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Not yet ... Closer than Harper in my opinion.
Not sure about that. Harper almost has many WAR as Bumgarner does despite being 3+ years younger and while Harper's track record is a bit all over the place, he does have a historical MVP season under his belt. Bumgarner only has two seasons where he even finished among the top 10 pitchers in the NL in WAR and has never finished higher than 7th. He's been a workhorse, but I'm not sure he's ever really been an elite pitcher (except maybe 2016). The postseason resume might give him the better career right now, but I wouldn't say either of them are close to being a HOFer right now.
 

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I think Altuve is a lock ... Trout is a lock ... Lindor ... looks pretty damn good ... Harper is way too Baseball BiPolar ... Kershaw is a lock and Bumgarner if he can stay healthy.

I like Altuve's chances. Just think he needs to keep it up a little longer. Hell, Craig Biggio had 3,000 hits and had to wait a few years to get in.
 

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Is that all you have ... Lou Whitaker was one-half of a legendary double play combination ... beats Murphy in just about every offense category as a 2nd baseman.
Murphy had way more outfield assists.

Suck it Lou.
 

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Yeah, but Jason Varitek caught more guys stealing than either of them.
Murphy came up as a catcher, but kept drilling the pitcher on throws to second. A mental block thingy.
 

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If Utley is borderline is Cano as well?

I also think Votto has a chance.

Some that I think have a chance with more time are
Hamels and Sale
Cano was certainly likely until the suspension. That may actually help utley I guess.
 

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Effin' Jack Morris. Punched a HOF ticket for the '91 World Series. Other than that? Meh

Also went 3-0 in the '84 postseason (Babe Ruth Award winner), including 2 complete-game wins in the World Series that year.
 

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Verlander is a weird case for me... his career ERA is nothing special, but his IP is... but the advanced stats love him... then he gets the great BIG GAME pitcher title, but has yet to win a WS game... so how big game is he??

was only a CY once, only had 3 seasons of below 3.00 ERA...

He was also the CY runner-up by the two closest voting margins in history (2012, 2016). He was certainly #2 to David Price in 2012. No argument there. But f*ck those two writers in Florida who left him off the ballot completely in 2016.
 

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He was also the CY runner-up by the two closest voting margins in history (2012, 2016). He was certainly #2 to David Price in 2012. No argument there. But f*ck those two writers in Florida who left him off the ballot completely in 2016.

yea, I thought he deserved it in 2016... But he still only has one CY... One CY doesn't jump him...

Again, do you realize he only has 2 seasons of below 3.00 ERA(3 if including this season) and only one other season Below 3.3?? His Whip is great, but not special... so basically the only stat that gets him into the HOF is his IP and SO, which is why his WAR is so good... Hell, his ERA+ is only 126, which is not SPECIAL...

I have him on the border, but he is having another GREAT season, so maybe before he retires he will do enough...

I have Kluber ahead of him... entirely because of dominant years being better for Kluber... even if his overall numbers are not close...

of the Active pitchers I would rank the most likely to make the HOF as of today...

1. Kershaw(definitely in)
2. Scherzer(definitely in)
3. Kluber(One more CY or 2 more ELITE seasons and will be a definite)
4. Kimbrel-(a closer so he needs to continue- but he is on his way to being a top 5 RP of all time)
5. Verlander(not a definite yet, right now I would say NO, but he is close, and he is still pitching)
6. Sale( no CY wins, but has been a top 5 pitcher pretty consistently, he needs to continue his dominance)
7. Greinke( has some elite years, but on the back end and will likely NOT make it)
 

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Yeah, but Jason Varitek caught more guys stealing than either of them.

Without the infielder catching the ball and tagging the runner ... Varitek had 541 assists and "Sweet" Lou Whitaker had 4771 putouts ... edge Sweet Lou!!! WAR of 24.1 for Varitek and 75.1 for Sweet Lou!!!
 

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Gleyber Torres
 

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Not sure about that. Harper almost has many WAR as Bumgarner does despite being 3+ years younger and while Harper's track record is a bit all over the place, he does have a historical MVP season under his belt. Bumgarner only has two seasons where he even finished among the top 10 pitchers in the NL in WAR and has never finished higher than 7th. He's been a workhorse, but I'm not sure he's ever really been an elite pitcher (except maybe 2016). The postseason resume might give him the better career right now, but I wouldn't say either of them are close to being a HOFer right now.

Yeah I think it’s the post season resume that gives MadBaum the edge right now.

If Morris can eventually get in. MadBaum is set up nicely.
 

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Bumgarner isn't a HOFer. lmfao
Nope.

But CC is.

And Felix.

Maybe Greinke. Maybe Hamels. And the other locks that have been mentioned. I don't see guys like Sale or Bum making it considering their contemporaries.
 

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I'll never understand the Utley thing.


Dude isn't going to be a HOFer with less than 2000 hits. Don't believe me? Ask Bobby Grich.
 

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yea, I thought he deserved it in 2016... But he still only has one CY... One CY doesn't jump him...

Again, do you realize he only has 2 seasons of below 3.00 ERA(3 if including this season) and only one other season Below 3.3?? His Whip is great, but not special... so basically the only stat that gets him into the HOF is his IP and SO, which is why his WAR is so good... Hell, his ERA+ is only 126, which is not SPECIAL...

I have him on the border, but he is having another GREAT season, so maybe before he retires he will do enough...

I have Kluber ahead of him... entirely because of dominant years being better for Kluber... even if his overall numbers are not close...

of the Active pitchers I would rank the most likely to make the HOF as of today...

1. Kershaw(definitely in)
2. Scherzer(definitely in)
3. Kluber(One more CY or 2 more ELITE seasons and will be a definite)
4. Kimbrel-(a closer so he needs to continue- but he is on his way to being a top 5 RP of all time)
5. Verlander(not a definite yet, right now I would say NO, but he is close, and he is still pitching)
6. Sale( no CY wins, but has been a top 5 pitcher pretty consistently, he needs to continue his dominance)
7. Greinke( has some elite years, but on the back end and will likely NOT make it)
Kluber doesn't have the time to make it.

Came up too late.
 
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