All things offseason

[poewelch84]

Anthony Davis 'badly out of shape', according to Giants beat writer

I clicked on this think and then they had a link for 7 49ers draft grades and hell even I with the B- to C+ type grade is cutting Baalke slack I guess I'll need to be even tougher on him.

 

[purguy12]

Gabbert regressed as the season went on last year. Hopefully Kelly can get something more out of him. I am sure either Gabbert or Kap would play better with a clean pocket and great pass blocking like the team had back in 2011 and 2012 but I don't think they will have that.

I agree 100%. Once teams got a lot of tape on him in the 49ers system he was bad. The team regressed last year and that is 1 thing u dont want to see from a young team. Shows how bad the staff was. That is why I think we will be better this year because we have Chip Kelly and a real DC.

With Gabbert as your starter teams D knows he isnt a threat to go deep. They can stack with in 10-15 yards. With Kap u have to worry about him running and throwing deep. That is why I think he wins the job unless he just looks lost in Chips offense.

 

[purguy12]

I clicked on this think and then they had a link for 7 49ers draft grades and hell even I with the B- to C+ type grade is cutting Baalke slack I guess I'll need to be even tougher on him.

Like I said I think 49ers graded an A on day 1 but after that it went down hill.

 

[poewelch84]

Like I said I think 49ers graded an A on day 1 but after that it went down hill.

Well I liked the first round I was a little irritated that they gave up as much as they did to move up into the first but I could live with that. It was from day 2 on that left me scratching my head.

 

[Pattersonca65]

I agree 100%. Once teams got a lot of tape on him in the 49ers system he was bad. The team regressed last year and that is 1 thing u dont want to see from a young team. Shows how bad the staff was. That is why I think we will be better this year because we have Chip Kelly and a real DC.

With Gabbert as your starter teams D knows he isnt a threat to go deep. They can stack with in 10-15 yards. With Kap u have to worry about him running and throwing deep. That is why I think he wins the job unless he just looks lost in Chips offense.

Gabbert started getting jittery in the pocket and checking down too much when he didn't have to. There were times we may have needed 8 yards for a first down, he throws it 5 yards, gets tackled, and its punt. 3rd down conversion success became a huge problem.

 

[Pattersonca65]

I clicked on this think and then they had a link for 7 49ers draft grades and hell even I with the B- to C+ type grade is cutting Baalke slack I guess I'll need to be even tougher on him.

I like the first two picks but don't quite understand drafting so many corners afterwards. This team currently has a bunch of young corners on the roster and the team can't keep them all. I would have taken a chance on a QB like Hackenberg.

 

[purguy12]

Well I liked the first round I was a little irritated that they gave up as much as they did to move up into the first but I could live with that. It was from day 2 on that left me scratching my head.

I agree with you. We are on the same boat. I think Day 1 was great. Both will start right away. I been a BIG fan of Buckner and feel he will be a steal at #7. On my Board I had him at #2 overall player. The kid is special.

 

[deep9er]

I didn't say you thought their would be vast improvement I merely stated I didn't expect it. Don't be so sensitive.

I'm not being sensitive, YOU wrote those words.

From my view, you're being extreme by using words like 'vast'.

 

[deep9er]

Anthony Davis 'badly out of shape', according to Giants beat writer

from the 'very beginning', my opinion was don't factor him into the equation. This isn't saying i never wanted him back, but the off season plans shouldn't include Davis.

 

[Niner Outlaw]

I would have taken a chance on a QB like Hackenberg.

You'd rather have drafted Hackenberg at 37? I couldn't disagree more. Not only a poor fit in Kelly's system (see his years under Franklin), but he never really put together a good, let alone great, college season.

 

[deep9er]

I like the first two picks but don't quite understand drafting so many corners afterwards. This team currently has a bunch of young corners on the roster and the team can't keep them all. I would have taken a chance on a QB like Hackenberg.

As is always the case, it'll come down to who pans out, and to what extent they pan out? Should these CB's pan out, then it'll be worth it.

I now get the NB (Redmond) pick better, but yet another CB (Robinson) is hard to accept? Like you it is the position (CB) that i'm commenting on, not the specific players.

 

[Niner Outlaw]

Anthony Davis 'badly out of shape', according to Giants beat writer

So far, nothing we've seen from Davis says he's dying to play football again. Until he bothers to file for reinstatement, "he's retired". After he quit on the team last offseason, it's been pretty clear that the team isn't counting on him to return.

 

[deep9er]

You'd rather have drafted Hackenberg at 37? I couldn't disagree more. Not only a poor fit in Kelly's system (see his years under Franklin), but he never really put together a good, let alone great, college season.

I felt Prescott end of the 4th, was better value. Or even Ken Dixon if not Prescott, over Rashard Robinson.

Speaking of Robinson, how can a 171 lb corner be good at press coverage? I'd think some of these bigger receivers will easily run past him?

 

[deep9er]

So far, nothing we've seen from Davis says he's dying to play football again. Until he bothers to file for reinstatement, "he's retired". After he quit on the team last offseason, it's been pretty clear that the team isn't counting on him to return.

yep

 

[Niner Outlaw]

I felt Prescott end of the 4th, was better value. Or even Ken Dixon if not Prescott, over Rashard Robinson.

Speaking of Robinson, how can a 171 lb corner be good at press coverage? I'd think some of these bigger receivers will easily run past him?

I too would've gone with Dixon. For that matter, I'd have gone with Calhoun in Rd 3. As to the QB, by draft time, it looked pretty clear that we were gonna keep Kap (for one year) and Baalke apparently wants to see more of Gabbert, so there was no need to take an early rd QB unless we envisioned him starting in 2 years. If we're looking for an athletic project, Driskell has all the tools we'd look for.

As for Robinson? His length and hips are what got him drafted. Hopefully the training staff will spend the next 18 months force-feeding him. He'll need to add 25 pounds unless he wants to get buried by a 210 pound WR.

 

[Pattersonca65]

So far, nothing we've seen from Davis says he's dying to play football again. Until he bothers to file for reinstatement, "he's retired". After he quit on the team last offseason, it's been pretty clear that the team isn't counting on him to return.

yea, after his dumb tweets and not filing I am done with him

 

[Pattersonca65]

You'd rather have drafted Hackenberg at 37? I couldn't disagree more. Not only a poor fit in Kelly's system (see his years under Franklin), but he never really put together a good, let alone great, college season.

Not necessarily Hackenberg, but a QB in the 3rd or 4th.

 

[poewelch84]

I'm not being sensitive, YOU wrote those words.

From my view, you're being extreme by using words like 'vast'.

Once again don't be so sensitive. I stated that I'm the one that used the word "VAST" not you. Also to me 8-8 would be a VAST improvement over what we saw last year and I don't see that happening. So perhaps you and I view VAST a little differently, as you and I view most things differently.

 

[purguy12]

What happen to Adams?

 

[deep9er]

Once again don't be so sensitive. I stated that I'm the one that used the word "VAST" not you. Also to me 8-8 would be a VAST improvement over what we saw last year and I don't see that happening. So perhaps you and I view VAST a little differently, as you and I view most things differently.

haaa, ok