B12 expansion

[OregonDucks]

Has the Big12 thought of getting Colorado?

 

[Wild Turkey]

I find that so stupid. One day ADs will realize that non-revenue sports do not need to be part off revenue spor conferences. Just set up regional conferences for smaller sports. The 2 have basically become different animals.

I agree with the exceptions of basketball and baseball. In the SEC both have conference championship tournaments that are big draws and money makers. Everything else you can throw in one big pot and just do regional play.

 

[Deep Creek]

I find that so stupid. One day ADs will realize that non-revenue sports do not need to be part off revenue spor conferences. Just set up regional conferences for smaller sports. The 2 have basically become different animals.

Very true. The two animals are now revenue producing and revenue consuming sports. Only a few could be neutral. The decision for schools is which revenue consumers to keep. Example: I think I saw where only 6 Big 12 schools play softball.

 

[Lance Armstrong]

Has the Big12 thought of getting Colorado?

nice try, The big 12 has a no refund policy.

 

[ralphiewvu]

Has the Big12 thought of getting Colorado?

No the B12 is in talks with the Arizona and SoCal schools.

Oregon would be a nice addition for the Mountain West Conference.

 

[Codaxx]

This is one of the dumber things I have seen. Boren is out touting this dumbass report

"The numbers run by Chicago-based Navigate Research show the Big 12 has a 4-5 percent better chance of reaching the top four in the CFP by adding two teams"

So even if your "numbers" are correct, you are telling me that adding 2 teams to the Big 12 will result in 1 additional Playoff appearance over 20 years? I think I will say no thank you and keep revenue exactly where it is currently

 

[Wild Turkey]

This is one of the dumber things I have seen. Boren is out touting this dumbass report

"The numbers run by Chicago-based Navigate Research show the Big 12 has a 4-5 percent better chance of reaching the top four in the CFP by adding two teams"

So even if your "numbers" are correct, you are telling me that adding 2 teams to the Big 12 will result in 1 additional Playoff appearance over 20 years? I think I will say no thank you and keep revenue exactly where it is currently

It's even dumber than that as we know right now the Big 12 has a 50% shot with one loss most years and there is no other way to quantify any other numbers. If the Big 12 expanded it could be argued that OU's chances of making the playoffs actually decrease. It's just not a viable argument.

 

[HuskerinBig10]

What does ND get from the ACC? I believe they get $15M from NBC, which is less than the tier 1 rights in the B1G with the new deal.

Edit: They get nothing from football:



Answering some FAQs about ACC’s addition of Notre Dame |

I believe Notre Dame received something like $4,000,000 in revenue distribution from the ACC. Plus or minus $1,000,000. ND also gets to play Duke, NC State, Miami, Syracuse, and V tech. No Clemson and no FSU.

BTW, this thread is Big 12 expansion. Mustn't be anything happening as it is already being sidetracked.

 

[nddulac]

They need to get over their butthurt of not being invited in how many decades ago it was. Membership has it's privileges and at this point I think they need conference affiliation.

Why?

Last time I checked, Notre Dame isn't exactly going broke . . .

 

[GoldRusher]

In the meantime....... a few hours ago.....

......per FOX Sports' Tim Brando.....

.....Notre Dame is supposedly contemplating the idea of either full ACC membership or full B1G membership... whichever brings them more money.

FOX Sports’ Tim Brando Thinks Conference Realignment Could Be On The Horizon, Notre Dame A Key Piece






With NBC/Comcast currently in negotiations with the B1G..... the possibility of re-structuring the NBC-Notre Dame deal with full B1G membership sounds intriguing, and might be much more $$$ than the upcoming ACC-ESPN potential network deal.

I thought ND was contractually obligated to join the ACC as a full member if they ever decided to join a conference?

 

[Texas Jefe]

This is one of the dumber things I have seen. Boren is out touting this dumbass report

"The numbers run by Chicago-based Navigate Research show the Big 12 has a 4-5 percent better chance of reaching the top four in the CFP by adding two teams"

So even if your "numbers" are correct, you are telling me that adding 2 teams to the Big 12 will result in 1 additional Playoff appearance over 20 years? I think I will say no thank you and keep revenue exactly where it is currently

The powers that be (tv people) have an agenda, and they are using Boren, along with this 'we must expand' agenda they've propped up, to get the Big12 to expand AND have a champ game. Big12 could stay at ten and still have the game, but they've (the folks with the agenda) now come out and upped the percentages IF THEY EXPAND plus have the CG.

Texas is just sitting on the sidelines, and is not going to say anything. Plus, Texas does not want to give up the LHN. Texas does not do business by going backwards, not going to give up it's own TV network and 15 million a year: it's not their fault that they can get it, and the others could not. Whole lot of pride and jealousy surrounding these issues which equals a lot of butthurt.

Texas would not mind rolling the network into a conference network, but only if the added teams really bring the excitement and multiple benefits. And that aint happening.

 

[Texas Jefe]

It's even dumber than that as we know right now the Big 12 has a 50% shot with one loss most years and there is no other way to quantify any other numbers. If the Big 12 expanded it could be argued that OU's chances of making the playoffs actually decrease. It's just not a viable argument.

Indeed- these numbers have been pulled out of thin air by folks with a plan. And for the plan to happen, enough schools have to jump on board this train. Boren is at the controls, but it's really being driven by someone else.

Plus, this group seems to think networks are still willing to throw huge sums of money at this, but espins is no longer in the position to burn money. Those days have passed. Of course, Fox is now burning the bucks, maybe they're behind all this...

 

[Deep Creek]

Why?

Last time I checked, Notre Dame isn't exactly going broke . . .

No kidding. I believe they are 1 of the 30 that are truly operating in the black.

 

[starbigd]

Why?

Last time I checked, Notre Dame isn't exactly going broke . . .

The money they make now is PEANUTS compared to what they would in the B1G.

Seriously, if you don't get that, I don't know what to tell you.

 

[Deep Creek]

The money they make now is PEANUTS compared to what they would in the B1G.

Seriously, if you don't get that, I don't know what to tell you.

I get it. I'm just tired of college athletics being driven by NOTHING BUT MONEY! Might as well be the pro sports.

 

[Wild Turkey]

No kidding. I believe they are 1 of the 30 that are truly operating in the black.

Fill your athletic department with monks that have taken a vow poverty, don't do kickbacks and are incredibly frugal and those dimes streatch into dollars quickly.

 

[Justin Tyme]

those dimes streatch into dollars quickly.

Seems to me I have seen or heard this or something similar to it!

 

[HammerDown]

 

[Goldbug]

I have a progressive idea....at least so far as Oklahoma is concerned. If we stop screwing the pooch this year and can beat Houston to start off the season and then follow up with a win against Ohio State and we can somehow avoid letting Texas bend us over and drive us off again in the RRSO, then maybe we can win out against everyone else. If that happens we could be in the Big 8 Conference and make the CFP. Winning solves everything. Adding more teams to the conference is just background noise if the conference champion hasn't taken care of ALL it's business.

 

[Deep Creek]

It was tOSU's performance in the 13th game that kept Baylor/TCU out so Briles is only partially correct. Had both tOSU and Wisky play shitty or tOSU won ugly, Baylor or TCU may well have gotten in.