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Ickey Shuffle

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Reports are that Boyd turned down a 2yr, $10m offer from the Steelers.

No wonder he's still available. He has an inflated worth of himself. Not that it's anything wrong with that. But he's towards the end of his career.
 

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No wonder he's still available. He has an inflated worth of himself. Not that it's anything wrong with that. But he's towards the end of his career.
Interesting tactic for a WR3 in decline given we're on the eve of the draft that is flush with WR talent. He must have enough teams interested that he feels he can get more... Doubt its much more than $1-2m more.
 

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Interesting tactic for a WR3 in decline given we're on the eve of the draft that is flush with WR talent. He must have enough teams interested that he feels he can get more... Doubt its much more than $1-2m more.
Probably a better move to wait until after the draft. Teams see all that talent in the draf and assume they'll grab their guy at some point, but things change after the draft if you don't have enough talent at the position. Could also wait until injuries start occuring in preseason - I think he's a smart enough receiver to come in and play for a team without an offseason.
 

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Probably a better move to wait until after the draft. Teams see all that talent in the draf and assume they'll grab their guy at some point, but things change after the draft if you don't have enough talent at the position. Could also wait until injuries start occuring in preseason - I think he's a smart enough receiver to come in and play for a team without an offseason.
Yes and no...teams also are going to have their cap numbers pretty much set in stone by that point. The money left over for injury replacement/etc...is going to be that of backups/bench guys and, well, replacement players. Not every team, of course...but ..

I think at this point he's going to have a tough time. The tape is not going to be kind to him from the past 2 seasons, and last year especially he seemed to just really show that his body is taking a step back. Which, honestly, isn't a surprise as he's 29, and will turn 30 a few months into the season...that's usually about when Skill guys start to see that decline.
 

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Have no idea if this is true. But it sounds like something AB would do.

Caitlin Clark had to block him on social media after he said some rude things about her.

Guess someone misses the spotlight?
 

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Have no idea if this is true. But it sounds like something AB would do.

Caitlin Clark had to block him on social media after he said some rude things about her.

Guess someone misses the spotlight?
It’s true. He said something along the lines of “Caitlin Clark definitely keeps it hairy”
 

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I hate how good everyone in the AFCN is at drafting lol. Loved the Mims & Wiggins picks.

But no homerism here, I expected the Steelers to draft Mims even though I had Fautanu rated higher. Did not expect him to fall.

Now I just need the Bengals & Ravens to be idiots for the rest of the draft, mmmkay?
 

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I hate how good everyone in the AFCN is at drafting lol. Loved the Mims & Wiggins picks.

But no homerism here, I expected the Steelers to draft Mims even though I had Fautanu rated higher. Did not expect him to fall.

Now I just need the Bengals & Ravens to be idiots for the rest of the draft, mmmkay?
I really wanted Murphy. I'm salty they were so close and couldn't land him...

But Mims was #1 on my OT list for that 18 spot. Yes, he's inexperienced. That part doesn't matter as much with the law-firm of Brown&Brown at LT/RT for the year. He's got time. When you put on that tape, even going back to 2022 when he makes his first ever starts in the playoff and Championship game against OSU and TCU - dude is blocking at another level. You can't teach his athleticism, lateral agility, and ability to get to the 2nd level.

He's got, possibly, the highest upside in this draft at OT. Really happy with that pick.

Liked the Fautanu pick for you guys...I know there are rumors some think he could stick at LT...personally, I'd like to see him at G first - and then maybe see if he shows enough to think about OT...no need to really rush that.
 

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I really wanted Murphy. I'm salty they were so close and couldn't land him...

But Mims was #1 on my OT list for that 18 spot. Yes, he's inexperienced. That part doesn't matter as much with the law-firm of Brown&Brown at LT/RT for the year. He's got time. When you put on that tape, even going back to 2022 when he makes his first ever starts in the playoff and Championship game against OSU and TCU - dude is blocking at another level. You can't teach his athleticism, lateral agility, and ability to get to the 2nd level.

He's got, possibly, the highest upside in this draft at OT. Really happy with that pick.

Liked the Fautanu pick for you guys...I know there are rumors some think he could stick at LT...personally, I'd like to see him at G first - and then maybe see if he shows enough to think about OT...no need to really rush that.
No lies detected. I would have loved to have Mims too. Great talent, just needs a little more refinement. But he's a mountain of a man.
 

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Bengals been whiffing on their OL draft picks for 10+ years. I'm gonna remain skeptical.
 

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With Hendrickson requesting a trade, D-Line was an emergency address. Bengals did well Day 2.
 

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With Hendrickson requesting a trade, D-Line was an emergency address. Bengals did well Day 2.
Because he's not getting traded. He's got 2 years left on his deal. Not happening. Same with Higgins.

When will people learn - these make great national media stories - but the Bengals simply do not trade guys because they requested it. Bates got tagged, played. Williams got tagged. Played. Higgins got tagged. Told him he's going to play and he himself even came out about a week ago stating that he fully expects to play for the Bengals this year.

Hendrickson just signed a 2 year extension last season. If he was unhappy or thought that deal wasn't good enough, he shouldn't have signed. His agent advising him should be fired for trying to demand a trade in which he threatened to retire if not extended. The guy is 29, and will be 30 next year. If he wants to sit out until he's 31 and try to come back and thinks some team is going to give him a bag...I've got some property down south for sale...Hendrickson may be unhappy, but he's playing for the Bengals through the '25 season. If he wants to threaten to hold out next year, he'd have a bit more leverage, but trying this with 2 years left on a deal in which he just signed the extension last off-season...LOL - Bad move by him and his agent.
 

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Bengals been whiffing on their OL draft picks for 10+ years. I'm gonna remain skeptical.
They've done better with their FA's for sure: Brown, Cappa, Karras...than their picks...though if Williams had been moved to RT a few years ago - he'd have been a really solid RT, IMO.

I think it's fair to have some concerns for Mims, but you can't teach what he can do athletically and on an OL that needed atheliticism badly, he is the most athletic guy on the OL now. Not to mention - some of his playing time, or lack there of, was because he was sitting behind 2 guys who were All-SEC and are now in the NFL - so it's not like he wasn't getting it done. The ankle injury isn't really a concern for me...he had 1 injury - eh. Most players due by this point.

He has the highest ceiling of the OT's in this draft - and even if he doesn't reach all of it, that still puts him above league average at RT...which doesn't suck.
 

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My "nobody asked for it" opinions on AFCN drafts:

Ravens: I'm big on Wiggins & Isaac. Should be able to contribute right away. They found a lot of good value in mid to late rounds. I wanted the Steelers to take Tampa. Ravens wanted to draft OL early, but 9 were taken before they picked in the 1st Rd alone so they wisely opted to go BPA elsewhere. But that puts a lot of emphasis on Rosengarten being a plug & play guy given the state of their OL. They just lost both starting guards in FA, and traded away their starting RT. Their offense might suffer some consistency issues while their new patchwork OL gels.

Bengals: I like Mims & Jenkins. Big dudes capable of starting right away. Not real big on Burton but time will tell with him. Most his film screams scheme dependent, but he has proved to be a big play guy. He comes into a good situation and should start at either WR2 or WR3, depending on Higgins' situation. Jenkins was one of the best run defenders in college football so he'll instantly provide some relief to a Bengals D that has been hemorrhaging yards to opposing running backs. It bugs me that they drafted 2 TEs when they have Gesicki & Sample. Not sure what to think of that..

Browns: The only impact player I see in year 1 is Hall. But makes sense given their draft capital situation. Zinter could also be considered a starter since he's is a borderline 1st Rd prospect had it not been for an injury. If he's all the way back healthy then they got a steal. With Bitonio & Teller, they can afford to give him time to get back to full health.
 

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My "nobody asked for it" opinions on AFCN drafts:

Ravens: I'm big on Wiggins & Isaac. Should be able to contribute right away. They found a lot of good value in mid to late rounds. I wanted the Steelers to take Tampa. Ravens wanted to draft OL early, but 9 were taken before they picked in the 1st Rd alone so they wisely opted to go BPA elsewhere. But that puts a lot of emphasis on Rosengarten being a plug & play guy given the state of their OL. They just lost both starting guards in FA, and traded away their starting RT. Their offense might suffer some consistency issues while their new patchwork OL gels.

Bengals: I like Mims & Jenkins. Big dudes capable of starting right away. Not real big on Burton but time will tell with him. Most his film screams scheme dependent, but he has proved to be a big play guy. He comes into a good situation and should start at either WR2 or WR3, depending on Higgins' situation. Jenkins was one of the best run defenders in college football so he'll instantly provide some relief to a Bengals D that has been hemorrhaging yards to opposing running backs. It bugs me that they drafted 2 TEs when they have Gesicki & Sample. Not sure what to think of that..

Browns: The only impact player I see in year 1 is Hall. But makes sense given their draft capital situation. Zinter could also be considered a starter since he's is a borderline 1st Rd prospect had it not been for an injury. If he's all the way back healthy then they got a steal. With Bitonio & Teller, they can afford to give him time to get back to full health.

Not even sure Hall is big impact day 1 but obviously they need to save money somewhere and he makes a DT expendable next year. Zinter is along the same lines with eyes on Bitonio moreso than Teller.

The rest are depth picks...not much you can expect 5th rd and down.
 

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Not even sure Hall is big impact day 1 but obviously they need to save money somewhere and he makes a DT expendable next year. Zinter is along the same lines with eyes on Bitonio moreso than Teller.

The rest are depth picks...not much you can expect 5th rd and down.
For some reason I thought you guys lost Shelby Harris. Just noticed he was re-signed.
 
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