B12 expansion

[ralphiewvu]

I'll pick you up on the way it may take a while to crank up my car tho

Count me in ole yeller

 

[GoldRusher]

Count me in ole yeller

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[ralphiewvu]

 

[Deep Creek]

okay, according to Wikipedia, which is probably dated (but wont matter for those who left the conference)

Nebraska 80
A&m 61
Colorado 31
Missouri 13

Misery just never has won very much in any sport from what I can recall.

 

[Deep Creek]

Truthfully my feeling is the B12 will do one of two things:

1) Gobble teams up from an existing P5 along with the other P5's to get 4/ 16 team mega conferences

OR

2) Get gobbled up by the rest of the P5 conferences with some of the teams getting left out in the cold thus getting to 4/ 16 team mega conferences

Just my

#2 will happen IMHO. Wake Forest, Rutgers, Vandy, Colorado > TTech, Iowa State, Baylor, TCU, & K-State will be left out. Texas, OU, Okie Lite, Kansas and WVU will have a home...which is hysterical because Kansas is the worst P5 team in the nation.

 

[TheRobotDevil]

I just packed the hookers and coke in the trunk Maybe I should have packed them separate

 

[Olyduck]

The SEC invented them.

False DII Pennsylvania State Athletic Conference and Central Intercollegiate Athletic Association invented them. SEC was the first to implement them.

 

[Wild Turkey]

The only expansion that makes sense is the PAC raiding the Big 12. If the big 12 expands by adding crappy teams just to do it the brand will be diluted. The hood teams are having a tough enough time putting together a decent schedule. If Baylor tanks (which with their issues is a solid possibility) the conference is in danger of becoming irrelevant.

 

[nddulac]

False DII Pennsylvania State Athletic Conference and Central Intercollegiate Athletic Association invented them. SEC was the first to implement them.

Well son of a bitch. Who knew?

 

[Innermind]

In the meantime....... a few hours ago.....

......per FOX Sports' Tim Brando.....

.....Notre Dame is supposedly contemplating the idea of either full ACC membership or full B1G membership... whichever brings them more money.

FOX Sports’ Tim Brando Thinks Conference Realignment Could Be On The Horizon, Notre Dame A Key Piece






With NBC/Comcast currently in negotiations with the B1G..... the possibility of re-structuring the NBC-Notre Dame deal with full B1G membership sounds intriguing, and might be much more $$$ than the upcoming ACC-ESPN potential network deal.

 

[starbigd]

Misery just never has won very much in any sport from what I can recall.

Missouri was DEAD LAST in total conference titles won in the B12. They never won anything in any sport, ALL TIME.

 

[UVA_Guy81]

In the meantime....... a few hours ago.....

......per FOX Sports' Tim Brando.....

.....Notre Dame is supposedly contemplating the idea of either full ACC membership or full B1G membership... whichever brings them more money.

FOX Sports’ Tim Brando Thinks Conference Realignment Could Be On The Horizon, Notre Dame A Key Piece






With NBC/Comcast currently in negotiations with the B1G..... the possibility of re-structuring the NBC-Notre Dame deal with full B1G membership sounds intriguing, and might be much more $$$ than the upcoming ACC-ESPN potential network deal.

Maybe the ACC can convince Notre Dame to join for football as well and then try to convince Texas to join and have the Longhorn Network become the ACC Network?

North - BC, Pitt, Syracuse, Notre Dame, UVA, Louisville, VT, NC St
South - UNC, Duke, Wake Forest, Clemson, Georgia Tech, Texas, Florida St, Miami

Or if they did the 4 pod system:

1 - BC, Pitt, Syracuse, Notre Dame
2 - UVA, Louisville, VT, NC St
3 - UNC, Duke, Clemson, Wake Forest
4 - Texas, Florida St, Miami, Georgia Tech

 

[ralphiewvu]

I just packed the hookers and coke in the trunk Maybe I should have packed them separate

Well sonofabich......

 

[Lance Armstrong]

In the meantime....... a few hours ago.....

......per FOX Sports' Tim Brando.....

.....Notre Dame is supposedly contemplating the idea of either full ACC membership or full B1G membership... whichever brings them more money.

FOX Sports’ Tim Brando Thinks Conference Realignment Could Be On The Horizon, Notre Dame A Key Piece






With NBC/Comcast currently in negotiations with the B1G..... the possibility of re-structuring the NBC-Notre Dame deal with full B1G membership sounds intriguing, and might be much more $$$ than the upcoming ACC-ESPN potential network deal.

So Big Ten it is, the ACC is last in $$$$ and that includes already selling their Tier 3 rights to ESPN.

 

[starbigd]

In the meantime....... a few hours ago.....

......per FOX Sports' Tim Brando.....

.....Notre Dame is supposedly contemplating the idea of either full ACC membership or full B1G membership... whichever brings them more money.

FOX Sports’ Tim Brando Thinks Conference Realignment Could Be On The Horizon, Notre Dame A Key Piece






With NBC/Comcast currently in negotiations with the B1G..... the possibility of re-structuring the NBC-Notre Dame deal with full B1G membership sounds intriguing, and might be much more $$$ than the upcoming ACC-ESPN potential network deal.

Frankly, I think ND belongs in the B1G......it'd be better for football than the ACC. And yes, the money would be LUDICROUS.

They need to get over their butthurt of not being invited in how many decades ago it was. Membership has it's privileges and at this point I think they need conference affiliation.

 

[Wild Turkey]

ND has a sweetheart deal with the ACC and NBC so I don't see them changing. They have been in a national championship game in the last 5 years and were close to a playoff birth this year.

Although the B1G is proving to be an easier path to the NCG then the ACC so that might be factoring but ND isn't going to have to play Clemson and FSU every year.

 

[oaknightshockey1]

ND has a sweetheart deal with the ACC and NBC so I don't see them changing. They have been in a national championship game in the last 5 years and were close to a playoff birth this year.

Although the B1G is proving to be an easier path to the NCG then the ACC so that might be factoring but ND isn't going to have to play Clemson and FSU every year.

What does ND get from the ACC? I believe they get $15M from NBC, which is less than the tier 1 rights in the B1G with the new deal.

Edit: They get nothing from football:

The Irish will keep all the money it makes from its independent television deal with NBC while the ACC will keep all football-related money generated by its contract with ESPN/ABC. That comes to about 80 percent of the league’s total television revenue. As an equal partner in all other sports, Notre Dame will get the same split of the rest of the money as everyone else in the league – or 1/15th of 20 percent.

Answering some FAQs about ACC’s addition of Notre Dame |

 

[Wild Turkey]

What does ND get from the ACC? I believe they get $15M from NBC, which is less than the tier 1 rights in the B1G with the new deal.

Edit: They get nothing from football:



Answering some FAQs about ACC’s addition of Notre Dame |

They get to do whatever they want and also get conference play for all their other sports. The ACC relationship was all about finding a home for it's non-football sports (which is incredible hard to schedule as an independent), keeping the football independent and playing in a region that the school recruits a majority of it's STUDENTS.

ND absolutely does not want to give up games like Stanford and Navy which would become difficult to keep if they went into a conference.

What the ACC offers is autonomy for the football program.

 

[oaknightshockey1]

They get to do whatever they want and also get conference play for all their other sports. The ACC relationship was all about finding a home for it's non-football sports (which is incredible hard to schedule as an independent), keeping the football independent and playing in a region that the school recruits a majority of it's STUDENTS.

ND absolutely does not want to give up games like Stanford and Navy which would become difficult to keep if they went into a conference.

What the ACC offers is autonomy for the football program.

They could keep Stanford and Navy if they went to the B1G, FSU and Florida play every year and Navy could easily be another non-conference game. They'd also restart some older rivalries like Michigan, Purdue, etc. and make a ton more money in the process. The B1G could provide a home for ALL their other sports as well (no hockey in the ACC). It's a natural fit, and should have happened years ago. I think the money wins out on this one.

 

[Codaxx]

They get to do whatever they want and also get conference play for all their other sports. The ACC relationship was all about finding a home for it's non-football sports (which is incredible hard to schedule as an independent), keeping the football independent and playing in a region that the school recruits a majority of it's STUDENTS.

ND absolutely does not want to give up games like Stanford and Navy which would become difficult to keep if they went into a conference.

What the ACC offers is autonomy for the football program.

I find that so stupid. One day ADs will realize that non-revenue sports do not need to be part off revenue spor conferences. Just set up regional conferences for smaller sports. The 2 have basically become different animals.