POLL B1G Championship Game Ohio State vs Wisconsin

[Smart]

I'd say 55% Wisconsin win, 45% Ohio State.

I think it probably comes down to the two lines. Our OL has tended to start out slow but impose their will by the end of the game. OSU's depth of talent worries me, as I'm not sure they will ever tire like a lot of the Big Ten teams. But if the Wisconsin OL can outplay OSU, I think the OSU secondary and linebackers are much worse than their coverage was a year ago. Horni is going to have to make plays, but he's been beyond clutch all year. If Horni has time to make plays, I think Taylor has the ability to turn this into Iowa 2.0.

On defense, the performance the last few weeks has been amazing. I'm not particularly worried about short yardage. This has been by far the best red zone and short yardage defense in the country. I am definitely worried about a few big plays like last year, as I think OSU will be the first offense all year to really be able to challenge our safeties. Once again, pressure will be the key. People keep citing to Iowa, but Iowa's defense dominated largely on the back of Justin Jackson, one of the best DBs in America. If our DBs have to last as long as Iowa's DBs, the results won't be good.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

Yes, I do. It was a very even game for 3 quarters, then they pulled away in the 4th and won decidedly.

I bring up the cameraman because out of nowhere, not 1 but 2 of our most important players are getting hit by them on the sidelines. Check out Weber's picture:

Photo: Ohio State RB Mike Weber shows arm injury from camera

What about when they outgained you by 150 yards in the first half, turned the ball over 3 times in OSU territory and missed a FG? That is playing them evenly, but a game where UM has the ball with 3 minutes to go in a 4 point game is beating them decidedly? That makes no sense?

And while the camera situation sucks — the university doesn’t employ them. Fox does or whoever is televising the game. So unless we paid off Fox to hit players decked out in full pads with cameras, it sounds like it is an unfortunate incident. About as much responsibility UM has in the situation is the fact the sidelines are tight in the stadium.

 

[Rolltide94]

All depends. If the same OSU that played in Iowa shows up, you definitely will. If it's the one that showed up the following week vs. MSU, you guys are getting drilled.

Hmmm...you mean you guys are inconsistent...who knew?

 

[Smart]

Michigan has. Unless Wisconsin somehow talks OSU into having John O’Korn play QB for the game — OSU wins.

You can say this, but just about everywhere on the web that I've seen, the vast majority of Michigan fans disagree. In the "who played better against Michigan" test, the general answer has been Wisconsin. Of course, those same fans have been saying Michigan would have beaten OSU with Peters, so maybe they are just in denial.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

I'd say 55% Wisconsin win, 45% Ohio State.

I think it probably comes down to the two lines. Our OL has tended to start out slow but impose their will by the end of the game. OSU's depth of talent worries me, as I'm not sure they will ever tire like a lot of the Big Ten teams. But if the Wisconsin OL can outplay OSU, I think the OSU secondary and linebackers are much worse than their coverage was a year ago. Horni is going to have to make plays, but he's been beyond clutch all year. If Horni has time to make plays, I think Taylor has the ability to turn this into Iowa 2.0.

On defense, the performance the last few weeks has been amazing. I'm not particularly worried about short yardage. This has been by far the best red zone and short yardage defense in the country. I am definitely worried about a few big plays like last year, as I think OSU will be the first offense all year to really be able to challenge our safeties. Once again, pressure will be the key. People keep citing to Iowa, but Iowa's defense dominated largely on the back of Justin Jackson, one of the best DBs in America. If our DBs have to last as long as Iowa's DBs, the results won't be good.

OSU will be the first offense Wisconsin has faced that has a pulse. Just saying.

 

[Smart]

OSU will be the first offense Wisconsin has faced that has a pulse. Just saying.

You may be right, but remember that a much worse version of this offense put up 450 yards on Ohio State last year.

I actually think this game will look a lot like that game last year, for what it's worth. I think we are a fair bit better and OSU is a tiny bit worse, but obviously moving from Camp Randall to a neutral site (much closer to Columbus, no less) offsets most of that. I think either way it will be a 31-27 game or something like that, and I hope we can come out on top.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

You can say this, but just about everywhere on the web that I've seen, the vast majority of Michigan fans disagree. In the "who played better against Michigan" test, the general answer has been Wisconsin. Of course, those same fans have been saying Michigan would have beaten OSU with Peters, so maybe they are just in denial.

You aren’t going to get many Michigan fans that will give you a honest answer when it comes to Ohio State, especially after losing Saturday.

I don’t let the rivalry cloud my thoughts on the two teams. I think OSU will be the best offense by a landslide that Wisconsin has faced. They have the best QB you have faced, the best RBs you have faced and most likely, since NW is the best P5 offense you’ve faced, they also have the best WRs you will have faced.

It will come down to, if the defense can force 3 and outs by OSU. That is what won the game for Wisconsin against UM. UM missed on a few drives to start the 2nd half and once Peters was out, O’Korn couldn’t hit the broad side of the barn and we only had the ball like 5 of the last 20 minutes of the game and Wisconsin just wore UM down.

The reason I say OSU wins — they have the same type of defense as UM which held Wisconsin in check for much of the game, but have an offense that can moves the chains and put up points (which UM doesn’t have)

I’m not sure how Wisconsin OL will handle the pressure OSU can bring. UM had 3 sacks, 4 qb pressures (and 9 tackles for loss) and you only threw 19 times.

Also if OSU jumps out to a lead — I’m not sold on Hornibrook passing the ball to make a comeback. He makes too many mistakes. Because of a soft schedule, the turnovers didn’t come back to bite you, but 13 picks on only 240 attempts isn’t good.

 

[fishinabarrel]

I'd say 55% Wisconsin win, 45% Ohio State.

I think it probably comes down to the two lines. Our OL has tended to start out slow but impose their will by the end of the game. OSU's depth of talent worries me, as I'm not sure they will ever tire like a lot of the Big Ten teams. But if the Wisconsin OL can outplay OSU, I think the OSU secondary and linebackers are much worse than their coverage was a year ago. Horni is going to have to make plays, but he's been beyond clutch all year. If Horni has time to make plays, I think Taylor has the ability to turn this into Iowa 2.0.

On defense, the performance the last few weeks has been amazing. I'm not particularly worried about short yardage. This has been by far the best red zone and short yardage defense in the country. I am definitely worried about a few big plays like last year, as I think OSU will be the first offense all year to really be able to challenge our safeties. Once again, pressure will be the key. People keep citing to Iowa, but Iowa's defense dominated largely on the back of Justin Jackson, one of the best DBs in America. If our DBs have to last as long as Iowa's DBs, the results won't be good.

1. You are right on the depth of Ohio State's defensive line. That will be the advantage they have over the other teams Wisconsin faced. They rotate a lot of guys all game.

2. You aren't beating us as bad as Iowa. I just can't imagine this coaching staff and these players all coming together for the perfect storm of awfulness again this year. You could very well beat us as bad as Oklahoma tho should they decide to play shitty.

3. LB play has improved now that they moved Borland to the middle and let Worley move to his more natural position outside. We were rotating in a walk on last year so I'd say its not too big of a drop off. Secondary has had a huge drop off and damn well it should, we lost 3 freaking first round draft picks. Denzel Ward can only do so much.

4. It will be interesting on who starts at QB for Ohio State because Haskins and Barrett have such different skill sets. I honestly think Haskins skill set is better for this game because of his ability to stretch the field with his arm. Not saying Ohio State can't win with Barrett, I just think a RO offense plays more into the strength of Wisky's defense.

Think it is going to be a fun and hard hitting game. Can't wait for Saturday

 

[Great Dayne]

You may be right, but remember that a much worse version of this offense put up 450 yards on Ohio State last year.

I actually think this game will look a lot like that game last year, for what it's worth. I think we are a fair bit better and OSU is a tiny bit worse, but obviously moving from Camp Randall to a neutral site (much closer to Columbus, no less) offsets most of that. I think either way it will be a 31-27 game or something like that, and I hope we can come out on top.

That's the exact score this computer has projected (been right about OSU games all year.

 

[Innermind]

Wisconsin wins because the entire Buckeye team and staff are quite shaken after a distraught Greg Schiano shoots-up the Woody Hayes Athletic Center after losing the Tennessee job opportunity.

The incident causes Urban Meyer to have another fake heart attack.

Leading to Schiano taking over the reigns of the Buckeyes football program.

 

[kburjr]

Yes, I do. It was a very even game for 3 quarters, then they pulled away in the 4th and won decidedly.

I bring up the cameraman because out of nowhere, not 1 but 2 of our most important players are getting hit by them on the sidelines. Check out Weber's picture:

Photo: Ohio State RB Mike Weber shows arm injury from camera

Looking for Tonya Harding's phone number.

 

[Great Dayne]

OSU fan from 247 message boards

"I'm an OSU fan and am predicting Wisconsin to win. OSU offense is terrible this season against solid defenses due to the game passing Urban by, his offense is no longer innovative and is all east west plays instead of going north/south. He also relies too much on the QB running the football in big moments.

On defense besides Nick Bosa the defensive line is overrated and small. The linebackers are fast and athletic but have an IQ collectively of like 60 because they cannot read play action or set edges very well. Secondary is very average and only has one good player.

I expect you guys to pound the run with Taylor and hit PA passes with relative ease all night as OSU will not be able to stop either one. You will also shutdown OSUs read option as they don't have much or any of a passing game you need to worry about.

Next season is definitely OSUs year, this year was another down year tbh."

 

[Great Dayne]

Many OSU fans are predicting a Wisconsin win on the 247 message boards as they should.

 

[8085sooner]

It depends on which JT and tOSU shows up.

 

[BigAppleBadger]

I don’t get the OSU fans who are debating whether JT should start. Wisconsin struggles with highly mobile QBs and it was JT’s 90+ yards on the ground that enabled OSU to pull out the OT win in Madison last year.

 

[fishinabarrel]

I don’t get the OSU fans who are debating whether JT should start. Wisconsin struggles with highly mobile QBs and it was JT’s 90+ yards on the ground that enabled OSU to pull out the OT win in Madison last year.

You could also say it was Cardales ability to stretch the field that helped Ohio State destroy Wisky in 14

 

[fishinabarrel]

OSU fan from 247 message boards

"I'm an OSU fan and am predicting Wisconsin to win. OSU offense is terrible this season against solid defenses due to the game passing Urban by, his offense is no longer innovative and is all east west plays instead of going north/south. He also relies too much on the QB running the football in big moments.

On defense besides Nick Bosa the defensive line is overrated and small. The linebackers are fast and athletic but have an IQ collectively of like 60 because they cannot read play action or set edges very well. Secondary is very average and only has one good player.

I expect you guys to pound the run with Taylor and hit PA passes with relative ease all night as OSU will not be able to stop either one. You will also shutdown OSUs read option as they don't have much or any of a passing game you need to worry about.

Next season is definitely OSUs year, this year was another down year tbh."

The game passing urban by. What an idiot and that is putting it nicely.

 

[WNY_FOOTBALL_DUDE]

I am going with Wisky here. This will be their toughest test. But I look at two key CO this season: Iowa and Michigan.

The Badgers beat the Wolverines by 14 points. Ohio State won by 11. I'll give that a draw. Wisky won at home, OSU won on the road.

Iowa beat OSU by 31 points, Wisky beat Iowa by 24 points. Grant it, Ohio State lost on the road and Wisky won at home. But you still have a tale of two different results.

I think the Iowa common opponent is why I am going with Wisky here. Plus, Wisky has beaten everybody they played and won by at least 11 points, I believe.

 

[fishinabarrel]

I am going with Wisky here. This will be their toughest test. But I look at two key CO this season: Iowa and Michigan.

The Badgers beat the Wolverines by 14 points. Ohio State won by 11. I'll give that a draw. Wisky won at home, OSU won on the road.

Iowa beat OSU by 31 points, Wisky beat Iowa by 24 points. Grant it, Ohio State lost on the road and Wisky won at home. But you still have a tale of two different results.

I think the Iowa common opponent is why I am going with Wisky here. Plus, Wisky has beaten everybody they played and won by at least 11 points, I believe.

Using Iowa as the common opponent, Ohio State probably shouldn't have won a game this year when their opponent played Iowa

 

[BigAppleBadger]

Using Iowa as the common opponent, Ohio State probably shouldn't have won a game this year when their opponent played Iowa

Yeah I'm gonna go ahead and call that game a fluke. If Ohio State played like that every week they'd be 4-8 or so.