Adrian Peterson reportedly indicted for child abuse

[Lakers+USC=#1]

His personal defenders seemed to disappear pretty quick as evidence emerged. I was impressed here.

People weren't really defending AP, we were saying whooping your child, period, is fine.

 

[fredmccallyRTR]

After watching our awful NBA team forced to trade away our latest disgruntled Superstar, this news about Peterson is surreal. It's like your wife just told you she was filing for divorce, then you went into work and they said they were making cuts and they were letting you go as a result. I mean, not literally obviously, but figuratively.

If he is suspended for the season does his salary still go against your team's salary cap? After the Rice fiasco I was thinking about that.

 

[NorthernLights88]

no. honestly I came on here to find out what it actually was that he had done. My comments started over the belt is a weapon comments, then have simply been talking about spankings in general.

A 4 year old doesn't have to be spanked all that hard at all to get the point across. In fact you could probably spank a 4 year old with about a zero pain factor & freak them out enough to straighten them up.

I still don't understand what you didn't like about my posts. If you read them all, especially based on this exact post of yours, it seems like we are mostly in agreement about this.

 

[Lakers+USC=#1]

I'm not mixed up about anything. It's not ok to hit a child, ever. We need to take a long, hard look at our society that we allow it.

That's your opinion, but just know you are in the minority.

 

[4down20]

When did switches become "tree branches"?

 

[Leroy Brown]

I don't believe 95% of people spank their children. Just the ones who aren't good enough parents to discipline without resorting to violence.

That's hilarious. My daughter's teachers rant and rave about her discipline and how gracious and kind she is to her classmates and even younger students...and she would get her butt whipped when she was little. I don't have to as much anymore, because the standard has been set and she knows what it is.

Mind you, this same kid is Brazilian Jiu Jitsu beast and 99% of the time, easily the baddest mofo in class. If a boy pocks on her, she could easily choke him to sleep and/or break his arm. Yest she doesn't, even though she has received spankings at home. She maintains her cool...now if she sees someone picking on someone else who can't defend themselves, she will rear naked choke their punk ass.

So no, your generalization of parents who spank is short-sighted, self righteous, and downright ignorant.

 

[fredmccallyRTR]

People weren't really defending AP, we were saying whooping your child, period, is fine.

Thus why I used the word 'personal', meaning you weren't defending him as an individual in this incident.

 

[fordman84]

I'm not reading 8 pages, so I'll just say this and let it piss off whomever is going to get pissed off:


I grew up knowing exactly what a switch was, a peach tree switch was my grandmothers implement of punishment. When we would go to her house to stay she would make my trouble maker brother go pick his own switch and de-leaf it, and she would put it on the fridge. ONly took one time of having one hand held about your head as you danced a jig to a few swats.

A FEW swats. Never welps or blood or injuries all over the body. Plainly put, fuck the shit out of AP. A grown ass man that lets his temper get so out of control he draws blood and the kid needs to go to the Dr? Fuck that lowlife.

 

[4down20]

His personal defenders seemed to disappear pretty quick as evidence emerged. I was impressed here.

I don't think anyone is saying he didn't hit too hard. Talking about spanking your kids, which people were saying in this thread right away. If you draw blood you are hitting too hard obviously.

 

[Groo]

Really? Are we that sick in the head, to think it is okay to beat a four year old.

Amen.

 

[williewilliejuan]

That's your opinion, but just know you are in the minority.

I'll just take comfort in being morally right, regardless of the numbers.

 

[NorthernLights88]

The Cowboys wanted to trade for Peterson earlier this year.

I will let it play out and have everything confirmed first, but if it's as bad as it is sounding, they can have AP.

 

[Schmoopy1000]

That makes sense, but you have to consider this. After about age 7 when I began to fully understand my dad was the boss I never once in my lifetime ever said no to him. If he would have said rob the bank I'd have done it (hyperbole). I never broke a single solitary rule, I did exactly as he said until the day I moved out. I was never disciplined with corporal punishment after I was 7 because I was in absolute obedience.

When I was 18+ and still living with my parents I knew if I acted out one bit I was kicked out.

A lot of truth here.
My daughter now married & has her own baby. S I was talking to her on the phone earlier this year & she said her & grandma were talking about when she was young (she could be a lil hellyan LOL) & she was worried about dealing with her son when he gets a bit older. Anyways she said you know Dad I was always worried about dreaded words wait til your father gets home comments but now that I think about it. You hardly ever spanked me growing up. I simply told her I hardly ever had too.
Once they understand what a spanking is for, it will hardly be needed.

Spankings cant be the only form of discipline a parent uses on a child. Otherwise you are simply breaking their soul. But for the PC people that think there is no place for it is ridiculous.

 

[always]

Amen.

I haven't had kids yet. But when I do, I may or may not use corporal punishment. I haven't decided yet. Just know that it is the most effective deterrent for a young kid.

 

[Midnightangel]

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A few words of wisdom from Richard Pryor....

 

[GNG]

I will let it play out and have everything confirmed first, but if it's as bad as it is sounding, they can have AP.

It may be too late.

 

[Rams4ever]

He beat his kid with a switch. Ordinarily, I would be fine. But after looking at the photos, I understand why his wife was upset. The marks looked like he was lashed.

 

[craigk217]

I don't trust stats. I trust my own life experience and it tells me that today's world is not well behave at all. It was much safer when I was a lad and that has been a while.

I'm 100% in agreement with you Harold ... I hold the same line you do ... my eyes do not deceive with what I see in the world today.

However, I even started a thread in the PF a long time ago on this very same topic with kid's behavior these days being way worse than when I grew up. I pretty much got bombarded with these stats that other folks are referring to in this thread regarding violent crime being down ... it does appear to be a fact.

That said, violent crime may be down, but the utter disrespect and the 'who gives a shit' attitude is everywhere with kids today. The overall piss poor behavior & attitudes are over the top.

 

[4down20]

I'll just take comfort in being morally right, regardless of the numbers.

morally right is bringing your kids up right whatever it takes.

 

[Leroy Brown]

That's hilarious. My daughter's teachers rant and rave about her discipline and how gracious and kind she is to her classmates and even younger students...and she would get her butt whipped when she was little. I don't have to as much anymore, because the standard has been set and she knows what it is.

Mind you, this same kid is Brazilian Jiu Jitsu beast and 99% of the time, easily the baddest mofo in class. If a boy pocks on her, she could easily choke him to sleep and/or break his arm. Yest she doesn't, even though she has received spankings at home. She maintains her cool...now if she sees someone picking on someone else who can't defend themselves, she will rear naked choke their punk ass.

So no, your generalization of parents who spank is short-sighted, self righteous, and downright ignorant.

Is there anyway to edit posts here?

I'm not reading 8 pages, so I'll just say this and let it piss off whomever is going to get pissed off:


I grew up knowing exactly what a switch was, a peach tree switch was my grandmothers implement of punishment. When we would go to her house to stay she would make my trouble maker brother go pick his own switch and de-leaf it, and she would put it on the fridge. ONly took one time of having one hand held about your head as you danced a jig to a few swats.

A FEW swats. Never welps or blood or injuries all over the body. Plainly put, fuck the shit out of AP. A grown ass man that lets his temper get so out of control he draws blood and the kid needs to go to the Dr? Fuck that lowlife.

I tend to agree with you...that's waaaaaay too much. I used a belt for effect once on my daughter when she was nine. I measured the force in my strikes as best I could and even though she deserved it for what she did, I hated having to do it. Peterson had quite the fucked up family and childhood, I used to wonder how he contained it/dealt with it all as an adult without flipping. Guess there still are some emotional scars with him too.*


*Although that doesn't excuse what Peterson did. That's disgusting. Two taps on the kids behind with his open palm would've done the trick with Peterson's strength.