fightinfunbags]

That's fair, but also to be fair even though he was here many had Love leaving to go to LA as soon as he had the chance.....and of course many thought Mitchell was a lock to go (including you, maybe?).

That’s just rumor. You habitually dismiss rumor when it doesn’t fit your narrative. You’re not gonna use it now.

 

[dtgold88]

It’s actually the same deal and I think Barnes has already shown the rise to justify a max. Mobley is a projection of potential that he will be worth that max number

Maybe Barnes had the rise because he plays with lesser players? you really think their stats are the same if Mobley a Raptor and Barnes was here? I think more likely Mobley numbers go way up and more like a 20-12 guy. In addition, perhaps his defense leads to more winning as clearly without help Barnes style as a #1 does not lead to winning games.

 

[dtgold88]

Barnes is a good player but is it the case of a good player on a bad team?

Mobley is a also a good player but on a better team. And Mobley isn't the primary option on the Cavs like Barnes is on the Raps. And he handles the ball a lot more than Mobley who is a big and cannot always get his FGA's. That is dependent on the PG getting him the ball.

kind of ninjad

 

[fightinfunbags]

did well until the end IMO....JB was gone barring an ECF appearance, whether right or wrong (maybe barring a title), and Mobley was not the reason we didn't get there.

I don’t really give a fuck about your defense because it doesn’t matter and it’s all just excuse making. The Cavs will never compete without a huge leap from Mobley.