8/13 GDT ChiSox @ Peavys

[Stokes1931]

Dogs lose to the Choppers.

Puiggy wears Sombrero de Oro

 

[calsnowskier]

Wow.

That s a great shot.

That actually looks like the call from the replay umps was PERFECT. There was no way Blanco could get to the plate without blowing Flowers up. And tat is the point if the rule.

Much less questionable than I thought.

 

[Stokes1931]

For you, Cal.

 

[Band of Brothers]

Wow.

That s a great shot.

That actually looks like the call from the replay umps was PERFECT. There was no way Blanco could get to the plate without blowing Flowers up. And tat is the point if the rule.

Much less questionable than I thought.

Blanco is clearly about 2 more feet back on that shot. He was out by a mile and it's not even close. The spirit of the game has been crushed. This must be changed pronto and I mean pronto.

If a playoff game or spot in the playoffs is decided by a play like this it will be the utmost of travesties.

 

[Stokes1931]

Blanco is clearly about 2 more feet back on that shot. He was out by a mile and it's not even close. The spirit of the game has been crushed. This must be changed pronto and I mean pronto.

If a playoff game or spot in the playoffs is decided by a play like this it will be the utmost of travesties.

Yes, Blanco is out by a mile (or about 10 feet), but Flowers has violated the letter of the law by blocking the plate.

They won't change it during the season, get used to it for now.

I wonder how many of these calls using the new rule have been reviewed this season. Anyone know?

 

[msgkings322]

Blanco is clearly about 2 more feet back on that shot. He was out by a mile and it's not even close. The spirit of the game has been crushed. This must be changed pronto and I mean pronto.

If a playoff game or spot in the playoffs is decided by a play like this it will be the utmost of travesties.

It will definitely lead to the destruction of America.

 

[MarcoPolo]

Reason number 456,937 BoB is not an MLB manager...

I think you you are very, very low with that number.

 

[msgkings322]

Yes, Blanco is out by a mile (or about 10 feet), but Flowers has violated the letter of the law by blocking the plate.

They won't change it during the season, get used to it for now.

I wonder how many of these calls using the new rule have been reviewed this season. Anyone know?

I wonder how they could improve the rule without getting rid of the idea of protecting the catcher.

Maybe if a guy is that far from the plate when the ball arrives, I dunno, automatic out? What happens at 2B? A guy tries to steal second, the catcher guns it right there and let's say the runner is 4 feet away...he just slides in and he's out by a mile if the tag is applied. He doesn't blow up the second baseman....and the second baseman is allowed to block the bag...

 

[MarcoPolo]

I went out to teach a kid in the neighborhood to drive. His parents won't let him drive. He's had a permit for a year, driving test Friday, and he has less than 10 hours behind thd wheel. Glad i left in time for some runs to score. I am actually quite fond of Giants wins. Like i am fond of winning the lottery.

Oh, and BoB, it is "have" not "of". I would have, not would of.

If he's under 18, somebody (a legal guardian) has to sign an affidavit that the kid has 50 hours of driving practice. Will his parents do that?

 

[Stokes1931]

If he's under 18, somebody (a legal guardian) has to sign an affidavit that the kid has 50 hours of driving practice. Will his parents do that?

He is 23 and just finished at the local community college. His family life is a bit, well, bizarre, very fringy home schooling and the like. He has been volunteering at church running some of our video and tech stuff, so I felt like I owed him.

I was trained as a bus driver, and once took a course from the CHP which was awesome. Except for the 54 passenger bus on wet pavement.

He's a good kid. I really hope he doesn't pass, though, he is way too inexperienced to be driving, even if it is the valley. There are some crazies here in the valley. I thought LA was bad (and it is), but there are bad drivers all over.

 

[Band of Brothers]

If they are going to have umps in NY every name should be listed and pictures of them on the big screen before and during the game. It's not fair that umps don't have to take any heat at all back in NY while lame duck umps take the heat back in the park and do have their names listed. I want to know which assholes are making these calls so I have a chance to identify them by name and picture. It's a freaking free ride from responsibility in NY. Every umps name should be listed in deciding a ballgame period.

Put the game back in the games real umpires back at the location of the game. This kind of umpiring in NY is ...A big cluster fuck.

 

[tzill]

Wow.

That s a great shot.

That actually looks like the call from the replay umps was PERFECT. There was no way Blanco could get to the plate without blowing Flowers up. And tat is the point if the rule.

Much less questionable than I thought.

Let me wiegh in from Portugal....we went over this when the rule was proposed. The rule book has ALWAYS forbidden contact at home plate. It was not enforced for almost 100 years, but it's always been illegal. If the catcher has the ball, running into him is interference and the runner is out. If he doesn't have the ball, it's obstuction and the runner is safe. We actually didn't need a "new" rule to protect the catcher, we simply needed to enforce the ones on the books.

By analogy, a runner cannot blow up the first basemen on a bang/bang play. Yet, for some bizarre reason, doing the same thing to a catcher is "manly." It's horseshit and the "new" rule was long overdue.

Anyone who looks at it differently likely would prefer the earth be flat and baseball not allow "those colored boys."

Off to Ireland...

 

[MarcoPolo]

Speaking of rules not being enforced, for some reason, I've been getting pissed all season when a guy runs to first inside the baseline during the last 40 feet or so. The rules clearly call out the lane the runner is supposed to use, but so many players run with AT LEAST one foot inside the baseline - and some run with BOTH feet inside the baseline.

I really wish a catcher would have the balls to plunk the guy in the back/shoulder on the throw to first and then ask the ump to call interference. (The only penalty that can be called is if the runner interferes with the play.)

6.05 A batter is out when— {...}
(k) In running the last half of the distance from home base to first base, while the ball is being fielded to first base, he runs outside (to the right of) the three-foot line, or inside (to the left of) the foul line, and in the umpire’s judgment in so doing interferes with the fielder taking the throw at first base, in which case the ball is dead; except that he may run outside (to the right of) the three-foot line or inside (to the left of) the foul line to avoid a fielder attempting to field a batted ball


I would sooooo love to see Buster nail a guy running inside the line to first.

Oh, and tzill : por que você está em Portugal?

 

[MarcoPolo]

Let me wiegh in from Portugal....we went over this when the rule was proposed. The rule book has ALWAYS forbidden contact at home plate. It was not enforced for almost 100 years, but it's always been illegal. If the catcher has the ball, running into him is interference and the runner is out. If he doesn't have the ball, it's obstuction and the runner is safe. We actually didn't need a "new" rule to protect the catcher, we simply needed to enforce the ones on the books.

By analogy, a runner cannot blow up the first basemen on a bang/bang play. Yet, for some bizarre reason, doing the same thing to a catcher is "manly." It's horseshit and the "new" rule was long overdue.

Anyone who looks at it differently likely would prefer the earth be flat and baseball not allow "those colored boys."

Off to Ireland...

Oh, and (if you like stout) make sure to get a pint of gravity-pulled Guiness while you are in Eire. It is *nothing* like the crap they ship to the U.S. Of course, once you do that, you'll realize what crap they serve over here and so it might not be worth it to drink the real thing ...

 

[tzill]

Speaking of rules not being enforced, for some reason, I've been getting pissed all season when a guy runs to first inside the baseline during the last 40 feet or so. The rules clearly call out the lane the runner is supposed to use, but so many players run with AT LEAST one foot inside the baseline - and some run with BOTH feet inside the baseline.

I really wish a catcher would have the balls to plunk the guy in the back/shoulder on the throw to first and then ask the ump to call interference. (The only penalty that can be called is if the runner interferes with the play.)

6.05 A batter is out when— {...}
(k) In running the last half of the distance from home base to first base, while the ball is being fielded to first base, he runs outside (to the right of) the three-foot line, or inside (to the left of) the foul line, and in the umpire’s judgment in so doing interferes with the fielder taking the throw at first base, in which case the ball is dead; except that he may run outside (to the right of) the three-foot line or inside (to the left of) the foul line to avoid a fielder attempting to field a batted ball


I would sooooo love to see Buster nail a guy running inside the line to first.

Oh, and tzill : por que você está em Portugal?

Could not agree more; there are perfectly good rules in place that go unenforced. That's another.

We are on vacation; rumor has it I wanted to be several thousand miles away from the Gigantes.

:rollseyes:

 

[tzill]

Oh, and (if you like stout) make sure to get a pint of gravity-pulled Guiness while you are in Eire. It is *nothing* like the crap they ship to the U.S. Of course, once you do that, you'll realize what crap they serve over here and so it might not be worth it to drink the real thing ...

Taking a tour of the Guiness plant while there; much mothers milk will be consumed. Flying into Dublin, and heading south to Cork and the rest of the Dingle peninsula.

Going to try and find something Jewish to see there besides my (hot) wife.

 

[msgkings322]

Taking a tour of the Guiness plant while there; much mothers milk will be consumed. Flying into Dublin, and heading south to Cork and the rest of the Dingle peninsula.

Going to try and find something Jewish to see there besides my (hot) wife.

Well, there's plenty of corned beef and guilt in Ireland...

Glad you're not gone for good!

 

[msgkings322]

The national press begins to weigh in:

Collision rule remains controversial, murky - SweetSpot Blog - ESPN

 

[llemon]

I want to hear from guys like Fisk and Bench.

They're on the rules committee?

They pay the salaries of injured catchers?

 

[llemon]

[/B]
Did you really type that without thinking: "Ummm, maybe I am going a little overboard here?" lol

Maybe not a Giants catcher but someone might get blown up soon because of this stupid rule and and how tender it is. Someone might just say fuck it I am going in hard.[/QUOTE]

If it happens anytime soon, that player will be suspended for the rest of the season.

And why would a runner go in hard? You saw how softly Blanco scored the tying run.