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I think Kyle Williams is the one they may end up getting cut at this point.
 

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Alright, I have to throw this out here, and I apologize for temporarily derailing the thread. Is anybody else totally inundated with moths right now? Last night I had so many moths on the ceiling of my living room I felt like I was in a scene from Alfred Hitchcock's "The Birds." I thought I was being stalked.

Is anybody else dealing with this BS right now?
 

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Hate to break it to those of you who are already celebrating his departure, but I don't think Crabtree is going anywhere.
 

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He'd be a real fun project and an exciting developmental WR to have as a coach. Real high but as I said before if you would have forced me to take a wide receiver at that spot he would have been one of maybe three I'd have chosen there (Hill, Jarius Wright and Jenkins).

Four basic concerns I'd have with him going in:

Weight/strength - Will he be able to keep weight on? What do those in the know have to say about him in the weight room. How good is he at taking care of his body? Alot of players have those concerns coming into the NFL but he's a baby in terms of his physical development. He needs alot of work in learning how to disengage at the LOS (maybe the biggest worry I have right now).

Concentration lapses - He has had a problem with drops. It seemed to be either losing concentration or he would let the ball into his body too much. He got better this last year but he's not the most feisty hands catcher.

Overall inconsistency - As a route runner he needs to become consistently more precise. Right now he rounds some of his routes, doesn't always do a good job of setting up defenders and sometimes he's wild coming out of his breaks.

Immaturity: He is a very confident person and doesn't always express it the way alot of coaches/people would like. He isn't the most eloquent speaker. I don't think anybody believes he doesn't work hard but I think some people have the belief that he thinks he's already better than he actually is because he lets his mouth go off from time to time. He could end up being one of those guys the media will run to when they need a spicy prediction for an upcoming game. He has a history of giving predictions. Some people may believe he's a little cocky. That could end up rubbing some fans the wrong way especially if he starts talking early.
 
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We got Randy Moss for that. We also have Vernon Davis. Plus, just because Hill is 6'4" doesn't necessarily mean he's gonna be a potent redzone WR. Jenkins is a more complete WR, and is more ready.

i'll take the more complete WR, thats what we need 2013 and beyond.

no WR on this team is guaranteed of making the final roster, except AJ Jenkins. we may still go with five WR's, who knows?
 

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I think Kyle Williams is the one they may end up getting cut at this point.

Disagree. He was showing real promise as a WR during the year. Don't let the giants game mislead you to believe he sucks. If we keep 6 he will battle with ginn/late draft pick/ UDFA. I think he makes it as 5 or 6 WR.
 

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i'll take the more complete WR, thats what we need 2013 and beyond.

no WR on this team is guaranteed of making the final roster, except AJ Jenkins. we may still go with five WR's, who knows?

I think Mario Manningham is also guaranteed to make the roster.
 

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Jenkins Crabtree and manningham are guaranteed I think
 

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Hate to break it to those of you who are already celebrating his departure, but I don't think Crabtree is going anywhere.

Crabtree may be staying but not necessarily because of his talent - his contract has become a "cheaper to keep her' situation. Although it was rather funny the way the guys at NFLN studios said he was now the third best receiver on the team.
 

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Crabtree may be staying but not necessarily because of his talent - his contract has become a "cheaper to keep her' situation. Although it was rather funny the way the guys at NFLN studios said he was now the third best receiver on the team.

Is Moss or Manningham injured? How is Crabtree the third best receiver on the team? If you count RB's and TE's as pass catchers, Crabtree is an afterthought.

Am I missing something here? Crabtree hasn't demonstrated much since he was drafted. Granted, his QB situation ain't the best, but still. He was a first round pick who has played about as well as Stokes.

In fact, let me check their stats...
 

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Alright, I have to throw this out here, and I apologize for temporarily derailing the thread. Is anybody else totally inundated with moths right now? Last night I had so many moths on the ceiling of my living room I felt like I was in a scene from Alfred Hitchcock's "The Birds." I thought I was being stalked.

Is anybody else dealing with this BS right now?

ughhhh yes, I feel your pain. If you want to reduce their population take a drive down highway 313 by Sandia Lake, it will leave your car stained with thousands of little moth brains. I see way more birds swooping over my car lately, they must be feasting. There is at least 30-40 big ones chilling around my lights at all times.
 

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We got Randy Moss for that. We also have Vernon Davis. Plus, just because Hill is 6'4" doesn't necessarily mean he's gonna be a potent redzone WR. Jenkins is a more complete WR, and is more ready.

I'm not very optimistic about Randy...

You're right, but Hill also has a 39.5 inch vertical & I've heard he has pretty long arms even for a 6'4 guy (don't know the measurements though). That's usually pretty hard to cover in the end zone unless the guy's completely uncoordinated.
 

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Why Crabtree?

I think he is still a solid WR. May not be the number 1 guy we hoped he could be but he is not horrible. Jenkins new 1st rounder automatic unless he craps the bed. Manningham is good enough like crabs to be a lock. Moss is an unknown and williams ginn got some work to do more do ginn then Williams.
 

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i will say this.... i smell some Woods out here..... cant say i'm feeling this at all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

but i am obligated to fall in trust with Baalke....

fuckin A... getting cocky thats for sure.
 

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In their first three years (Stokes first, then Crabtree):

Games: 34/48
Receptions: 114/175
Yards: 1499/2240
Yards per Reception. 13.33/12.8
TD's: 8/12
Receptions per game: 3.3/4.2
Yards per game: 43.47/53.3

Keep in mind that Stokes was injured in his second season, and played in only 6 games. Extrapolated at their per game numbers, these are essentially the same player.

Why exactly isn't Crabtree expendable?
 
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