Alabama has played UT-Chattanooga 3 times since 2008

[4down20]

Your Twister board doesn't address the topic.Still nothing to do with the effects of a 9 game conference schedule on a conference. Conference losses, SOS based on those losses....... Anyone can use data to deflect or skew a topic. But the simple math speaks volumes

 

[TheRobotDevil]

So what you're saying is the reason the SEC cant play a 9 game conference schedule.Is displayed in this chart you provided

I don't think you understand the concept. Of cause and effect.And what that means in terms of conference losses.Which would be a product of going to a 9 game conference schedule.And reducing the weak OOC schedules

 

[4down20]

So what you're saying is the reason the SEC cant play a 9 game conference schedule.Is displayed in this chart you provided

I don't think you understand the concept. Of cause and effect.And what that means in terms of conference losses.Which would be a product of going to a 9 game conference schedule.And reducing the weak OOC schedules

When I start hearing about how the MWC is going to become a P5 conference because they play X amount of conference games a year, I'll consider it an important factor towards schedule strength.

But in the real college football world, that chart I provided is what people actually care about. And that's why Alabama has went to every playoff we've had so far and won 3 other BCS Championships in the previous years.

Until then, keep sucking dick for Heroin.

 

[TheRobotDevil]

When I start hearing about how the MWC is going to become a P5 conference because they play X amount of conference games a year, I'll consider it an important factor towards schedule strength.

But in the real college football world, that chart I provided is what people actually care about. And that's why Alabama has went to every playoff we've had so far and won 3 other BCS Championships in the previous years.

Until then, keep sucking dick for Heroin.

Uh Oh someones crying and butthurt Thats how it works right? You cant dispute the facts deflect........

I can break it down one more time for you

9 game conference schedule = More Losses per conference due to redistribution easy wins being replaced by said losses

More losses per conference = lower SOS in conference

Which in turn effects Conference standings,Over all rankings and creates a higher level of competition to compensate. With 3 OOC games to work wit


This is really not difficult

 

[Rolltide94]

It has a lot to do with it. Try being in a conference that has 3 OOC games. It makes scheduling tight as fvk. USC lost a bye week because of it and Stanford had to take their by week in the second week of the season last year. Both those schools don't want to miss out on playing ND every year so they pay a price for it. They don't complain about it because they know playing ND is a money maker so they take the bad with the good.

One of the bad being playing Notre Dame and pretending they are good.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

One of the bad being playing Notre Dame and pretending they are good.

ND has its up years and its down years. Those games between ND and Stanford & USC are home & aways.

 

[Rolltide94]

ND has its up years and its down years. Those games between ND and Stanford & USC are home & aways.

Meh...We played the best team Notre Dame has had in a generation...I don't recall it being much of a contest. I guess it all depends on your expectations.

Now, if you want to talk Notre Dame back in the day, that's a different story, but the 60's and 70's...hell the 80's were a long time ago.

 

[4down20]

More losses per conference = lower SOS in conference

No, it doesn't in the SoS chart I posted. And that is made obvious in the fact that the Big10 doesn't suck ass like the Pac12.

It only does in the most simplistic of SoS formulas that nobody really uses and even then it accounts for 4% of that formula max.

Of course, here now you'll go back to being stupid and claim everyone else is deflecting.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

No, it doesn't in the SoS chart I posted. And that is made obvious in the fact that the Big10 doesn't suck ass like the Pac12.

It only does in the most simplistic of SoS formulas that nobody really uses and even then it accounts for 4% of that formula max.

Of course, here now you'll go back to being stupid and claim everyone else is deflecting.

So that's why the SEC & ACC lack the testicles to play their own conference members?

 

[4down20]

So that's why the SEC & ACC lack the testicles to play their own conference members?

Are you so worried about Alabama playing other SEC teams because the Pac12 was routed by a diffrence of 76-13 last year?

Need the SEC to do what the Pac12 couldn't?

 

[AlaskaGuy]

Are you so worried about Alabama playing other SEC teams because the Pac12 was routed by a diffrence of 76-13 last year?

Need the SEC to do what the Pac12 couldn't?

It's been posted ad nauseum on here as to why the SEC & ACC avoid playing their own conference members.

 

[TheRobotDevil]

No, it doesn't in the SoS chart I posted. And that is made obvious in the fact that the Big10 doesn't suck ass like the Pac12.

It only does in the most simplistic of SoS formulas that nobody really uses and even then it accounts for 4% of that formula max.

Of course, here now you'll go back to being stupid and claim everyone else is deflecting.

Get back to me when you adjust that "chart" After you're done subtracting the extra easy OOC wins from the conference. And readistribute the SEC win loss ratios to fit a 9 game conference schedule. Then you're "data" will reflect the topic. Rather than dancing around the actual subject matter

 

[TheRobotDevil]

It's been posted ad nauseum on here as to why the SEC & ACC avoid playing their own conference members.

It's like trying to teach someone 1+1 does not equal 4

 

[Camfantasy]

Lot of excuses for the pac12 being garbage every year. Y'all are going to have to grow up and assume responsibility for your shit football one day.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

Lot of excuses for the pac12 being garbage every year. Y'all are going to have to grow up and assume responsibility for your shit football one day.

Washington would pound VT like a hot runaway teen at a Howard Johnsons.

 

[Camfantasy]

Washington would pound VT like a hot runaway teen at a Howard Johnsons.

You mean that Mike leech team?

 

[4down20]

Get back to me when you adjust that "chart" After you're done subtracting the extra easy OOC wins from the conference. And readistribute the SEC win loss ratios to fit a 9 game conference schedule. Then you're "data" will reflect the topic. Rather than dancing around the actual subject matter

Ok, here the chart is adjusted exactly as you asked for.

Oh yeah, it already doesn't give basically any credit to easy OOC games. The part that's fucking with you is - it also doesn't give much credit to easy in conference games either. And unfortunetly for the Pac12, that makes up the vast majority of the schedule.

So what you really want is to be shown a chart that pretends all P5 teams are the same and then just counts them up like it means something. Because that's the only way you can hide the weakness of the Pac12.

 

[TheRobotDevil]

Ok, here the chart is adjusted exactly as you asked for.

Oh yeah, it already doesn't give basically any credit to easy OOC games. The part that's fucking with you is - it also doesn't give much credit to easy in conference games either. And unfortunetly for the Pac12, that makes up the vast majority of the schedule.

So what you really want is to be shown a chart that pretends all P5 teams are the same and then just counts them up like it means something. Because that's the only way you can hide the weakness of the Pac12.

Is it based on a 9 game conference schedule where you included all the combinations of potential losses? Or did you just subtract an FCS win. Since you haven't seemed to understand impact that extra conference loss has on the over all picture.I think you may need another chart that reflects exactly what it would look like with a 9 game conference schedule.I'll wait while you do that

 

[trojanfight]

All games since 2010:

Arizona 31 Grambling St 21
Arizona St 35 Cal Poly 21
Cal 50 Southern Utah 31
Cal 37 Portland St 30
Colorado 38 Central Arkansas 24
Colorado 28 Sacramento St 30
Oregon St 28 Sacramento St 29
Oregon St 46 Eastern Washington 49
Oregon St 29 Portland St 14
Washington St 17 Portland St 24
Washington St 24 Eastern Washington 20
Washington St 23 Montana St 22

4 losses and 3 wins by a touchdown or less

Holy Shit...No wonder you guys want to play a 9 game schedule against each other...the bottom half of your league can hardly keep it together against FCS teams...not to mention their shittier performance against G5 opponents.

same washington st that went on the road at auburn and played them to a 7 point loss. fun fact auburn did not return favor and play in pullman? shocker right..oh i think that same auburn team went on to play in national championship.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

Ok, here the chart is adjusted exactly as you asked for.

Oh yeah, it already doesn't give basically any credit to easy OOC games. The part that's fucking with you is - it also doesn't give much credit to easy in conference games either. And unfortunetly for the Pac12, that makes up the vast majority of the schedule.

So what you really want is to be shown a chart that pretends all P5 teams are the same and then just counts them up like it means something. Because that's the only way you can hide the weakness of the Pac12.

And here are FACTS:

2016 P5 opponents by team and conference

ACC Atlantic
BC - 8 conference games = 8 P5
Clemson - 8 conference games + Auburn, SCAR = 10 P5
FSU - 8 conference games + Ole Miss, UF = 10 P5
Louisville - 8 conference games + Kentucky = 9 P5
NC State - 8 conference games + ND = 9 P5
Syracuse - 8 conference games + ND = 9 P5
WF - 8 conference games + Indiana = 9 P5

ACC Coastal
Duke - 8 conference games + Northwestern, ND = 10 P5
GT - 8 conference games + Vandy, UGA = 10 P5
Miami - 8 conference games + ND = 9 P5
North Carolina - 8 conference games + UGA, Illinois = 10 P5
Pitt - 8 conference games + Penn St., Okie St. = 10 P5
UVA - 8 conference games + Oregon = 9 P5
VT - 8 conference games + Tennessee, ND = 10 P5

Total: 132 / 14 = 9.428 P5


B1G East
Indiana - 9 conference games + WF = 10 P5
Maryland - 9 conference games = 9 P5
Michigan - 9 conference games + Colorado = 10 P5
MSU - 9 conference games + ND, BYU = 11 P5
Ohio St. - 9 conference games + Oklahoma = 10 P5
Penn St. - 9 conference games + Pitt = 10 P5
Rutgers - 9 conference games + Washington = 10 P5

B1G West
Illinois - 9 conference games + North Carolina = 10 P5
Iowa - 9 conference games + Iowa St. = 10 P5
Minnesota - 9 conference games + Oregon St. = 10 P5
Nebraska - 9 conference games + Oregon = 10 P5
Northwestern - 9 conference games + Duke = 10 P5
Purdue - 9 conference games = 9 P5
Wisconsin - 9 conference games + LSU = 10 P5

Total: 139 / 14 = 9.928 P5


Big 12
Baylor - 9 conference games = 9 P5
Iowa St. - 9 conference games + Iowa = 10 P5
Kansas - 9 conference games = 9 P5
Kansas St. - 9 conference games + Stanford = 10 P5
Oklahoma - 9 conference games + Ohio St. = 10 P5
Oklahoma St. - 9 conference games + Pitt = 10 P5
TCU - 9 conference games + Arkansas = 10 P5
Texas - 9 conference games + ND, Cal = 11 P5
TT - 9 conference games + Arizona St. = 10 P5
WVU - 9 conference games + Missouri, BYU = 11 P5

Total: 100 / 10 = 10 P5


PAC North
Cal - 9 conference games + Texas = 10 P5
Stanford - 9 conference games + Kansas St., ND = 11 P5
Oregon - 9 conference games + Virginia, Nebraska = 11 P5
Oregon St. - 9 conference games + Minny = 10 P5
Washington - 9 conference games + Rutgers = 10 P5
Washington St. - 9 conference games = 9 P5

PAC South
Arizona - 9 conference games + BYU = 10 P5
Arizona St. - 9 conference games + TT = 10 P5
Colorado - 9 conference games + Michigan = 10 P5
Utah - 9 conference games + BYU = 10 P5
UCLA - 9 conference games + TAMU, BYU = 11 P5
USC - 9 conference games + Alabama, ND = 11 P5

Total: 123 / 12 = 10.25 P5


SEC East
UF - 8 conference games + FSU = 9 P5
UGA - 8 conference games + North Carolina, GT = 10 P5
UK - 8 conference games + Louisville = 9 P5
Mizzou - 8 conference games + WVU = 9 P5
SCAR - 8 conference games + Clemson = 9 P5
UT - 8 conference games + VT = 9 P5
Vandy - 8 conference games + GT = 9 P5

SEC West
Alabama - 8 conference games + USC = 9 P5
Arkansas - 8 conference games + TCU = 9 P5
Auburn - 8 conference games + Clemson = 9 P5
LSU - 8 conference games + Wiscy = 9 P5
Miss. St. - 8 conference games + BYU = 9 P5
Ole Miss - 8 conference games + FSU = 9 P5
TAMU - 8 conference games + UCLA = 9 P5

Total: 127 / 14 = 9.071 P5

SEC will consider Notre Dame, BYU and Army as Power Five opponents