Alabama has played UT-Chattanooga 3 times since 2008

[AlaskaGuy]

PAC12 and Big12 teams have 9 conference games and the overwhelming majority have no problem scheduling FCS teams so why would the SEC have trouble with it? 30% of the conference already scheduled two quality OOC games against P5 teams. We would be losing Georgia vs Notre Dame not Georgia vs Samford. For the other 70% of the teams we would be losing games against Sunbelt or MACtion games. Those conference games may give a slightly better view of who is better IN conference, but I highly doubt that given the SEC East is runny, hot garbage but we lose valuable data when it comes to who is better when it comes to comparing teams out of conference. If you want to know who is the top four teams for the playoffs we need more out of conference games against P5 opponents, not less, so we have a much better chance because we can compare like opponents. (Yes the transitive property isn't exact but at least it gives us some vision).

The PAC teams averaged 10.25 regular season games vs P5 opponents last season. The SEC averaged 9 regular season games vs P5 opponents last season. USC and Stanford play ND home & away every year get SC managed to play Bama last season and they will play Texas this year. Stanford played at Kansas State last year while playing ND like they alway do. These are teams that play a 9 game conference schedule.

 

[4down20]

The PAC teams averaged 10.25 regular season games vs P5 opponents last season. The SEC averaged 9 regular season games vs P5 opponents last season. USC and Stanford play ND home & away every year get SC managed to play Bama last season and they will play Texas this year. Stanford played at Kansas State last year while playing ND like they alway do. These are teams that play a 9 game conference schedule.

No way your numbers are correct.

 

[7Samurai13]

The PAC teams averaged 10.25 regular season games vs P5 opponents last season. The SEC averaged 9 regular season games vs P5 opponents last season. USC and Stanford play ND home & away every year get SC managed to play Bama last season and they will play Texas this year. Stanford played at Kansas State last year while playing ND like they alway do. These are teams that play a 9 game conference schedule.

So California, Oregon, Washington, Oregon State, Washington State, Arizona, Colorado, and Utah don't play FCS opponents this year? That's 2/3's of your conference. Again the majority of your conference have no problem playing FCS opponents with a nine game schedule, so why would the SEC have troubles scheduling them?

 

[AlaskaGuy]

No way your numbers are correct.

Don't ever doubt me again. I am the college football God of the internet.


2016 P5 opponents by team and conference

ACC Atlantic
BC - 8 conference games = 8 P5
Clemson - 8 conference games + Auburn, SCAR = 10 P5
FSU - 8 conference games + Ole Miss, UF = 10 P5
Louisville - 8 conference games + Kentucky = 9 P5
NC State - 8 conference games + ND = 9 P5
Syracuse - 8 conference games + ND = 9 P5
WF - 8 conference games + Indiana = 9 P5

ACC Coastal
Duke - 8 conference games + Northwestern, ND = 10 P5
GT - 8 conference games + Vandy, UGA = 10 P5
Miami - 8 conference games + ND = 9 P5
North Carolina - 8 conference games + UGA, Illinois = 10 P5
Pitt - 8 conference games + Penn St., Okie St. = 10 P5
UVA - 8 conference games + Oregon = 9 P5
VT - 8 conference games + Tennessee, ND = 10 P5

Total: 132 / 14 = 9.428 P5


B1G East
Indiana - 9 conference games + WF = 10 P5
Maryland - 9 conference games = 9 P5
Michigan - 9 conference games + Colorado = 10 P5
MSU - 9 conference games + ND, BYU = 11 P5
Ohio St. - 9 conference games + Oklahoma = 10 P5
Penn St. - 9 conference games + Pitt = 10 P5
Rutgers - 9 conference games + Washington = 10 P5

B1G West
Illinois - 9 conference games + North Carolina = 10 P5
Iowa - 9 conference games + Iowa St. = 10 P5
Minnesota - 9 conference games + Oregon St. = 10 P5
Nebraska - 9 conference games + Oregon = 10 P5
Northwestern - 9 conference games + Duke = 10 P5
Purdue - 9 conference games = 9 P5
Wisconsin - 9 conference games + LSU = 10 P5

Total: 139 / 14 = 9.928 P5


Big 12
Baylor - 9 conference games = 9 P5
Iowa St. - 9 conference games + Iowa = 10 P5
Kansas - 9 conference games = 9 P5
Kansas St. - 9 conference games + Stanford = 10 P5
Oklahoma - 9 conference games + Ohio St. = 10 P5
Oklahoma St. - 9 conference games + Pitt = 10 P5
TCU - 9 conference games + Arkansas = 10 P5
Texas - 9 conference games + ND, Cal = 11 P5
TT - 9 conference games + Arizona St. = 10 P5
WVU - 9 conference games + Missouri, BYU = 11 P5

Total: 100 / 10 = 10 P5


PAC North
Cal - 9 conference games + Texas = 10 P5
Stanford - 9 conference games + Kansas St., ND = 11 P5
Oregon - 9 conference games + Virginia, Nebraska = 11 P5
Oregon St. - 9 conference games + Minny = 10 P5
Washington - 9 conference games + Rutgers = 10 P5
Washington St. - 9 conference games = 9 P5

PAC South
Arizona - 9 conference games + BYU = 10 P5
Arizona St. - 9 conference games + TT = 10 P5
Colorado - 9 conference games + Michigan = 10 P5
Utah - 9 conference games + BYU = 10 P5
UCLA - 9 conference games + TAMU, BYU = 11 P5
USC - 9 conference games + Alabama, ND = 11 P5

Total: 123 / 12 = 10.25 P5


SEC East
UF - 8 conference games + FSU = 9 P5
UGA - 8 conference games + North Carolina, GT = 10 P5
UK - 8 conference games + Louisville = 9 P5
Mizzou - 8 conference games + WVU = 9 P5
SCAR - 8 conference games + Clemson = 9 P5
UT - 8 conference games + VT = 9 P5
Vandy - 8 conference games + GT = 9 P5

SEC West
Alabama - 8 conference games + USC = 9 P5
Arkansas - 8 conference games + TCU = 9 P5
Auburn - 8 conference games + Clemson = 9 P5
LSU - 8 conference games + Wiscy = 9 P5
Miss. St. - 8 conference games + BYU = 9 P5
Ole Miss - 8 conference games + FSU = 9 P5
TAMU - 8 conference games + UCLA = 9 P5

Total: 127 / 14 = 9.071 P5


SEC will consider Notre Dame, BYU and Army as Power Five opponents

 

[7Samurai13]

Don't ever doubt me again. I am the college football God of the internet.


2016 P5 opponents by team and conference

ACC Atlantic
BC - 8 conference games = 8 P5
Clemson - 8 conference games + Auburn, SCAR = 10 P5
FSU - 8 conference games + Ole Miss, UF = 10 P5
Louisville - 8 conference games + Kentucky = 9 P5
NC State - 8 conference games + ND = 9 P5
Syracuse - 8 conference games + ND = 9 P5
WF - 8 conference games + Indiana = 9 P5

ACC Coastal
Duke - 8 conference games + Northwestern, ND = 10 P5
GT - 8 conference games + Vandy, UGA = 10 P5
Miami - 8 conference games + ND = 9 P5
North Carolina - 8 conference games + UGA, Illinois = 10 P5
Pitt - 8 conference games + Penn St., Okie St. = 10 P5
UVA - 8 conference games + Oregon = 9 P5
VT - 8 conference games + Tennessee, ND = 10 P5

Total: 132 / 14 = 9.428 P5


B1G East
Indiana - 9 conference games + WF = 10 P5
Maryland - 9 conference games = 9 P5
Michigan - 9 conference games + Colorado = 10 P5
MSU - 9 conference games + ND, BYU = 11 P5
Ohio St. - 9 conference games + Oklahoma = 10 P5
Penn St. - 9 conference games + Pitt = 10 P5
Rutgers - 9 conference games + Washington = 10 P5

B1G West
Illinois - 9 conference games + North Carolina = 10 P5
Iowa - 9 conference games + Iowa St. = 10 P5
Minnesota - 9 conference games + Oregon St. = 10 P5
Nebraska - 9 conference games + Oregon = 10 P5
Northwestern - 9 conference games + Duke = 10 P5
Purdue - 9 conference games = 9 P5
Wisconsin - 9 conference games + LSU = 10 P5

Total: 139 / 14 = 9.928 P5


Big 12
Baylor - 9 conference games = 9 P5
Iowa St. - 9 conference games + Iowa = 10 P5
Kansas - 9 conference games = 9 P5
Kansas St. - 9 conference games + Stanford = 10 P5
Oklahoma - 9 conference games + Ohio St. = 10 P5
Oklahoma St. - 9 conference games + Pitt = 10 P5
TCU - 9 conference games + Arkansas = 10 P5
Texas - 9 conference games + ND, Cal = 11 P5
TT - 9 conference games + Arizona St. = 10 P5
WVU - 9 conference games + Missouri, BYU = 11 P5

Total: 100 / 10 = 10 P5


PAC North
Cal - 9 conference games + Texas = 10 P5
Stanford - 9 conference games + Kansas St., ND = 11 P5
Oregon - 9 conference games + Virginia, Nebraska = 11 P5
Oregon St. - 9 conference games + Minny = 10 P5
Washington - 9 conference games + Rutgers = 10 P5
Washington St. - 9 conference games = 9 P5

PAC South
Arizona - 9 conference games + BYU = 10 P5
Arizona St. - 9 conference games + TT = 10 P5
Colorado - 9 conference games + Michigan = 10 P5
Utah - 9 conference games + BYU = 10 P5
UCLA - 9 conference games + TAMU, BYU = 11 P5
USC - 9 conference games + Alabama, ND = 11 P5

Total: 123 / 12 = 10.25 P5


SEC East
UF - 8 conference games + FSU = 9 P5
UGA - 8 conference games + North Carolina, GT = 10 P5
UK - 8 conference games + Louisville = 9 P5
Mizzou - 8 conference games + WVU = 9 P5
SCAR - 8 conference games + Clemson = 9 P5
UT - 8 conference games + VT = 9 P5
Vandy - 8 conference games + GT = 9 P5

SEC West
Alabama - 8 conference games + USC = 9 P5
Arkansas - 8 conference games + TCU = 9 P5
Auburn - 8 conference games + Clemson = 9 P5
LSU - 8 conference games + Wiscy = 9 P5
Miss. St. - 8 conference games + BYU = 9 P5
Ole Miss - 8 conference games + FSU = 9 P5
TAMU - 8 conference games + UCLA = 9 P5

Total: 127 / 14 = 9.071 P5


SEC will consider Notre Dame, BYU and Army as Power Five opponents

You can't even figure out what board you are posting in.

 

[TheRobotDevil]

The better teams probably would drop the FCS team...maybe not the teams with in-state non-conference rivals though. The not so good would do what the not so good PAC teams do and schedule the fuck out of them.

As a said 9 game conference schedule would drop an OOCgame.And leave the choice. Schedule an FCS in that slot and lose more SOS. With SOS already dropping due to playing the extra conference game. Which changes the dynamics. It's basic math

 

[AlaskaGuy]

You can't even figure out what board you are posting in.

Not even the gods are perfect. We all have our off days now and then.

 

[TheRobotDevil]

I'd rather see them forced to play two P5 opponents than add another conference game. The last teams I saw schedule two FCS opponents were both in the ACC.

Playing that extra conference game. Gives them a choice with the conference rankings dropping. Schedule stronger teams to compensate SOS. Or take the hit on the FCS teansc

 

[7Samurai13]

Playing that extra conference game. Gives them a choice with the conference rankings dropping. Schedule stronger teams to compensate SOS. Or take the hit on the FCS teansc

Again, if two/thirds of the PAC12 can schedule FCS opponents why would the SEC not be able to schedule them?

 

[4down20]

Again, if two/thirds of the PAC12 can schedule FCS opponents why would the SEC not be able to schedule them?

Clark is just hard up for a friend and would say damn near anything for their support.

 

[TheRobotDevil]

Again, if two/thirds of the PAC12 can schedule FCS opponents why would the SEC not be able to schedule them?

Name one team in the PAC the schedules a mid major/FSC team and an FCS team in november before a rivalry.Or a PAC team that schedules and FCS team in November before a rivalry.I cant think of any in the B1G or BIG X either. What I think some people are lost on.Is the ramifications of that extra conference loss.And how that effects over all SOS. Both directly in conference and in the over alls

 

[TheRobotDevil]

Clark is just hard up for a friend and would say damn near anything for their support.

We know you are afraid of losing the FCS bye week and how it would effect Alabama.As well as the extra loss in the conference.Still deflecting on the topic because there is no excuse

 

[4down20]

We know you are afraid of losing the FCS bye week and how it would effect Alabama.As well as the extra loss in the conference.Still deflecting on the topic because there is no excuse

No excuse is needed.

Just because you cherry pick a few games and never shut up about them doesn't mean it's actually relevant.

 

[7Samurai13]

Name one team in the PAC the schedules a mid major/FSC team and an FCS team in november before a rivalry.Or a PAC team that schedules and FCS team in November before a rivalry.I cant think of any in the B1G or BIG X either. What I think some people are lost on.Is the ramifications of that extra conference loss.And how that effects over all SOS. Both directly in conference and in the over alls

More times than not, the opponent is also playing an FCS so there is no competitive advantage to playing an FCS opponent in November. I used to care about when the scrub game is played but I no longer care. A win in September is the same as a win in November.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

Don't ever doubt me again. I am the college football God of the internet.


2016 P5 opponents by team and conference

ACC Atlantic
BC - 8 conference games = 8 P5
Clemson - 8 conference games + Auburn, SCAR = 10 P5
FSU - 8 conference games + Ole Miss, UF = 10 P5
Louisville - 8 conference games + Kentucky = 9 P5
NC State - 8 conference games + ND = 9 P5
Syracuse - 8 conference games + ND = 9 P5
WF - 8 conference games + Indiana = 9 P5

ACC Coastal
Duke - 8 conference games + Northwestern, ND = 10 P5
GT - 8 conference games + Vandy, UGA = 10 P5
Miami - 8 conference games + ND = 9 P5
North Carolina - 8 conference games + UGA, Illinois = 10 P5
Pitt - 8 conference games + Penn St., Okie St. = 10 P5
UVA - 8 conference games + Oregon = 9 P5
VT - 8 conference games + Tennessee, ND = 10 P5

Total: 132 / 14 = 9.428 P5


B1G East
Indiana - 9 conference games + WF = 10 P5
Maryland - 9 conference games = 9 P5
Michigan - 9 conference games + Colorado = 10 P5
MSU - 9 conference games + ND, BYU = 11 P5
Ohio St. - 9 conference games + Oklahoma = 10 P5
Penn St. - 9 conference games + Pitt = 10 P5
Rutgers - 9 conference games + Washington = 10 P5

B1G West
Illinois - 9 conference games + North Carolina = 10 P5
Iowa - 9 conference games + Iowa St. = 10 P5
Minnesota - 9 conference games + Oregon St. = 10 P5
Nebraska - 9 conference games + Oregon = 10 P5
Northwestern - 9 conference games + Duke = 10 P5
Purdue - 9 conference games = 9 P5
Wisconsin - 9 conference games + LSU = 10 P5

Total: 139 / 14 = 9.928 P5


Big 12
Baylor - 9 conference games = 9 P5
Iowa St. - 9 conference games + Iowa = 10 P5
Kansas - 9 conference games = 9 P5
Kansas St. - 9 conference games + Stanford = 10 P5
Oklahoma - 9 conference games + Ohio St. = 10 P5
Oklahoma St. - 9 conference games + Pitt = 10 P5
TCU - 9 conference games + Arkansas = 10 P5
Texas - 9 conference games + ND, Cal = 11 P5
TT - 9 conference games + Arizona St. = 10 P5
WVU - 9 conference games + Missouri, BYU = 11 P5

Total: 100 / 10 = 10 P5


PAC North
Cal - 9 conference games + Texas = 10 P5
Stanford - 9 conference games + Kansas St., ND = 11 P5
Oregon - 9 conference games + Virginia, Nebraska = 11 P5
Oregon St. - 9 conference games + Minny = 10 P5
Washington - 9 conference games + Rutgers = 10 P5
Washington St. - 9 conference games = 9 P5

PAC South
Arizona - 9 conference games + BYU = 10 P5
Arizona St. - 9 conference games + TT = 10 P5
Colorado - 9 conference games + Michigan = 10 P5
Utah - 9 conference games + BYU = 10 P5
UCLA - 9 conference games + TAMU, BYU = 11 P5
USC - 9 conference games + Alabama, ND = 11 P5

Total: 123 / 12 = 10.25 P5


SEC East
UF - 8 conference games + FSU = 9 P5
UGA - 8 conference games + North Carolina, GT = 10 P5
UK - 8 conference games + Louisville = 9 P5
Mizzou - 8 conference games + WVU = 9 P5
SCAR - 8 conference games + Clemson = 9 P5
UT - 8 conference games + VT = 9 P5
Vandy - 8 conference games + GT = 9 P5

SEC West
Alabama - 8 conference games + USC = 9 P5
Arkansas - 8 conference games + TCU = 9 P5
Auburn - 8 conference games + Clemson = 9 P5
LSU - 8 conference games + Wiscy = 9 P5
Miss. St. - 8 conference games + BYU = 9 P5
Ole Miss - 8 conference games + FSU = 9 P5
TAMU - 8 conference games + UCLA = 9 P5

Total: 127 / 14 = 9.071 P5


SEC will consider Notre Dame, BYU and Army as Power Five opponents

So who schedules like a motherfvkn B0SS?!

 

[TheRobotDevil]

No excuse is needed.

Just because you cherry pick a few games and never shut up about them doesn't mean it's actually relevant.

You're stretching and this obviously upsets you. Still not sure why you cant just say we manipulate the system works for us

 

[4down20]

Don't ever doubt me again. I am the college football God of the internet.


2016 P5 opponents by team and conference

ACC Atlantic
BC - 8 conference games = 8 P5
Clemson - 8 conference games + Auburn, SCAR = 10 P5
FSU - 8 conference games + Ole Miss, UF = 10 P5
Louisville - 8 conference games + Kentucky = 9 P5
NC State - 8 conference games + ND = 9 P5
Syracuse - 8 conference games + ND = 9 P5
WF - 8 conference games + Indiana = 9 P5

ACC Coastal
Duke - 8 conference games + Northwestern, ND = 10 P5
GT - 8 conference games + Vandy, UGA = 10 P5
Miami - 8 conference games + ND = 9 P5
North Carolina - 8 conference games + UGA, Illinois = 10 P5
Pitt - 8 conference games + Penn St., Okie St. = 10 P5
UVA - 8 conference games + Oregon = 9 P5
VT - 8 conference games + Tennessee, ND = 10 P5

Total: 132 / 14 = 9.428 P5


B1G East
Indiana - 9 conference games + WF = 10 P5
Maryland - 9 conference games = 9 P5
Michigan - 9 conference games + Colorado = 10 P5
MSU - 9 conference games + ND, BYU = 11 P5
Ohio St. - 9 conference games + Oklahoma = 10 P5
Penn St. - 9 conference games + Pitt = 10 P5
Rutgers - 9 conference games + Washington = 10 P5

B1G West
Illinois - 9 conference games + North Carolina = 10 P5
Iowa - 9 conference games + Iowa St. = 10 P5
Minnesota - 9 conference games + Oregon St. = 10 P5
Nebraska - 9 conference games + Oregon = 10 P5
Northwestern - 9 conference games + Duke = 10 P5
Purdue - 9 conference games = 9 P5
Wisconsin - 9 conference games + LSU = 10 P5

Total: 139 / 14 = 9.928 P5


Big 12
Baylor - 9 conference games = 9 P5
Iowa St. - 9 conference games + Iowa = 10 P5
Kansas - 9 conference games = 9 P5
Kansas St. - 9 conference games + Stanford = 10 P5
Oklahoma - 9 conference games + Ohio St. = 10 P5
Oklahoma St. - 9 conference games + Pitt = 10 P5
TCU - 9 conference games + Arkansas = 10 P5
Texas - 9 conference games + ND, Cal = 11 P5
TT - 9 conference games + Arizona St. = 10 P5
WVU - 9 conference games + Missouri, BYU = 11 P5

Total: 100 / 10 = 10 P5


PAC North
Cal - 9 conference games + Texas = 10 P5
Stanford - 9 conference games + Kansas St., ND = 11 P5
Oregon - 9 conference games + Virginia, Nebraska = 11 P5
Oregon St. - 9 conference games + Minny = 10 P5
Washington - 9 conference games + Rutgers = 10 P5
Washington St. - 9 conference games = 9 P5

PAC South
Arizona - 9 conference games + BYU = 10 P5
Arizona St. - 9 conference games + TT = 10 P5
Colorado - 9 conference games + Michigan = 10 P5
Utah - 9 conference games + BYU = 10 P5
UCLA - 9 conference games + TAMU, BYU = 11 P5
USC - 9 conference games + Alabama, ND = 11 P5

Total: 123 / 12 = 10.25 P5


SEC East
UF - 8 conference games + FSU = 9 P5
UGA - 8 conference games + North Carolina, GT = 10 P5
UK - 8 conference games + Louisville = 9 P5
Mizzou - 8 conference games + WVU = 9 P5
SCAR - 8 conference games + Clemson = 9 P5
UT - 8 conference games + VT = 9 P5
Vandy - 8 conference games + GT = 9 P5

SEC West
Alabama - 8 conference games + USC = 9 P5
Arkansas - 8 conference games + TCU = 9 P5
Auburn - 8 conference games + Clemson = 9 P5
LSU - 8 conference games + Wiscy = 9 P5
Miss. St. - 8 conference games + BYU = 9 P5
Ole Miss - 8 conference games + FSU = 9 P5
TAMU - 8 conference games + UCLA = 9 P5

Total: 127 / 14 = 9.071 P5


SEC will consider Notre Dame, BYU and Army as Power Five opponents

You just proved your original numbers were bullshit.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

You just proved your original numbers were bullshit.

Explain please. I said and then I showed on here that the PAC teams played an average of 10.25 regular season P5 opponents last season vs the SEC's 9 regular season P5 opponents.

 

[TheRobotDevil]

More times than not, the opponent is also playing an FCS so there is no competitive advantage to playing an FCS opponent in November. I used to care about when the scrub game is played but I no longer care. A win in September is the same as a win in November.

Would you say having a bye week before LSU.Then scheduling an FCS team before Auburn.Isn't used to gain the equivalent of an extra bye week? And on the original point.Do you not see how the extra conference game directly effects conferences and SOS. It is done to gain an advantage

 

[4down20]

You're stretching and this obviously upsets you. Still not sure why you cant just say we manipulate the system works for us

You are the one that is upset. You don't see me spending day after day talking about other teams.

You can try to claim whatever you want, but people who aren't butthurt don't spend weeks crying about how another team schedules. They especially don't do it when what you are crying about is basically how 90% of college football does it, but it just so happens you want to cry about the one that kicked the shit out of your HS team.