Mostly agree. Fitzgerald a damn good coach and could see him keeping it close. Well, maybe not that close but not a blowout.
Yep. Indiana.
Ironic for the man to cry "poor reading comp" when I've never actually made the case that Penn State should've gotten into the 2016 CFP, as that is a completely different topic. The point of 2016 is that it's an actual historical, objective fact in this issue. You believe that in the case of a 5-0 Rutgers vs a 5-1 Ohio State, that the B1G would've made the same decision to change the rules. This gets rightly called out for dishonesty as the real reason the B1G changed the rule was to help OSU's resume of getting into the Playoffs. It was what everyone was talking about on all platforms the second Michigan canceled "The Game", so the B1G made that decision.
This counter is also irrelevant and rendered null & void due to the fact that the committee would respect a conference championship more. There's no questioning OSU not being the conference champion would naturally hold them back from A&M or Florida taking there spot. Seriously, Alabama loses the CCG and it's potentially done for Ohio State's season (Alabama is not dropping back 4 spots, they're certified in)
Irony as this statement can be shot back at you. You don't really understand the claim I am making, as what you claim to be is simply inaccurate. At this point you're arguing to a different person, not me.
The Committee values conference championships even in a year like this my friend. The second part of your statement once again is simply irrelevant. Playing against Iowa or Wisconsin (latter of which, in a down year) will not look more appeasing than a SEC, ACC, or a Big 12 title. That's just honesty, you not getting it does not mean that I am the one with "poor reading comp"
It's not irony I point out your poor reading comp., though I guess to be fair you could also just have a very short memory.
In order of your irrational again.....
No that was the year where they valued Ohio State more than another team, even if they were the conference champion. Which debunks the notion that the B1G would've made the same change for hypothetical Rutgers like they did for Ohio State, as the committee would value a 1 loss OSU team over a 5-0 Rutgers team.
Lmao, I just love it when I see the same Ohio State fans pull this, this is a combination of 2014 & 2016 where Ohio State got in and yet not a complaint from you. 2016, a team that doesn't even win their own division gets in and gets bullied because shocker, they were a weaker team. Next year they complain that a team that doesn't win their division gets to be in the fourth seed (massive lol, no self-awareness) which soon goes on to win the national championship. Remember the last time a fourth seed did that? Oh yes, Ohio State. I mean fuck the Big 12 anyway amirite?
Like I said to the other Buckeye fan, they are different institutions that they are connected here.
2016 as explained multiple times already. Present day is yet another factual as a 5-1 OSU team is more likely to be in the Top 4 than a 5-0 Rutgers.
Are you a new watcher to Seinfeld by any chance? Did you just see that episode and maybe, just maybe, didn't really get that joke?
You would have to provide evidence of this of how beating a 2 win Wisky, Iowa, or NW would be superior than a victory over Alabama and Oklahoma.
Fuck-ing-lol.
l.m.a.o
You're actually becoming more shitty with the counters by the typed word. Beating NW rather beating Iowa does help them more because now they have a conference championship rather than they don't
No it's irony, but thank you for playing the game.
Yes or no question: Does a CCG help with a team's resume?
Something you have plenty of experience as.
That team later won the championship as a fourth seed, meaning the committee was accurate then. If they weren't you should put a asterisk on your only CFP title as well. Quit derailing the issue because you don't understand counterarguments.
I don't need your confirmation to know something I did, as frankly, your word means as much as cat manure at this point.
Considering your shit countering and an even shittier lack of self-awareness, once again, your take means as much as cat manure. Come back at me with a proper counter but this team read the argument instead of making yourself look like a dickwad.
The Committee always tries to look at the teams objectively when it comes to resume, this being a Covid year is frankly irrelevant. Now, whether I agree with their false objectivity is an entirely different issue, they still look at teams as objective as they can.
Holy Irrational Batman. Too lo long to go through when in all your drivel all you really mean to say is "dt I do not like Ohio State and have an anti-OSU bias against them. As an irrational person I will ignore all logic, facts and reason to refute my own logic/opinions."No that was the year where they valued Ohio State more than another team, even if they were the conference champion. Which debunks the notion that the B1G would've made the same change for hypothetical Rutgers like they did for Ohio State, as the committee would value a 1 loss OSU team over a 5-0 Rutgers team.
But yes, I have "poor reading comp" keep up my friend.
Lmao, I just love it when I see the same Ohio State fans pull this, this is a combination of 2014 & 2016 where Ohio State got in and yet not a complaint from you. 2016, a team that doesn't even win their own division gets in and gets bullied because shocker, they were a weaker team. Next year they complain that a team that doesn't win their division gets to be in the fourth seed (massive lol, no self-awareness) which soon goes on to win the national championship. Remember the last time a fourth seed did that? Oh yes, Ohio State. I mean fuck the Big 12 anyway amirite?
The complaints you and other examples from this fanbase have truly show a great lack of self-awareness, as you benefitted twice from those complaints. I repeat, twice.
But this topic is largely irrelevant to the discussion and just shows that you prefer a derailment of the actual conversation. Moving on.
Like I said to the other Buckeye fan, they are different institutions that they are connected here.
Do you know what connecting two ideas are?
Ok I'll explain in simple terms like I showed the other fan.
OSU becomes conference champ = Very much likely to get into the CFP = more money, recruiting, and recognition
OSU doesn't become conference champs = Not as likely to get into the CFP = less money, recruiting, and recognition
Rutgers or Indiana being 6-0 = Would not be in the Top 4 regardless
If you're the B1G, what would you choose to be better for your conference.
That's the issue, B1G made a move that benefitted them only. I don't have an issue with the CFP other than they have tiers with favoritism which is clearly another topic. Keep up mr. "poor reading comp"
2016 as explained multiple times already. Present day is yet another factual as a 5-1 OSU team is more likely to be in the Top 4 than a 5-0 Rutgers.
My whole point is that they did give their team with the best shot at the CFP an added boost, at the result of their characters being looked at with more shame. Never say I have "poor reading comp" ever lmao.
Are you a new watcher to Seinfeld by any chance? Did you just see that episode and maybe, just maybe, didn't really get that joke?
You would have to provide evidence of this of how beating a 2 win Wisky, Iowa, or NW would be superior than a victory over Alabama and Oklahoma.
Fuck-ing-lol.
Yes the team that doesn't start out ranked will have a better chance at the playoffs than Alabama, Notre Dame, Clemson, Texas A&M, Florida, Iowa State, Cincinnati, hell you can even throw in there Miami, Georgia, and Oklahoma in there simply because they have that 1 "great win" despite that team also not playing OOC games, meaning there goes the only basis of comparison of that team to the others I just mentioned.
Blind fanaticism at it's best. You're really willing to die on the "B1G would've changed this rule for Rutgers as well for a shot at the CFP!" hill, eh?
l.m.a.o
yes it's an agenda to realize that a 5-0 Rutgers modern-day speaking would only put them Top 15 or Top 20 at best. Victories against 3 poor teams, 1 good team, and 1 great team (assuming it was a one score differential though) yeah, we've seen this before buddy, Rutgers would still not be in the Top 4 or Top 8 lmao.
You're actually becoming more shitty with the counters by the typed word. Beating NW rather beating Iowa does help them more because now they have a conference championship rather than they don't
And beating Iowa isn't worth more than beating a ranked opponent in the Top 10ish in the conference championship
Meaning the CFP will more likely choose some other team than Ohio State
You're understanding why the Big Ten made the choice they did or are you still being willfully ignorant and need an even dumber down version than this?
*yes
I’m 35. What you? 16?
Pretty funny how you're only response to an ass-whooping I gave you was "herr-derr u have anti-OSU bias there4 u ignor all logik" k bud here's be response to that: You have a Pro-OSU bias, meaning you're incapable of ever understanding an argument that doesn't paint them like angels and are also incapable of forming a counter-argument, so you'll just resort to petty insults as a backup.
Then what are you even arguing against you imbecile.
Yes, you do have plenty of experience. Imagine complaining non-champs get in while you, a non-champ got in, only to make the B1G look like an absolute embarrassment. The only time OSU failed to get in against a non champ was 2017 Alabama, who soon won the Title as a fourth seed. Let me guess, you'd also justify Ohio State jumping TCU back in 2014, coincidentally the only time you won the CFP?
How is it false?
Wouldn't expect you to know deflection at this point.
Them playing that weekend is irrelevant as if they aren't playing in the CCG game then the game is just another regular game and would get rightfully downplayed against other teams.
Yes, my Steelers, lmao. Do I want a free AFC Championship now? Not going to lie, kinda would, but my team needs to work for that place.
No as we're only playing conference games meaning Indiana has a better conference record than Ohio State, and there is no rules that could be changed at that point to help Ohio State without evidence of blatant corruption. B1G saw an opportunity this year and took it.
Could care less if it's rhetorical, as me not sucking up for program does not mean I have an agenda against them.
And that should somehow change my mind that you don't have a Pro-OSU agenda? Sorry, you do. When you don't complain about 2014 & 2016 but then complain 2017 & 2018, then once again acting like Ohio State should have a legit shot at CFP this year in 2020, the. you have a Pro-OSU agenda.
Lol.
Obviously smarter than you Blownuts. Enjoy your golden years.
Yeah...as I said I don't make my comments as an OSU homer. I think we are one of the best 4 and deserve a shot at 6-0, but they could certainly make the case not to take OSU for some of the reasons you mentioned. Especially if UF pulls off the upset.
