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And here are FACTS:

2016 P5 opponents by team and conference

ACC Atlantic
BC - 8 conference games = 8 P5
Clemson - 8 conference games + Auburn, SCAR = 10 P5
FSU - 8 conference games + Ole Miss, UF = 10 P5
Louisville - 8 conference games + Kentucky = 9 P5
NC State - 8 conference games + ND = 9 P5
Syracuse - 8 conference games + ND = 9 P5
WF - 8 conference games + Indiana = 9 P5

ACC Coastal
Duke - 8 conference games + Northwestern, ND = 10 P5
GT - 8 conference games + Vandy, UGA = 10 P5
Miami - 8 conference games + ND = 9 P5
North Carolina - 8 conference games + UGA, Illinois = 10 P5
Pitt - 8 conference games + Penn St., Okie St. = 10 P5
UVA - 8 conference games + Oregon = 9 P5
VT - 8 conference games + Tennessee, ND = 10 P5

Total: 132 / 14 = 9.428 P5


B1G East
Indiana - 9 conference games + WF = 10 P5
Maryland - 9 conference games = 9 P5
Michigan - 9 conference games + Colorado = 10 P5
MSU - 9 conference games + ND, BYU = 11 P5
Ohio St. - 9 conference games + Oklahoma = 10 P5
Penn St. - 9 conference games + Pitt = 10 P5
Rutgers - 9 conference games + Washington = 10 P5

B1G West
Illinois - 9 conference games + North Carolina = 10 P5
Iowa - 9 conference games + Iowa St. = 10 P5
Minnesota - 9 conference games + Oregon St. = 10 P5
Nebraska - 9 conference games + Oregon = 10 P5
Northwestern - 9 conference games + Duke = 10 P5
Purdue - 9 conference games = 9 P5
Wisconsin - 9 conference games + LSU = 10 P5

Total: 139 / 14 = 9.928 P5


Big 12
Baylor - 9 conference games = 9 P5
Iowa St. - 9 conference games + Iowa = 10 P5
Kansas - 9 conference games = 9 P5
Kansas St. - 9 conference games + Stanford = 10 P5
Oklahoma - 9 conference games + Ohio St. = 10 P5
Oklahoma St. - 9 conference games + Pitt = 10 P5
TCU - 9 conference games + Arkansas = 10 P5
Texas - 9 conference games + ND, Cal = 11 P5
TT - 9 conference games + Arizona St. = 10 P5
WVU - 9 conference games + Missouri, BYU = 11 P5

Total: 100 / 10 = 10 P5


PAC North

Cal - 9 conference games + Texas = 10 P5
Stanford - 9 conference games + Kansas St., ND = 11 P5
Oregon - 9 conference games + Virginia, Nebraska = 11 P5
Oregon St. - 9 conference games + Minny = 10 P5
Washington - 9 conference games + Rutgers = 10 P5
Washington St. - 9 conference games = 9 P5

PAC South
Arizona - 9 conference games + BYU = 10 P5
Arizona St. - 9 conference games + TT = 10 P5
Colorado - 9 conference games + Michigan = 10 P5
Utah - 9 conference games + BYU = 10 P5
UCLA - 9 conference games + TAMU, BYU = 11 P5
USC - 9 conference games + Alabama, ND = 11 P5

Total: 123 / 12 = 10.25 P5


SEC East
UF - 8 conference games + FSU = 9 P5
UGA - 8 conference games + North Carolina, GT = 10 P5
UK - 8 conference games + Louisville = 9 P5
Mizzou - 8 conference games + WVU = 9 P5
SCAR - 8 conference games + Clemson = 9 P5
UT - 8 conference games + VT = 9 P5
Vandy - 8 conference games + GT = 9 P5

SEC West
Alabama - 8 conference games + USC = 9 P5
Arkansas - 8 conference games + TCU = 9 P5
Auburn - 8 conference games + Clemson = 9 P5
LSU - 8 conference games + Wiscy = 9 P5
Miss. St. - 8 conference games + BYU = 9 P5
Ole Miss - 8 conference games + FSU = 9 P5
TAMU - 8 conference games + UCLA = 9 P5

Total: 127 / 14 = 9.071 P5

SEC will consider Notre Dame, BYU and Army as Power Five opponents

You forgot the SEC charts depicting this information :dhd:

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Why do facts when you can make up your own formula.
Fear of a 9 game conference schedule?Fear of elevated competition? Honestly I have no idea why anyone would waste time making a chart that isn't even actually based on the topic.That does not change the simple facts.stead of just saying it is what it is.When its really as simple as it gets.
 

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An even easier opponent than UT-Chattanooga...they get to play UT-Knoxville every year.:L
 
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In all fairness .. Saban was the lone SEC coach to vote in favor of a 9 game conference schedule.
 

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It's been posted ad nauseum on here as to why the SEC & ACC avoid playing their own conference members.

We can agree on that...it has been ad nauseum...
 

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same washington st that went on the road at auburn and played them to a 7 point loss. fun fact auburn did not return favor and play in pullman? shocker right..oh i think that same auburn team went on to play in national championship.

Actually no, that Washington State team beat Southern Utah 48-10, Idaho 42-0 and a ranked USC 10-7 to start 3-1...then the wheels sort of came of the wagon and they couged their way to .500 football, getting 50 hung on them in 5 games in a 6 week stretch(Go Bears), still managed to win 6 games(cause Cal and Zona) then lost their bowl game, but thanks for playing.

As for Auburn...Washington State joins a list of 7 teams that were 7 points or less in a game with Auburn that year...magic feather and all. So you're not going to get any arguments from me that Auburn was a shitty team with an enormous amount of luck.
 

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I haven't seen 2 people suck each other off so much since...Clark and Doobs.
 

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I wonder if he voted that way knowing it wouldn't pass.

Saban votes that way for recruiting purposes only. He doesn't give a shit about the crying going on here.

He wants to be able to tell a kid that they will play in the state of the SEC state they are recruiting from during their time at Alabama, so that their family etc can get a good chance to see them play. If it's 6 years until you see South Carolina again, then he can't do that when recruiting in South Carolina.

And that's basically it.

He is however in favor of the schedule being nothing but P5 teams.
 

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I haven't seen 2 people suck each other off so much since...Clark and Doobs.
Lmao looks like someone's mad. Possibly frustrated that there is no chart or skewed numbers to dispute the facts that have been laid out :dhd: Then again in the end it is what it is. Schedule manipulation to gain an edge. This was also shown in through the example. Of how a 9 game conference schedule would have removed Alabama from the rematch game with LSU due to reduced SOS. I can see why your frustrated tho lol
 

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Lmao looks like someone's mad. Possibly frustrated that thhere is no chart or skewed numbers to disputes the facts that have been laid out :dhd: Then again in the end it is what it is. Schedule manipulation to gain an edge. This was also shown in through the example. Of how a 9 game conference schedule would have removed Alabama from the rematch game with LSU due to reduced SOS. I can see why your frustrated tho lol

Your trolling is as lame as ever. Just make something up, and repeat it over and over. It's no wonder you have to follow people around with ratings.
 

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Your trolling is as lame as ever. Just make something up, and repeat it over and over. It's no wonder you have to follow people around with ratings.
I'm presenting facts I could say your trolling. Since your going off topic due to a lack of a valid response on topic.This has nothing to do with me or every conference would play a 9 game conference schedule :noidea: But I'm curious if you can provide a valid argurmrnt on topic. Otherwise I will just get a laugh out of your "butthurt" And continue to discuss facts with people that can handle that. So unless you have a response that legitimately refutes the facts. On how a 9 game conference schedule. Doesn't directly lower conference SOS ,over all rankings, Bowl eligibility.....which you obviously can't because the facts are indeisptable. you can throw a tantrum and deflect while the rest of us discuss this :dhd:
 

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Lmao looks like someone's mad. Possibly frustrated that there is no chart or skewed numbers to dispute the facts that have been laid out :dhd: Then again in the end it is what it is. Schedule manipulation to gain an edge. This was also shown in through the example. Of how a 9 game conference schedule would have removed Alabama from the rematch game with LSU due to reduced SOS. I can see why your frustrated tho lol

Wouldn't it only have reduced our SOS if we lost the game that was replaced...seems like an low probability outcome based on the remaining teams we could have played in-conference.

Or are you making the argument that all our opponents could potentially have an extra loss. Based on the fact that we are in the West and most of our opponents would be playing SEC Least teams as an extra opponent in '11, I would argue that Oklahoma St wouldn't even be in the discussion anymore based on our SOS...but hey, I'm willing to listen to you prattle on about how that's incorrect.

Start by telling me how a win against an FCS team dramatically improves your SOS...that's always good for a chuckle...and no copy and paste from an old Smiles manifesto...I want some original work.
 

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Wouldn't it only have reduced our SOS if we lost the game that was replaced...seems like an low probability outcome based on the remaining teams we could have played in-conference.

Or are you making the argument that all our opponents could potentially have an extra loss. Based on the fact that we are in the West and most of our opponents would be playing SEC Least teams as an extra opponent in '11, I would argue that Oklahoma St wouldn't even be in the discussion anymore based on our SOS...but hey, I'm willing to listen to you prattle on about how that's incorrect.

Start by telling me how a win against an FCS team dramatically improves your SOS...that's always good for a chuckle...and no copy and paste from an old Smiles manifesto...I want some original work.
No it would have reduced your SOS regardless.Because with a 9 game conference schedule.That means guaranteed losses throughout the conference.And conference a conference game is no guarantee.Two teams can't both win that game.The redistribution of the losses.Extra losses in conference.Lowers the rankings of the other teams within the conference. Which in turn lowers SOS. The auto losses drops the ranks of the opponents a team plays in conference as well. Its not just dropping one team And SOS did play a role in that BCS era.From the human polls down to the computer poll.It took Saban voting Oklahoma State 4th behind Stanford to push them over that edge.As close as that was. The reduced SOS puts Alabama out of that game imo
 

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Your trolling is as lame as ever. Just make something up, and repeat it over and over. It's no wonder you have to follow people around with ratings.
Like someone who keeps resorting to charts and "you're trolling.Because they don't have a legitimate response to facts.I'll wait until you can handle a reply on topic.Sorry I'm not feeding you
 

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No it would have reduced your SOS regardless.Because with a 9 game conference schedule.That means guaranteed losses throughout the conference.And conference a conference game is no guarantee.Two teams can't both win that game.The redistribution of the losses.Extra losses in conference.Lowers the rankings of the other teams within the conference. Which in turn lowers SOS. The auto losses drops the ranks of the opponents a team plays in conference as well. Its not just dropping one team And SOS did play a role in that BCS era.From the human polls down to the computer poll.It took Saban voting Oklahoma State 4th behind Stanford to push them over that edge.As close as that was. The reduced SOS puts Alabama out of that game imo

I say bullshit. Seven extra SEC wins sku towards the West as these would all be cross division games. The loss of a FCS win is negligible to SOS and the offset of extra SEC West wins would have put us higher.

The only time Oklahoma state was ahead of us in the BCS was when they were unbeaten and we had one loss.

Had we beaten Kentucky it would have been a wash...had we beaten South Carolina or Georgia it would have been a HUGE boost.

Again, your whole scenario is based on us losing the extra game...otherwise we club Oklahoma Lite like a baby seal in the BCS formula.

Saying Saban pushed them over the edge is slightly disengenuous...Ok lite was 5th in the Harris Poll and 3rd in the AP and the Coaches Poll. Saban didn't even make the difference in the Coaches Poll let alone the BCS.
 

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I say bullshit. Seven extra SEC wins sku towards the West as these would all be cross division games. The loss of a FCS win is negligible to SOS and the offset of extra SEC West wins would have put us higher.

The only time Oklahoma state was ahead of us in the BCS was when they were unbeaten and we had one loss.

Had we beaten Kentucky it would have been a wash...had we beaten South Carolina or Georgia it would have been a HUGE boost.

Again, your whole scenario is based on us losing the extra game...otherwise we club Oklahoma Lite like a baby seal in the BCS formula.

Saying Saban pushed them over the edge is slight disengenuous...Ok lite was 5th in the Harris Poll and 3rd in the AP and the Coaches Poll. Saban didn't even make the difference in the Coaches Poll let alone the BCS.
It's a mathematical fact that more conference games mean more losses within said conference. That isn't disputable ... it's a fvkn fact.
 

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It's a mathematical fact that more conference games mean more losses within said conference. That isn't disputable ... it's a fvkn fact.

It also means more conference P5 wins...or is that not a fucking, sorry fvkn fact.

It's also a fact that subbing any of our 3 potential SEC East opponents for Georgia Southern would have improved our SOS not lowered it.
 
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